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Smart phones are always connected to the Internet, and they follow you every where.

You could just unplug it.

Well unnamed poster I can only speak for myself and say I have never chopped up anyone so I can not comment on how much blood there should be, plus there was a blood trail (i will put the link at the bottom) plus there is footage of the the two men charging the police before they got shot which I seen on sky news a hour ago, I am the most skeptical person about any terror event but this is not one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhtV7qkuNnk

Wasn't aware there was scientific evidence that provess conspiracy!
Please do share! Lol
you must be taking the piss, cause we've all seen the blood, and I'm sure you know it was there and you've indeed seen it! I'm guessing you are nothing more than someone trying to take the piss with the people who regularly visit this site! You must be, no one has a clue what you are talking about! Even the ed hasn't said a word about this, and me and who're the editor may be may not agree on everything, but I have enough respect for them to believe that if there was some solid proof of something dodgy, they will at least leave a link for u to make your own mind up! So I'm also guessing, te ed has done his/her homework on this, and so far have found nothing worth sharing!
Don't get me wrong, u had me for a bit there, but I can't take what u are saying seriously!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

Ps! If u r not takin the piss, you should put up whatever it is you are looking at so everyone can see what you are on about! You can't come on here ranting, and backing it up with an un-named poster rant with no evidence!

Murp!

It saddens me to hear a long time poster like yourself post this type of thing! I may not agree with everything your posted, but your post have made me ponder quite a bit sometimes, so I hope you're post is said with a pinch of salt!
The uk, yes may have its problems, but look around you brother! Where are you going to go? You may not believe it and that's your entitlement, but this country isn't as bad as we all say it is really! Don't get me wrong, can't stand the torys, but that's another issue! But us uk folk have it better than most on the planet! It may be s***ty sometimes, maybe a lot of the time, but still not the worst place to be! We can demonstrate, voice opinion, vote, love whoever we like, be friends with who we like, gie new things a try! Most country's don't have that! Now I'm not saying everything is rosey in the uk, as its obv far from it! But I'm proud and happy to be a citizen of the United Kingdom, and I let my children know, almost on a daily basis, that we are very lucky to have the things we have!
Anyway mate, don't be too hastey, the call of our shores will always ring when you leave, and you will miss it at some stage!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

To be completely honest Jonty I don't know what to make of this yet. I'm still trying to figure it out and knowing me it'll take a while. It took me six months to be sure Sandy Hook was a false flag. It's too early to say on this one, but in the meantime I'm very interested to hear what you and all the other regular posters here have to say. Respect to all. Ryan.

Our troops are there for the benefit of the ordinary citizen etc...

Honestly jay I can't believe you said that and meant it.

That is the most ignorant and naive thing I have read here for a long time.

Ryan.

Unamed poster!

What goes on in the country's you mention is terrorism! Our troops (wherever they may be), are there for the benifit of the ordinary citizen, trying to take democracy to these places, and to give them the same opportunitys we have! I know most on here won't agree with me, but that's my opinion and I'm proud we are trying to do so! But like I said, only my personal opinion!
I'm as disgusted with acts like the London atrocity as I am with any other destination suffering such brutality!
On another note, you are talking about people on here saying this or that about s***, but different when on their own doorstep! The people who visit this site merely post their opinion, and the more established posters are happy to discuss their own opinion!
So I'll ask you as I would anyone else!
Where is the evidence of this tragic killing that leans toward a false flag or conspiracy? If you are worth your salt, you'll at least try and show or share info you hae so we can all check out why you suggest such an idea!
Never be swayed by anyone, until the evidence convinces YOU, and only YOU! Then, if you are wrong, you can put your hands up as say you got it wrong, instead of blaming a bad source!

most people on here, like frankyscouser, or captain needa will happily discuss their views, and if presented with proper evidence, would happily change their view, but like I said, only with PROPER evidence!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

Ps! Not everything that happens is a conspiracy mate, there may be some s*** that doesn't add up, but you have to ask yourself! Why would the authority's share everything they know with us? That would give their game away, and let future terrorists, murderers or whatever, more info on how to avoid being caught! It's not easy, but sometimes, we have to trust them!

Ryan

No problem pal I don't expect everyone to agree just my gut feeling about this one, also wanted to point out that when the police receive a call on a stabbing 99% of the time it's some young gang member who they would rather not survive.

Jonty

This is to the unnamed poster who mentions when it is on our doorstep, if you come often on this site most of us know what is happening in the places you have mentioned and we know that false flags do happen like 7/7 but this is so way off the mark its untrue, if we accept the western allies particularly the usa and uk are funding uprisings that are killing innocent muslims then we also have to accept that we are going to create extreme muslim radicals.

Just like they couldn't have dreamed 7/7 up Jonty? Not getting on your case mate, just wouldn't put anything past any government. Ryan.

This is not a false flag even our government could not have dreamed this one up.

This was a horrid act undertaken by two nutters who are obviously disturbed, do you know how many calls the police get in London for stabbings which is why they would have thought at the time of the call that this was another gangland attack.
Having spoken to a few officers when I used to live in London they don't mind that filth stabbing each other which is why if it is true about the 10-15 mins why it may have took longer than you would think to respond to an attack like this, however it is too early to be drawing too many conclusions.
My thoughts are with this young mans family and his 2 year old little girl.


Jonty

I understand it helps some people! But it shouldn't Pablo! The gift of life and wonder of the universe should be enough for anyone! A clear night sky, a cheeky cold breeze on a warm summers day, children laughing etc.
But there is still this strange urge to turn to a diety that has no single shred of evidence suggesting such things should be believed! It sickens me!
And not all humans crave the things you speak of, just like not all Muslims are murderers!
Cheers for the welcome back captain!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

Look on this guy's timeline:

https://twitter.com/BOYADEE

he was there when it went down, in fact he has supposedly been offered 75k by the media to tell what he saw. there are false flags and also radicals sadly.

Guys
Can I add one thing to the whole Hillsborough debate please?
Most cops who worked that day at Hillsborough were normal people who were doing a job they believed in. For every lying, self-serving, A** covering boss there will have been many many decent bobbies who did their best in the horrible situation they found themselves in. Many who tried desperately to save lives and many who were distraught at what happened that day. The culture back then was - do what you are told son and don't question the company. There was a terrible cover-up back then which will surely be figured out eventually.

I stopped believing God by the age of 9 Jay, but it hasn't stopped me taking a friend to church and observing what it appears to provide everyday people with.

If you haven't got religion then you're believing in some other folly, like progress, which is where you appear to sit. Believing in progress is a means to deny your mortality and to deny that we will someday be better than what we've always been: Humans, cravers of power and murder.

The Tooth Fairy owes me money.

Pablo

Jay,

It's not as simple as you think to just drop religion. Humanity has had some form of religion as part of its support structure for as long can be documented. Unfortunately, as I see it, a majority of the planet believe in some form of mystical overlord. They believe he (god forbid it might be female :-)) will help them in times of trouble and is solely responsible for all that is good in the world. I see where you are coming from but, as Pablo rightly points out, many people this weekend will turn to a god for comfort. I agree people and the world as a whole would be better off if it could see the trap religion creates but I don't think it will be in our time. Other people will look to blame religion for the murder yesterday but that too is a trap. Anyone, who chooses to do what they did to another human being should be considered outside of humanity and treated as such. What religion they claim to represent makes no difference to me. What they did was inhumane and they don't deserve to be considered part of humanity.

Captain Needa

p. s. welcome back Jay

Cheers franky mate!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

Here's a guy who did something similar back in 2006. I don't think it's available in the shops yet :-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-425665/Waterwheel-invention-promises-cheap-electricity.html

The next link may be the guy mentioned in the OP. I remember seeing a show about this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jun/03/microhydro-hydro-mills-electricity-wales

Captain Needa

He might have been a farmer, I thought he was an engineer but if not then even more impressive