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Shaun although I agree with you, don't force you opinions as fact.

Oh it's just coincidence! Just another pebble on Mount Coincidence, that formidable peak. pea

I have not read the book you mention but personally, I am not too fussed with what the church says and does.
Like all organized religions, it exists to extract money and instill fear. Its reading material includes, adaptations of previously written historical accounts, stolen scientific symbolism, fictional stories that attempt to impart morality (allegories) and plenty of nonsense.
All these are combined in such a way, so as to confuse to the point where one would proclaim that ignorance is bliss.

Sort of irrelevant but:
Lucifer = Luc (Read as lus, Latin for light) and Fero (Greek for bringer/carrier).
Why would the creator (->god|dog

11 Dec 2013 09:09:48
One word = B. U. L. L. S. H. I. *.

God is not real, and either is the devil or whatever

We was made by a superior race

Shaun

Welcome, It's intriguing but I think the lucifer bit applies to a piece of equipment used by the telescope which was Russian built and named by the Russians. I must admit though that the lucifer bit is contained in the very long name of the telescope at a stretch.

Supasub

The EU has no corruption. EU corruption is legitimized.
The above statement is a sarcastic one. It was an attempt at hinting at the corruptness existing throughout EU ranks, to the point it appears as if corruption in the EU has been legitimized.
Zari

10 Dec 2013 17:05:20
Think you should read that again and try and wrap your mind around it. pea

"The EU has no corruption, it is all legitimised".

I may have misunderstood this phrase too. I thought Zari was just being deeply sarcastic, or at the very least tongue in cheek?

You could easily interchange EU with USA. and that sentence works equally well.

Ryan.

How can you honestly say that the EU has no corruption! Must be the most evil corrupt institution going, with a mission statement of forcing the One a World Government through.

The EU has no corruption, it is all legitimized. The ways I can explain people wanting in the EU after observing the current state of EU states is:
1)A gifted demagogue is being paid to rally the masses.
2)People prefer to be controlled by foreign, rather than domestic, puppets.
3)They are planning for a mass exodus from their country.

When did reality change through cosmetic modifications?
Zari

Its all part of the de-stabilization of the West. Then loudest speaking groups with regards to opposing this, are the white nationalists who are racist, therefore hold no credibility with the average and reasonable European. The way to battle this is for Joe average to stop being a wilting "pansy" to the PC brigade. You don't have to be racist to notice certain racial and or religious demographics "act" in certain ways. All the stars are pretty much aligning for the NWO and we have no understanding of the system they are using (sheeple)

Thanks for your responses guys, I see exactly what your saying Zari and it makes perfect sense. Thanks for the discussion

U won't see or hear about it on the national news as it's an ethnic group and when it's Muslims it's a total no go area. But if it was EDL or BNP then u could garuntee it would make the lunchtime, tea time and night time news. They people that do the patrols have been brainwashed to such an extent they are no longer able to reason with, it's a pity because it taints the whole religion.

AP

Go o a website called nesarasucks and read that. Interesting or far fetched, you decide.

08 Dec 2013 17:20:07
One word, anon; 'counterfeit'. pea

They're racists and should be punished just like the EDL racists.

Yeah I am with you unnamed poster the only thing is we have all been drawn to this site one way or another on the word conspiracy and if I was looking for info on anything sadly I would have to type conspiracy, to be honest I can not think of a better name as truth is clean cut and its hardly that clear.

Sorry anon, I agree with pea.
All labels are used against us. They are designed to keep us organized in groups and attached to group mentality. This eliminates originality and the belief in the self. We are conditioned to not stray too far from the pack.
Additionally, whenever the establishment wants to demonize a group they only have to assault the actions and beliefs of one person belonging to that group. That way anybody that can be defined as belonging to said group, is portrayed as having the same traits.
The establishment draws a lot of its power from creating groups, dividing people into them and then manipulating them. It is difficult for them to attack individuals as it is both resource and time consuming.
We are definitely entering a new level of awareness, a higher state of consciousness, but that should never be labeled as anything other than that.
Zari

You are right, people have been conditioned to react irrationally to the word conspiracy. However, we should perhaps reeducate people on the meaning of the word rather than abandon it. The simplification of language tends to oversimplify the variety of experiences one can communicate and thus have.
Whenever someone reacts negatively to the word, I make a point to mention the mafia. The existence of the mafia was initially rejected as an improbable conspiracy by the authorities, but then was proven to be real and to run a lot deeper than ever imagined.
We should reclaim our vocabulary rather than surrender it. We have made enough compromises as is.
Zari

The basis of this presentation is true. The field spoken of, is indeed the unified field.
The math however, is wrong. Splitting the circle in 9 segments is a simplification of the universal mathematical model and will not accurately emulate all effects the universe is capable of manifesting. This system, though sufficient to exhibit the transition between 3rd and 4th dimension, lacks the math to recreate the full complexity of the universe. In all likelihood, it will emit radioactivity.
The top most part of the system is not there, so they will be stuck with 4th dimensional energies. In the same way the 3 states of matter (liquid, solid, gaseous), requires the 4th state (plasma) to complete a circle with a dimension separating the 1st and 4th state, this is missing the top part.
Davinich himself said the vitruvian man was an intermediary state and that its next design, one of higher complexity, would unlock the universe. They should be splitting the circle in 12 parts to represent any given dimension and 13 for a system applicable to all dimensions, with the extra node allowing for the transition from lower to higher dimensions, or in reverse.
Zari