19 Mar 2014 23:32:12
The majority are Chinese, they are not that sentimental. And if you wanted just one person you'd grab them on their own, not in transit on a plane with hundreds of others it draws too much attention. Its called a secret service for a reason. Even the Americans can't be that arrogant or reckless. Hmmm actually they could. I lean more towards the idea of something on the plane.
Kim Philby
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Ed033 the amount of dis-info coming out is a very strong indicator as you suggested previously. One report had the aircraft descending to 25,000 feet from a cruise altitude of 41,000 feet after it turned 90 degrees left, but without the transponder it would only be possible to identify position.
Another report says residents of the Maldives heard a low flying airliner around 6. 15am. This is perfect if you want everyone to believe it landed at Diego Garcia. And it also suggests that only an organisation (government?) with enormous resources could invest in this level of deception, as it's likely to be a decoy aircraft.
What's your take on it so far Ed033?
Ryan.
Read discussionAnother report says residents of the Maldives heard a low flying airliner around 6. 15am. This is perfect if you want everyone to believe it landed at Diego Garcia. And it also suggests that only an organisation (government?) with enormous resources could invest in this level of deception, as it's likely to be a decoy aircraft.
What's your take on it so far Ed033?
Ryan.
19 Mar 2014 22:57:58
But for what reason is the big question. What do they want with an airliner and almost 300 people.
Kim Philby
Read discussionBut for what reason is the big question. What do they want with an airliner and almost 300 people.
Kim Philby
Wow I like your theory as well as a few others tiger this plane's dissapearense "spelling" is really starting to whet the appetite more and more. cool.
Read discussion19 Mar 2014 22:20:37
1 in the cockpit, 1 cabin crew, 1-2 in the ground crew, minimum needed. Maybe someone in the tower, someone to clear and dispose of the ground crew, a clean up team to cleanse the flight crews homes of anything incriminating, and the staff on the base you fly it to. Takes time to plan, and money.
Kim Philby
Read discussion1 in the cockpit, 1 cabin crew, 1-2 in the ground crew, minimum needed. Maybe someone in the tower, someone to clear and dispose of the ground crew, a clean up team to cleanse the flight crews homes of anything incriminating, and the staff on the base you fly it to. Takes time to plan, and money.
Kim Philby
Nice one kim I didn't think of in that way also yourself ryan cheers guys.
Read discussion19 Mar 2014 22:54:37
Hmm not sure what I would be cross between. Undercover is hard work. But fun ;) o the stories I could tell haha.
Kim Philby
Read discussionHmm not sure what I would be cross between. Undercover is hard work. But fun ;) o the stories I could tell haha.
Kim Philby
19 Mar 2014 22:44:09
Well you learn something new all the time.
Thank you.
Kim Philby
Read discussionWell you learn something new all the time.
Thank you.
Kim Philby
Bep
The Ram Air Turbine which will give basic electrical and hydraulic power in the event of an electrical failure.
All pilots are trained on how to fly the plane in the event of an electrical failure, and then some.
Ryan.
Read discussionThe Ram Air Turbine which will give basic electrical and hydraulic power in the event of an electrical failure.
All pilots are trained on how to fly the plane in the event of an electrical failure, and then some.
Ryan.
I find it hard to believe, that in this day and age they can lose track of an aeroplane, even cheap cars come with trackers, something very fishy about it.
Read discussionI'll be great undercover Kim. A cross between Father Dougal and Johnny English :)
Ryan.
Read discussionRyan.
19 Mar 2014 22:12:16
Certainly not! If the editors will permit, I spent time working in London when Gordievsky was resident. When he defected everyone that had worked with him was pulled in and grilled. Did we know anything, did we suspect anything, why had we not reported any suspicions, on and on, scary as you knew one slip would be enough to condemn you, couldn't let the nerves show, then its why are you nervous comrade what are you hiding. Paranoid. Then they start picking apart everything you've done in connection, going over past operations, people you've had contact with. Stuff you've done under orders! Of course there's no such thing as trust in that world.
Kim Philby
Read discussionCertainly not! If the editors will permit, I spent time working in London when Gordievsky was resident. When he defected everyone that had worked with him was pulled in and grilled. Did we know anything, did we suspect anything, why had we not reported any suspicions, on and on, scary as you knew one slip would be enough to condemn you, couldn't let the nerves show, then its why are you nervous comrade what are you hiding. Paranoid. Then they start picking apart everything you've done in connection, going over past operations, people you've had contact with. Stuff you've done under orders! Of course there's no such thing as trust in that world.
Kim Philby
19 Mar 2014 21:10:04
Had to use google but thanks ed. British fair play eh.
Kim Philby
Read discussionHad to use google but thanks ed. British fair play eh.
Kim Philby
Ed- if there was an electrical fire in the communications system all contact would be lost! Bep.
Read discussionUnless both pilots were dead they would have chosen one of the following transponder settings.
75 - I'm staying alive (7500 Hijack)
76 - I'm in a fix (7600 Radio Failure)
77 - I'm going to heaven (7700 Mayday)
The captain has 20,000 hours. The transponder was switched off. He wouldn't do that unless he quite literally had a gun to his head. The pilots have oxygen masks so I find the overcome by smoke theory odd.
Ryan.
Read discussion75 - I'm staying alive (7500 Hijack)
76 - I'm in a fix (7600 Radio Failure)
77 - I'm going to heaven (7700 Mayday)
The captain has 20,000 hours. The transponder was switched off. He wouldn't do that unless he quite literally had a gun to his head. The pilots have oxygen masks so I find the overcome by smoke theory odd.
Ryan.
19 Mar 2014 20:11:51
Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 was in trouble and simply heading for the nearest safe airport when it turned off-course, according to a veteran pilot who predicts, in a viral online post, that the wreckage will be discovered somewhere west of the Maldives.
Chris Goodfellow, a Canadian pilot with 20 years experience, has hailed captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah a hero, not a hijacker, in his fascinating explanation, which claims to debunks all theories about the fate of the missing jet.
He insists the only reasonable scenario is that a fire broke out aboard the plane and Shah was doing exactly what he needed to do in an emergency - get the plane to the nearest airport as soon as possible.
In this case, that was the 13,000 foot strip Palau Langkawi, and that is directly where the aircraft was heading when it was last tracked. However, Goodfellow believes the crew were overcome by smoke and the aircraft flew as a 'ghost plane' for hours past the chosen airport before finally crashing into the Indian ocean.
Bep Kororoti
Read discussionMalaysian Airlines Flight 370 was in trouble and simply heading for the nearest safe airport when it turned off-course, according to a veteran pilot who predicts, in a viral online post, that the wreckage will be discovered somewhere west of the Maldives.
Chris Goodfellow, a Canadian pilot with 20 years experience, has hailed captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah a hero, not a hijacker, in his fascinating explanation, which claims to debunks all theories about the fate of the missing jet.
He insists the only reasonable scenario is that a fire broke out aboard the plane and Shah was doing exactly what he needed to do in an emergency - get the plane to the nearest airport as soon as possible.
In this case, that was the 13,000 foot strip Palau Langkawi, and that is directly where the aircraft was heading when it was last tracked. However, Goodfellow believes the crew were overcome by smoke and the aircraft flew as a 'ghost plane' for hours past the chosen airport before finally crashing into the Indian ocean.
Bep Kororoti
There is one country that has extensive experience with tried and tested methods for the disposal of people in real world and or faked flights.
As hinted at earlier, It would have to be a very powerful force that could effect the necessary modifications so that a plane could disappear, kill all of its passengers (maybe) and land intact elsewhere (then deal with the passengers and crew). Any such scenario would need massive pre-planned ground support and would not be reliant on a pilot with political links and issues or a few bods boarding with stolen passport. however, they are a neat distraction.
I feel odd saying this, but the longer this goes on without finding wreckage or bodies the alternatives are worse. i'm not entirely sure that makes sense. eh?
Eric
Read discussionAs hinted at earlier, It would have to be a very powerful force that could effect the necessary modifications so that a plane could disappear, kill all of its passengers (maybe) and land intact elsewhere (then deal with the passengers and crew). Any such scenario would need massive pre-planned ground support and would not be reliant on a pilot with political links and issues or a few bods boarding with stolen passport. however, they are a neat distraction.
I feel odd saying this, but the longer this goes on without finding wreckage or bodies the alternatives are worse. i'm not entirely sure that makes sense. eh?
Eric
19 Mar 2014 19:32:12
I best you have some interesting stories KP. If you don't mind me asking, what did you get summoned back to Moscow for? Not nicking party funds eh?
Read discussionI best you have some interesting stories KP. If you don't mind me asking, what did you get summoned back to Moscow for? Not nicking party funds eh?
Anything is possible, certainly your theory.
Supasub
Read discussionSupasub
19 Mar 2014 18:08:09
Ryan I think we should go freelance haha.
Kim Philby
Read discussionRyan I think we should go freelance haha.
Kim Philby