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Shows u have f----d up the world is about any religious beliefs that a post causes this much reaction .
frankyscouse

Ed, didn't you say a while ago you believed an afterlife is possible because of a sudden weight loss people have when they die?

I agree with Supasub's opinions and if there is a creater, we humans wouldn't have worked him/her/it out at all, which is why I don't follow a religion. However, I think some form of conscious creater of the universe is no more unplausible than emerging from nothing.

Adam {Ed001's Note - until it is proven otherwise, I will always believe something is possible.}

Act as worlds policemen?are you having a laugh? don't believe they hype they intervened because of atrocities and genocide ,if that were the case were have they been in Zimbabwe? the USA only intervene when it is in its best interest,The main instigators of the civil wars in Yugoslavia are Americans and Germans.But the Americans are, by far, the most responsible for the bloodshed in Bosnia,in February 1992, it looked as if the war was completely prevented by EC brockered Lisbon peace agreement,Of course, the Americans jumped in to save the war. Their final goal was to establish an Islam fundamentalist state in, what they called "the Heart of Europe." This would than be the future trouble for Europeans for many years to come,In early 1992 American administration decided to once again take over the game. It was time for a kill. America will again be at the helm of Yugoslav destruction. As we will see the key player was to be no other than Mr. WARREN ZIMMERMANN the proud "last American Ambassador to Yugoslavia as we used to know it".

After the wars in Slovenia and Croatia the fighting in Yugoslavia died out in January 1992. Mr. Vance's plan was signed and the two warring sides in Croatia were to be separated by UN troops. (We now see that America was only buying time to arm and equip Croatian fascists for the "final solution"). But Bosnia was calm. It was calm all the time despite the raging war in adjacent Croatia. It was clear, though, that the story of Croatia can repeat in Bosnia (actually, at that time when major countries of the West recognized Croatia and Slovenia, thus derecognizing Yugoslavia - it was, with that act - guaranteed!).y the war the three constituent nations of Bosnia were more and more divided by the day. Under European Community auspices the leaders of the three groups, Mr Izetbegovic, for Muslimas, Karadzic for Bosnian Serbs and Boban for Croats, SIGNED the maps of division of Bosnia, in Lisbon, on February 23, 1992. Bosnia was to be a confederation divided into three ethnic regions. And THERE WOULD BE NO WAR!

Steps in Uncle Sam. (Eager to sell arms, the only working industry of the morally and otherwise dilapidated Evil Empire).

Giving a brief background, dont belive the bs.
frankyscouse

Who do u think was behind the Bosnia thing, these big powerful families...

I'll dispute the Bosnia thing. They are the worlds most powerful nation and have always taken it on themselves to act as world policeman. So there supposed to stand back and let genocide happen? Despite the founding principles of the UN and the Atlantic charter?

Other than that i agree with everything he said. The fbi, cia, police aren't really gangs they are the tools of the gangs, the real gangs are the big powerful families.

I think Deano has made himself look a right tit there. Religion is simply a device invented by people to justify the killing of innocent people. The crusades were "Killing in the name of God" - a piss poor way of justifying slaughtering masses of innocent people.

KiwiRed

Aaron, mate, I didn't say I dont believe in god. I just don't believe in any man made religion. Also, if there isn't a god whose to say there isn't an after life.

Like I said, we'll when we die.

Plain Taint Hall

I think that religion is wrong and agree it is just a way of controlling people but I do believe in god
LP

SERIOUSLY THOUGH WE MIGHT BE IN A COMPUTER SIMULATION! why does no one find this interesting? for those that do heres a link to an interview with rich terrile NASA scientest who has found evidence that we are in fact in a super advanced computer simulation. http://www.vice.com/read/whoa-dude-are-we-inside-a-computer-right-now-0000329-v19n9

clt

I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent omnipotent god
Would have designedly created parasitic wasps
With the express intention of their feeding on the living bodies of caterpillars

Franky it was a study done by psychologists to find what sort of character traits and personalities would make the ideal president, the highest scorers based against their personality matrix were Clinton and Nixon the 2 most flawed of the 20th Century.

Both of them were pathological liars. Both almost got impeached. Both went on tv and lied to the world. Nixon for Watergate and Checkers and Clinton for Whitewatergate and Lewinsky. Nixon resigned before they could impeach him and Clinton somehow wriggled off the hook despite calls to impeach him.

Clinton was involved in a lot of shady deals and i think the truth isn't fully out there yet.

Nixon was a pathological liar and paranoid, and did a lot of wrong things. But he wasn't the only one to use wiretaps on suspected enemies. The Kennedy's did pretty much the same, its just that getting murdered keeps them from a lot of criticism.

Mort.

Science isn't bullsh!t by definition.
Religion is a method of control.
Owls and sheep
Liono

Yeah, previously £250 and no receipt daily expenses but now £50 daily, no receipt needed, who else live's by these accounting rules. We have laws, they have guidelines.

Supasub

Haha very good.

Supasub

When it comes to politicians when will people learn. It's one set of rules for them and another for us. Please bear in mind this is an assumption, if politicians pay their way via the same PAYE system that we use, how can they claim expenses? If I tried doing that, I honestly think the taxman would personally knock on my door just to laugh in my face. Or am I wrong and they are paid on a self employed basis or some other magical way?

Aaron

The exchange between Deano and Ed001 is exactly what happens when religion and science are brought into the conversation. Both subjects have plenty of bullsh*t knocking about, but bring them together and, ironically, you get a big bang.

Aaron

Clinton i can believe ,maybe my judgement is clouded by the wiretaps with Nixon.
frankyscouse

After watching Charlie adam tonight, I can honestly say hand on heart that this guy does not take any banned substances, but if anyone could pass on Lance's phone number to him I would be grateful. TA.

Don`t think many people care about calling a copper a pleb. It was about fairness, if me or you said that to a policeman we would have been thrown directly into a police cell!.
Stuck up cabinet ministers are not above the law....

No he's not. Hackers are the of the earth.