I just wanted to say I had family who died in the Holocaust and I find it rather offensive that anyone could suggest that it was made up.
There isn't a Jewish conspiracy to rule the world. Maybe there is a lot of Jewish people who have massive stakes in the media and banking industries, yet there is equally a large amount of Atheists and Christians. I know this is a conspiracy page so maybe I'm over reacting, but to suggest the Holocaust was a hoax touched a nerve.
John {Ed001's Note - I think most people are just saying the numbers were exaggerated, rather than it didn't happen. Also you are making the mistake most people do, Judaism and Zionism are two distinct entities. After all, there are a lot of people who think Freemasonry is involved and that is in no way a Judaic organisation. I think it is more a case of people saying some Jewish people were involved, rather than it being a Jewish conspiracy. This is why I wasn't sure about even starting with this thread, it is too personal to many people.}
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There was no Mayan prophecy as I've said before its just the end of their current calendar, which means they'll probably use a new one, the only thing which says there will be a flood is 2012 the film which hilariously inaccurate, it may be a significant date for the illuminati or new world order or even a natural disaster but the world will not end for billions of years!
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Frankyscouse, Stalin killed 20 million Russians and his excuse was "one death is a tragedy but a million deaths is a statistic"
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Just something i read, thought it made most sense if something bad was to happen, maybe a huge earthquake causes the floods?
i personally believe it's a start of a new time, like the guy in the Giza video mentioned.
{Ed033's Note - If it's the start of a new time that will benefit the people of Earth that would be good. What wouldn't be good is something that will continue to benefit an "elite" few.
Read discussioni personally believe it's a start of a new time, like the guy in the Giza video mentioned.
{Ed033's Note - If it's the start of a new time that will benefit the people of Earth that would be good. What wouldn't be good is something that will continue to benefit an "elite" few.
Yeah mate keep us updated i would really like to know what they say.
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I think i read somewhere Stalin killed/starved more of hes own people than Jewish people in the Holocaust that leads me to think there was a exaggeration to the numbers that was killed and a agenda by the rich Zionist to get Israel.
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It's hard to tell how many Jews were in east Europe at the time though because the nazis refused to count Jews in the census or in any unemployment figures meaning the death toll could have been exaggerated
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But why would such a radical regime such as the nazis go through legitimate means to get Jews relocated, if they were going to implement genocide. I've been reading that it was incredibly close to having Madagascar as a Jewish settlement for the worlds Jews.
If I was planning any form of genocide (which I certainly am not!) I'd be looking at ways of luring Jews into Germany or other occupied countries to carry out the atrocities. Not letting them leave with their lives beliefs and their monetary assets.
Stee {Ed001's Note - maybe the only thing they wanted was to get the Jews out of the Third Reich? If so you would take the cheap option first - let them leave of their own accord. Any that are left, would then be much easier and less costly to clear out.}
Read discussionIf I was planning any form of genocide (which I certainly am not!) I'd be looking at ways of luring Jews into Germany or other occupied countries to carry out the atrocities. Not letting them leave with their lives beliefs and their monetary assets.
Stee {Ed001's Note - maybe the only thing they wanted was to get the Jews out of the Third Reich? If so you would take the cheap option first - let them leave of their own accord. Any that are left, would then be much easier and less costly to clear out.}
I think your probably right with regards the Anne frank diary, but I haven't done enough research to have a proper opinion on it. I've mainly been looking into media involvement into Jewish affairs.
With regards the holocaust the German reich not only allowed German Jews to be relocated, but allowed them to leave Germany with all their assets which equated into our inflated economy as £400,000,000.
Also where the exaggeration is involved according to population census from around ww2 after all the 'relocating' of the Jews from not only Germany but all countries under influence from the reich there was only 300,000 Jews in and around Germany. Of these 300,000 a lot of them had declared war on Germany. So in a war situation it's not uncommon to destroy the opposition
Stee {Ed001's Note - there were many that were in occupied countries, so 300k would not be a true figure. You have to consider that those countries would also be involved in any extermination, while occupied.}
Read discussionWith regards the holocaust the German reich not only allowed German Jews to be relocated, but allowed them to leave Germany with all their assets which equated into our inflated economy as £400,000,000.
Also where the exaggeration is involved according to population census from around ww2 after all the 'relocating' of the Jews from not only Germany but all countries under influence from the reich there was only 300,000 Jews in and around Germany. Of these 300,000 a lot of them had declared war on Germany. So in a war situation it's not uncommon to destroy the opposition
Stee {Ed001's Note - there were many that were in occupied countries, so 300k would not be a true figure. You have to consider that those countries would also be involved in any extermination, while occupied.}
I have just prevented my daughter from having her jabs and have now been asked to attend a meeting at her school,am now in the process of obtaining as much info as possible to present to the school,cant wait to see the reaction when presented with the facts(if they can even be bothered reading them)will keep you all updated.
Read discussionStee i don't think the Anne frank diaries are a hoax but more of a exaggeration which could be the same as the Holocaust .
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There's a statement on Facebook along the lines of "If YOUR kid has had the jab, why should you care whether mine hasn't?" {Ed001's Note - the thing is that most of these jabs are now being given for illnesses that aren't life-threatening, so why would you need immunity from them? More people die from flu jabs each year than do from influenza. Is it a form of euthanasia? To give them to the elderly who are no longer paying their way, but drawing a state pension? Certainly the state of wards for elderly patients and lack of care in NHS hospitals would suggest a deliberate attempt to reduce the population of pensioners.}
Read discussionFranky it might be controversial but I definitely think that the Holocaust numbers were greatly exaggerated. The evidence of lies and cover ups is too overwhelming. There are some very interesting reads on here, starting with Padawan's question about the authenticity of the Anne Frank Diary.
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Remember people, Anti-Zionism is NOT Anti-Semitism. There is a BIG difference.
The Turrican (a newbie) {Ed001's Note - it must be said that there are precedents set for gaining mass sympathy by claiming persecution. It worked for Christianity, for instance, who massively exaggerated reports of persecution in Roman times, in order to gain sympathy. It would certainly not be beyond the realms of possibility to make the tragedy seem far worse than it actually is. It must be remembered that also, to add to the Zionist-Semitism point, that thinking it might have been exaggerated is not the same as thinking it didn't happen.}
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Remember people, Anti-Zionism is NOT Anti-Semitism. There is a BIG difference.
The Turrican (a newbie) {Ed001's Note - it must be said that there are precedents set for gaining mass sympathy by claiming persecution. It worked for Christianity, for instance, who massively exaggerated reports of persecution in Roman times, in order to gain sympathy. It would certainly not be beyond the realms of possibility to make the tragedy seem far worse than it actually is. It must be remembered that also, to add to the Zionist-Semitism point, that thinking it might have been exaggerated is not the same as thinking it didn't happen.}
I have come around to that opinion Aaron and to take it further i would not let my kids get there jabs when they were babies if i could,my youngest girl is due to to get rubella/bcg jab in the next few years and i know me and the mrs are going to argue about this,i am adamant she will not get the jab and the mrs thinks or does not think about the stuff i believe in.
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It's a pretty poor drone in terms of what thr USA does have at its disposal. Plus a few country's in the region use those types of drones.
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Is her body rejecting the blue blood?
Read discussionAlright Franky IMO I think most flu type viruses/illnesses are man made anyway.
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Was this the night of the conceiving?
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Maybe it was William's brilliant personality and amazing looks
Read discussionSorry he actually said he was the "Messiah" ?? Obviously i've missed this in the mainstream. But he actually said it? Not words put in his mouth or some sort of smear to discredit him? Dt goit lol Mort
{Ed033's Note - Yes, David Shayler is convinced he is the Messiah and says it. He says he became convinced by a "Spirit" leading him to certain documents and certain things that have happened to him.
Read discussion{Ed033's Note - Yes, David Shayler is convinced he is the Messiah and says it. He says he became convinced by a "Spirit" leading him to certain documents and certain things that have happened to him.