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Yes i think it was a set up with a scapegoat.

Mort

He means the olympics was a giant fertility rite i'm guessing?

Or maybe that due to the pleasantness of the occasion and all those free tickets etc coupled with being newlyweds nature took its course.

Depends if you go for the conspiracy or the non conspiracy view.

Mort

I think we should open the debate edd,in your opinion edd do you think the Holocaust was exaggerated for the reasons i mentioned in my previous post?
frankyscouse
{Ed033's Note - probably

What do you mean about the Olympics? Sorry if that's a stupid question I am a novice in here.

Jonjo Shelveys good at magic, he almost beat harry potter last summer!
LP

So you think Meyer Levin added stuff into it 033?

{Ed033's Note - I wouldn't know

Thats what the olympics was about ?

To be honest he did throw the 9/11 comment in lol,yeah seen a video about him being the new messiah ,he is still well clued up when talking but agreed it is a pity , it takes all credit ability away from the real stuff he knows inside mi5 and things we write on this site everyday.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - David Shayler was possibly the only person who was invited onto main stream media and could talk about 9/11 or 7/7 etc. as being false flag operations without being called "names" because he was seen by the main stream media as credible and qualified because he was a counter-terrorist MI5 agent. As soon as he announced he was the Messiah, he was no longer credible and was no longer invited onto main stream media.

What do you make of the anne frank story ed?

{Ed033's Note - In my opinion, it would be obvious that if you're going to publish someone's written accounts of life over 2 years, you would make it a more "exciting" story for the reader; or the publisher would tell you to turn it into a more "exciting" story for the reader, in order for it to be published. Therefore, you would add fictional content to it. And if you weren't much of a writer, you would get someone to add fictional content to it for you.

That's the one edd,funny thing about the video edd is they are supposed to be discussing the soviet spy who got poisoned and died in london and they brought shaylor in for hes expert views on it but the sky presenter was taken aback about shaylor saying 9/11 and 7/7 was a inside job it threw the presenter.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - David Shayler probably changed the subject to get the 9/11 issue onto the main stream media. It's a pity David Shayler now thinks he is the Messiah.

The 'original' diary is in a Swiss bank vault.They don't tell you that at the museum. Interesting topic when you read up on it.

{Ed033's Note - On a similar note, the original Queen Victoria diaries are not the ones that are shown to the public. They don't want people knowing that she thought she was communicating with Prince Albert on the "Other Side" through a Medium (one of her servants)

I have read a bit about this. The strangest thing for me is why would a young teenager write that she hoped her diary would be published.

Where in my original post did I mention anything about the Holocaust not happening, please point it out to me? I was questioning the authenticity of the Anne Frank diaries. The fact she used a ballpoint pen to write them, the fact her father paid a writer Meyer Levin substantial monies after a court hearing. There are a few other things including the style of writing, the detail of early entries when there was no reason to write so much without knowing what was going to happen. At no point have I said the Holocaust did not happen in my OP.

Padawan

A man is never more serious than when he is joking.

No edd he was in studio with a sky news feller and some other science feller who found shaylor interesting but never believed him,the thing that stood out for me was the sky anchorman sounded really shocked about the stuff we talk about on here every day,which is quite surprising considering what type of job he is in, then he tries to question shaylors beliefs and shaylor bats him away a matter of factually.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - Ok, I have changed the video

Good point frankie . I also don't believe the holocaust was faked, however this is a website which encourages people to question what they are told by their governments so surely the guy isn't totally out of line by suggesting there's a possiblity that what we've been told isn't wholly true.


Need to stress though I totally disagree with the guys opinion but just playing devils advocate.


Gordo

I am going to play devils advocate here,i dont think the holocaust was a set up,but there seems to be a opinion that the death toll was greatly exaggerated for a reason that still exists today,Israel ,i don't claim to know everything and i could be wrong about this but since i have been questioning the people that rule us one thing stands out every war other people or countries gain something,so if the USA could only attack the middle east if someone attacked them first why not the persecution of the Jewish people could be the only way to get there own country?just throwing it out there.
frankyscouse

Its my birthday yay finally a birthday where something will be happening other than everyone being tight as coz xmas is just round the corner.

Kopping a feel

If you are under the impression that the holocaust was a hoax setup by the Allied to make the germans look bad you need your head checking.

Kopping a feel

What evidence? Where?