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Red81, when there are no alternatives why shouldn't one default on their debt?
There are no limitations to loan interest and fees charged anymore, so when one has payed twice the borrowed initial capital, why should they keep paying?
Debt is the means through which the establishment rationalizes slavery.

What follows may sound harsh but is not intended as judgment, simply as advice.
I believe one should inform themselves before attempting to fault anyone for something that cannot have been their fault. No one should fall for the establishment's divide and conquer policies.
Blaming our brothers and sisters for the outcome of a conspiracy they had no hand in, means we will not learn from our experiences and that we will most likely have to repeat them.
zari

Its far from people like Franky that got your country into the mess its in, its the system of banking and the social system that is pushed upon us that allows people to become in a position of debt in the first place. Why in the world are people allowed to borrow money they don't have? It only serves to have people in a position where they MUST work, which means they must ay tax, in order to pay off the debt they've accumulated.

Its a very narrow minded view to blame the individual, when in a system where profit is praised, debt is a neccisity. As you can't have profit without debt. If you abolish profit, you'll also find debt abolished. If you keep a system of profit, you're keeping a system of debt.

Melbourne CFC

If it's money they are after anon, I could create an unlimited liability bond as I am human and use it as collateral to issue debt securities (currency) to pay them with. I already have a printer and paper.
zari

Frank, I can't believe you are boasting and advising people to go bankrupt. Declaring yourself bankrupt is the last resort, however it's nothing to brag about. You purchased the goods, you got yourself in debt, you pay it off. Why should someone else pay it for you. It's people like you that has got this country in financial trouble. Be warned, those that are thinking of doing this, although it comes off your credit file in six years, banks can always see this and getting a mortgage will be a nightmare. The same goes for Iva

Absolutely. There's no money in that though.

Regarding water and its characteristics, it is interesting to note that impacting water at high speeds is similar to impacting solid concrete.
This is observed in record height dives, bullet penetration of water (smaller calibers penetrate deeper) and the fact that a lot of modern military bases are built underwater.
I imagine this is due to liquid's kinetic energy absorption capabilities and the following transformation of those energies into increased atomic electromagnetic charge, which strengthens atomic, and in extension molecular, bonds.
zari

Imagine if they used that ingenuity for purposes that would benefit all of humanity.
zari

No worries mate.

Thank you franky. I'll go through it and get back to you if I have any questions.
zari

Cheers ed! Of course it was me being a wally

Brilliant stuff Ed, just a quick question, does the UK legislation bits be the same in Ireland or should I use the second two? Cheers, Garbo

Its three posts down Franky. Thanks for sharing

Melbourne CFC

No worries edd it is posted.

I posted a reply to zari and everyone 1 interested in bankruptcy yesterday edd, any ideas if you received it?

i can not speak for people who have a mortgage but imo the c.a.b is the best place for advice, that is where me and the mrs got advice, basically if you are struggling with bills credit cards/car payments/bank arrears etc etc and its over 6k you owe you can declare yourself bankrupt, you pay £400 pound (six years ago) pretty straight forward we went to the c.a.b gave them a list of creditors that we were in debt with and could not pay back, the c.a.b done the rest, one thing if you owe bank arrears it is advised to change banks and just get a current account with no overdraft a example the cooperative, you turn up to court and basically hand over your papers and pay the money, it can take up to six years to get your credit rating back but i personally know a person who was getting offered credit cards six months later, a tip if you have a credit card that you are arrears in, you can actually pay your mortgage costs £400 then you do not have to pay it back because you are bankrupt, (we sort of got a wink of the legal aid c.a.b adviser to do it/) my wife worked and was on a pretty good wage but we decided to declare ourselfs bankrupt and it was the best thing we done and it is not as scary as it sounds but seek the help of the c.a.b there is another route you can go if you do not want to go bankrupt and that is debt relief order which never really suited us, hope this helps?


http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0084-debt-relief-or-bankruptcy

That is possible zari, another possibility was they were in a mk ultra program, I done a bit of research a few years ago and its near impossible to find anything about them apart from a school in a small town in Sweden that they went to, one of the twins lives in america now but its very hard to find out anything about her, conclusion who knows? but its not normal.

There are various terms that express the same meaning but are used in different areas of law (admiralty, criminal, business etc. ). The ideal scenario would be to familiarize ones self with all of them and use all of them when making ones case, as noone knows what area of law the public servant/public officer/government agent/government employee/public trustee posing as judge is thinking in.

Having said that, most of the people dealing with these issues advise others to never visit court, as courts are for legal persons. As an example, Dean Clifford suggests submitting relevant documents making ones claim to the proper branch of corporate government, before a case is brought against them.

It is never easy to reason with somebody when they are treating you with hostility and believe are justified in doing so.
Zari

Hey franky, I think I have an explanation for what happened in this case.

New drugs are not discovered in blood tests, as the tests are not calibrated to look for them. This holds true for new doping agents that cannot be discovered until proper research has been conducted into them.
What they should have been searching for instead is lowered or increased hormone secretions, as these would provide evidence of the presence of mind altering substances.

The twins behavior, what appears as temporary psychosis, is similar to the effects of prolonged exposure to mind altering substances. Being under the influence of such substances for longer than 12 hours usually results in temporary paranoia.
What if they were given doses that would keep them high for months?
From their few recorded statements "I know who you are, you are not police. ", "They are going to steal our organs. " etc. that would be a logical appraisal of the situation.
Additionally, considering their spontaneous relapses into a paranoid state and the witnessed suppression of that state after the administration of sedatives, this points to exposure to such substances in the first instance and partial drug canceling in the second one.

The most interesting statements that could be used to support this case however, are those right before the murder.
She took back the cigarettes she offered the two guys saying "They could be poisoned. ". Then while he was preparing lunch for her she stabbed him, which could have something to do with her fear of being poisoned (again). In the same way some substances (sedatives) suppress the mind altering effects of the mind altering substances, others amplify them.
Caffeine, nicotine, cyanobalamins (red grapes) etc. act as MAOI's (monoamine oxidase inhibitors) which reactivate already ingested mind altering substances, e. g. Ayawasca.
Making the paranoid prone (prolonged exposed) to think they have been "re-poisoned".


In conclusion I would speculate they were slipped massive doses of mind altering substances which would explain their odd behavior, increased strength and peculiar statements.
This probably sounds as a far fetched scenario but I personally know someone who went through such an experience, behaved in the same way more or less (without the murder), made the same bizarre statements (fear of being poisoned) and returned to his previous "normal" state a few months later.
Zari

I've been watching a lot of these lately. This bloke is the only one to get away with the claim. All others have ended up having to pay the fines, some even have had to spend time inside. It seems quite hard to claim sovereignty

Melbourne CFC

Thank you for your answer ed033. That is a brilliant idea. As always you are very helpful and greatly appreciated.
By the way, is there a way to make the links you provided Melbourne CFC visible for others or are they visible and it's just my pc? I could definitely use those documents.
Zari