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Reply · Not Registered · 07 Apr 2014 20:30
Happy to make the post Zari! So true Franky! Haha you are too right RM8, even though it was built in Taiwan the team were extremely secretive during its production for fear that it would be shut down, it was only made public once it was completed. Thanks for the ideas Zari, however, as noble as it seems to do such things I don't believe it would make all that much of a difference to be honest, I imagine most beautiful pictures on a public wall would be classed as vandalism and quickly taken care of, (They can't have the masses questioning why our world isn't already as such, now can they?) and as for the loudspeaker idea, it would wake up some folk, the rest would most likely think your crazy. I think it would also quickly bring unwanted attention in the form of police.
I know that it all starts with talking to people and getting the information out, but I would much rather find a way to cut straight to the point and actually make the change, however futile it may seem.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
Michael.
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Reply · Not Registered · 07 Apr 2014 17:20
Did anyone see that program the other week dead famous DNA where a man was claiming to have part of AH & EBs rub bone that he had acquired from an ex KGB agent? Funny how they couldn't get a Lab to test them. The poor guy doing the show was very gullible & paid obscene money for parts of people just by what the person selling was telling him to be true.
The Elvis Hair was pretty interesting when the DNA results came back though.

RM8
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Reply · Not Registered · 07 Apr 2014 17:19
Good job that wasn't built in this country or they'd be shut down faster than you can say Quantum Energy Generator. I know 2 different people one who invented a free heating system he tried all sorts for funding and got laughed out the door everywhere then paid off & shut down. Another man who got very Rich running a car on Sea Water but unfortunately not by selling his cars but for his silence. It's shocking how we get held back like this. Imagine what a world we would live in without War & with all the vaccines & cures we know is out there.

RM8
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Reply · Not Registered · 07 Apr 2014 16:08
Here is the first link that I found on FTW's (Fix The World) QEG for those interested:
http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

Thank you for posting this Michael.
As for wanting to reach people and share information to accelerate others rise in consciousness, everybody does their part according to their strengths.
Pick up a loudspeaker and exercise your right to free speech, paint a beautiful picture on an ugly public wall projecting how you think the world could be or let your heart, imagination and logic guide you to your own individual path.
zari
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Reply · frankyscouser · 07 Apr 2014 15:22
Yeah for instance the fracking demonstrations in manchester now, if more people stood with them it hinders them, together we stand divided we fall, simple quote but so so very true.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 07 Apr 2014 13:53
The awakening up process is a bit like a virus, it starts small then gradually it on expands, that's why I find important to share any info other people might find wacky on social network sites, all it takes is one person to read a document and the virus grows.

knowledge is power.
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Reply · Jack! · 07 Apr 2014 12:47
Cheers for the reply lads. Yeah Ryan I was aware that the skull was tested and found to be neither of theres. This kinda stuff makes things really difficult for me personally though. I mean can we believe anything we are told or have been told previously? Even people like us who visit sites like this and share stories and information, at the end of the day we know very little and quite possibly a lot less than we think. And we are the ones who have 'woken up' so I can only imagine how much the general population knows. Quite disappointing to feel this helpless about things.
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Reply · Not Registered · 07 Apr 2014 11:46
Jack, there is a lot of evidence that he escaped in 1945 and lived until 1962 in Argentina. If you read the 'The Grey Wolf', you can see for yourself that there are numerous eye witnesses. It doesn't prove anything, but there is no proof he died in 1945 either. I'm sure you know the skull the Russians have had all these years is neither of Hitler or Eva Braun. DNA analysis has proven that much.

Ryan.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 07 Apr 2014 11:12
It might be mate but if I wanted to blank out key words in secret documents then I would hide the name, I think its dissinfo on that particular document but I am not ruling out hitler never escaped.
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Reply · spudv · 06 Apr 2014 04:12
Cheers for the link Franky, I'll take a look at his site.
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Reply · Not Registered · 04 Apr 2014 22:03
04 Apr 2014 22:45:27
Yes you also have the 50 year and 100 year rule for the really secret stuff.

Alas I am unable to name names but I do have a quiet chuckle when I see certain names.

Kim Philby
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Reply · frankyscouser · 04 Apr 2014 19:23
I would be guessing if I just named random names but let's just say I genuinely think there are top politicians of that time and royalty, around the time of the KP scandal you had the profumo affair which involved the Secretary of State for War so as kim said it was rife with soviet spies and why I think the monarchy had spies is simple, the Declassification files usually get disclosed every 25 years this case is over 50 years now and its something the establishment do no want to get out.
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Reply · Not Registered · 04 Apr 2014 15:57
04 Apr 2014 16:51:45
Of course he was expendable, we all are. Just pawns in a giant relentless chess game.

And its highly likely he was allowed to defect to avoid a publically humiliating trial, which would have resulted in certain things coming to light including names. You British can't face a scandal.

The files are still hidden to protect various names. Some are still alive but are fairly doddery.

As I said some of the names are fairly surprising.

Kim Philby
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Reply · frankyscouser · 04 Apr 2014 14:53
Kim he was a spy at the end of the day but there is no doubt in my mind he was expendable and whether he was allowed to escape I would not know, its the secret files that interest me more, if it was more on KP then why not release them to the public?the establishment need someone to take the blame but I get the impression people way higher than philliby are the real culprits hence why files are still not disclosed.
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Reply · Not Registered · 04 Apr 2014 14:08
04 Apr 2014 14:58:08
Franky bear in mind he spent almost 30 years as an agent and only under suspicion for a small part of that time. I'm not saying he was some sort of super spy and I do think you British have over cooked the pudding a little to give the excuse you were duped by a brilliant master. But it was a good run. You also have to bear in mind just how throughly the kgb had penetrated the British establishment and the magnificent 5 were held up to younger generations as the pinnacle. Although I agree that film was a joke, everytime he lied he smiled afterwards. Bit of an easy tell. If you really are using that as training footage I hope its on how not to do it.

As I said last night you never hear anything about the other major ring active at the time, the Oxford ring. On my first trip to London I was amazed at some of the people we were getting Intel from. And some of who I recruited as well, well I don't think those names will be out anytime soon.

Kim Philby
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Reply · Not Registered · 04 Apr 2014 13:48
I can come up with three possible explanations Ryan:
No knowledge of astronomy
Disconnection from nature
No knowledge of myth

It's the same answer to the question of, why do we celebrate the winter solstice, Samhain eve and most other saturnian/luciferian days?
zari
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Reply · Not Registered · 04 Apr 2014 13:30
Conditioning makes people regard establishment propaganda as reality.
How would those people then, be able to realize that they are in the presence of a genius?

The majority of them would be dismissive due to their amplified insecurities, while the rest would immediately label the unusual (extraordinary) as lunacy.
To recognize a genius one needs to be a genius.
Otherwise, we are only talking about establishment endorsed authority figures.

Subjectivity aside, technology has evolved to the point that to cross from theory to practice one needs capital backing.
With myth as teacher, advanced intelligence and vast resources are rarely concentrated on the same vessel.
Internal and external wealth are probably mutually exclusive.
zari
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Reply · frankyscouser · 04 Apr 2014 13:09
KP was a traitor in the sense he gave information to Moscow there is no question about that but at the same time the amount of lives he had is absolutely astonishing.

some things I found out about KP late last night by a twitter friend who was a top barrister a few years ago and has interesting stories about various subjects, I will quote what he typed, (like I said I do not know enough about the feller)

ian
Kim Philby: Ben Macintyre saying how plausible Philby was. The film of him denying guilt showed someone only an person would trust

me
i watched the philby documentary, what's your take on him?

ian
As a person? I think he secretly hated his own background, which was mixed. Mother Anglo-Indian, father a maverick pro-Arab.

me
do you think he was a scapegoat?even in the doc there was nothing concrete and files still classified.

ian
Scapegoat? Philby was, if you like, a traitor, in the ordinary usage, but it has suited both sides to make him out to be "brilliant"

me
2 me the bbc making out that KP was this great spy is ridiculous. why not look @ like jeremy thorpe? or is that 2 sensitive considering he is first cousin of the queen.

ian
If Kim Philby was great spy and even great mind, then that validates NKVD/KGB and excuses SIS/MI6 and the Security Service/MI5.
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