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They are already doing this to us aren't they?
Slow poisoning through contaminated foodstuffs and water. All artificial wave emitting machines, set to frequencies detrimental to our healths. Chemtrails covering the skies. Approved drugs that kill rather than heal. Inflated land prices forcing people "of the same class" to live in the same concentration camps.
In his next life, he is going to be born as one of the victims to his concepts.
Zari

In what way is it rubbish pea? I'm not sure why you mean, that we are not moving towards a higher level of consciousness, or that the light workers, and other groups are another source or dis-info? I personally believe that we have moved into a new "age" and that this is the reason for more people "waking up". A lot of ancient civilisations thought we would move into the age of Aquarius, and become more aware, and I think this is what is happening. I don't know a lot about any of these groups, and would like more information on them.

07 Dec 2013 16:05:18
Lightworkers, Indigo Children, what utter crap. Makes me want to puke. InterGalactic Federation of Light give me a break, here is my 'Hand's Solo' (flips the bird at the IGFL). This is the subjective opinion of pea.

Hi Zari that sounds like a good idea, you would simply be using the techniques used against them, as a method of "enlightenment" so to speak. If you can do this then I would be extremely interested in the methods used, as every time I've tried to explain anything to people, I'm met with a wall of pointing to this "evidence" or that "history", and I find it extremely frustrating.

Also not linked to this discussion, but I recently looked into Nesara, and found it extremely interesting. What do you make of light workers as it seems to be quite closely linked?

Thank you for the reply Ed033. Quick follow up if I may.
Could you recognize the pattern the injected disinformation follows?
In other words, what should I be extra skeptical about while going through the material?
I am more interested in the techniques rather than the history.
Zari

Hey anon, I have the same issues with getting through to some people close to me.
This sounds terrible, but I have been contemplating of devising a behavioral modification course (brainwashing) so as to decondition them.
Begin by bringing implanted trigger words from the subconscious to the conscious. Explaining their etymology during the process, pointing out how the establishment manipulates.
Instill a sense of security in their lives. Train them to see abundance in themselves and everywhere.
Then supply them with information gradually increasing in complexity.
Breach their trust in the establishment, provide new ways of seeing the world, instill inquisitiveness in them and the ability to deconstruct information presented to them.
Zari

I tried explains this all to my brother earlier who is a law student, he dismissed it all as a conspiracy, and wouldn't even look at the evidence. For me this is the most terrifying part as he is a very good person, but has been brainwashed to believe what he's been told by schooling and mainstream media. If we can't even convince the good people, and intelligent I might add, then what hope do we have in convincing anyone else. A lot of my friends and family have also seen this change in me and my views, but are unwilling to take any of it on board. How do we go about convincing that other percentage to make up 2% of the population of what's actually going on in this world?

I've become quite a fan of Deborah Tavares. She talks a lot of sense about this and many other issues.

Ryan.

06 Dec 2013 18:25:18
Apartheid was clearly wrong, every sensible person knows that. But the guy was rightfully put in prison for murder and terrorism. So he forgives people for rightfully locking him up? And all the fake hypocrisy going on now.

Hey Ed033. Any idea if the original system can still be found? Perhaps the name of a book?
Zari

Link to the Nasa War document against humanity.
http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf
Zari

The polluted stream wants us focusing on revolutionaries that fought issues that have been resolved.
I wonder how many modern day revolutionaries are murdered everyday all over the world, whose actions and names we will never know.
Reject their emotional manipulation. Resist, disobey, create your own way.
Zari

In that case ed, it's one if the most terrifying things I have ever watched.

I'm getting severe grief at work because every time someone mentions his death I ask if we'll do the same when Martin McGuinness dies.

Mr t g,

Thanks for the advice, I will do some more digging. I must admit chris' research is compelling and the number of inconsistancies is alarming! I like to get a broad spectrum of views where possible so will continue to dig around.

Harold

What about the Winnie Mandela "football team"? They weren't really sunshine and light were they. Just putting it out there.

Supasub

@Harold
You can find loads of info about the case in the MSM. Just read the statements reportedly made by witnesses, then take note of all the contradictions. There are many. The Angel of Woolwich is yet to make an appearance as is boyadee, why?
aangirfan website is one of only a few that mention this particular false flag and most who do are merely scourcing from Spivey anyway. Maybe he's the only one with balls enough.

MrTrotskysGhost

Well said Franky, you took the words out of my mouth.
RIP Nelson Mandela.

MrTrotskysGhost

Nelson Mandela is sorely missed today over here, It's actually quiet weird everyone I meet is in a daze almost! going to be celebrating in his honour tonight, only way he would of wanted!

A load of nonsense really

Roscojef