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Melbourne mate if we all agreed it would be boring and yes I can see your point of view I really can my point of view is, what benefits is there for any government past or present to admit there are alien crafts in the sky and we have caught a disc? I can't think of any mate, denying there are no ufos does make sense if your a leader of a country, you can use caught ufo to reverse engineering were probably most of the sightings are man made, to cut a long story short I can understand why we are not getting told the truth that my opinion but like I said I understand your views mate.

I think the level of the speed these crafts change direction and travel from 1 side of radar to other in the blink of a eye is the main reason it seems there not our own black technology

I think it was filmed in a studio and the idea was that they had birds imported to make it look realistic (as the scene was supposed to be in the great outdoors).

The DVD release, in HD, showed a bird in the background, but the VHS version is different and in my opinion looks nothing like one.

Adam

My inside wikileaks informed me edd

Was it filmed in studio? if so would a bird be in there? ok it may have flown in, but surely someone would have noticed this?

and why update or change it if was just a bird, surley you can just leave it in?

The theory was JTB was in fact Christ and not the other way round. that was their theory.

The whole holy blood Holy Grail book tells the story of the Cathers etc and some interesting things, but then it basically just say. THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IT MEANS and goes on to ramble about how they theorise Mary Magdalene was pregnant and Jesus was the childs father and she fled to France,. but they do not have any evidence or anything to back this up. Also, IMO France at the time was tribal and the almost feral people living there would be unlikely to accept and take in a foreigner to their shores, your go, this story becomes more like a story that they made up.

What would have been better for them was to go with the Cathers and knights templars rise to power which they do touch on.

They, the KT found something when they were digging in Jerusalem which gave them immense power, some say this was the cup of Christ, others believe it was the alchemy knowledge or something to do with the philosophers stone. no not harry potter the chemical process! anyhow a rag tag group of mercenaries in affect became a power house overnight with immense wealth and power.

Their power continued even after their apparent break up on Friday the 13th and all that, and the survivors fleeing to Scotland, England and most notably Switzerland which still bears their emblem on their national flag to this day and also became powerful basically overnight with banking etc.

But as I said, it would have been better if they had explored these theories in details.


TA {Ed001's Note - how was France almost feral back then? There is plentiful evidence of a very well organised trade network with the Middle East region. The people would be well used to dealing with those foreigners, and would be extremely likely to have a proportion of them living around them. Makes no sense to say they would be unlikely to accept them, most of those attitudes you are referring to were later inventions. Brought in by medieval kings needing to get people to fight their wars for them, what better way than patriotism and making others out to be less worthy? You are talking about a time when peoples, such as the Romans, were moving around, tribes would migrate, mingle and become other tribes altogether.}

I have heard many rumours about this. Some of the damage on the Titanic appears to indicate an explosion from inside, although there are arguments that this was due to pressure from water.

also, there is some issue about the sister ship and titanic, but I can't remember what it was, something to do with photographs of the two vessles together and the funnles and deck windows, they were basically identical bar the above two?

finally there was also something said about the company getting rid of all of the staff that had served on the sister ship before titanic set sail and a massive refurb to the sister ship which would go along the line of an insurance job, and a radical theory that the titianic hit another ship rather than an iceberg.

TA

Yes mate but your saying the government is hiding the fact that alien space crafts have been found in existence and kept from the public. I think it far more likely that the government has created these black technology aircrafts and is hiding it from the public. If you know for a fact that these black tech projects go on, which thanks to Ed033 video (thanks) we can be pretty certain they do, then I don't see the reasoning behind still assuming that alien space crafts are more likely than not. Not trying to have a crack mate, as I enjoy your posts, just throwing a different viewpoint forward.

Melbourne CFC

Its the won't that I am alluding to mate, I can sort of understand why the people in power knew that there were ufos in our airspace and denied it, why would they admit there are crafts that can out maneuver our planes when ever they want?we know the reason it would cause panic. until one lands or crashes in a populated area then we will get the definite answer, until then I will read between the lines with evidence for and against after all we should question everything that gets told to us.

I can't explain it mate, but I am not going to assume it must be aliens, when proof of their existence is sketchy at best. Also there is a big difference between people in power that can't explain something and people that won't.

Melbourne CFC

Haha thanks Ed, appreciate it mate. I'll give it a watch after work.

Melbourne CFC

Is it true edd that the kremlin approached roman abromovich and said instead of spending 1 billion pounds with chelsea to win the champions league he can spend a quarter of that on a time machine?

{Ed033's Note - I've never heard that before, frankyscouser

How do you explain trained pilots seeing strange crafts even nasa experts can not explain what they are, I am talking about 1 per cent of sightings that are extraterritorial crafts.

I agree Heskey, I think you must of misread my post, as I said I think it naive to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe. The point I was making is I don't believe that they have advanced to the stage on creating space crafts that can enter and exit our atmosphere.

Franky, I think its hard to base an opinion on cave drawings and tribes who are, by in large, still yet to see the Western World. The majority of these tribes are yet to see a car, so I think could be easierly dupped into making more out of strange lights etc in the sky. Imagine if a fighter jet or a commercial plane for example, flew overhead at night, and you hadn't seen it before. The fact most drawings date back thousand of years tells me maybe it was a meteor coming close enough to earth or even a succession of shooting stars. Thanks for the heads up about black projects mate.

Melbourne CFC

To Melbourne cfc regarding alien life although I respect your opinion I disagree it is a mathamatical probability that alien life exists and has already been discovered on Mars it may not be the stuff of science fiction but bacterial lifeforms were discovered on Mars which means it possible but not likely for aliens to be here.

Hi ed, I read that the olympic was damaged in collision with the hawke and the insurers wouldn't pay out but also that the main opposers to the fed reserve were on the maiden journey of that ship. 2 birds one stone?

{Ed033's Note - Definitely 2 birds with one stone

Never heard that conspiracy before edd good video, jp morgan dodging last minute he's place on the titanic smells, I am open minded on this subject because corruption goes on and one thing that still goes on a banker (jpm)has a leader of a nation by the balls.

05 Mar 2013 15:06:27
Nope i'm wasting away. The mrs decorated and packed everything into the man cave so can't get into the man cave and only just got broadband back. Mort

Unnamed poster, that's the kind of thing someone who has never been to Liverpool would say.

To the above poster you have not been to liverpool much have you?