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In the recent past, police have proven they can't be armed. The classic case was Jean Charles de Menezes, the innocent Brazilian guy who was shot dead just after 7/7 London bombings. There are reasons police have an armed division.

If the police were to be armed, and that's a big if, the shouldn't have proper rounds. A rubber bullet can be just as effective. Some police are dangerous enough without a gun. I have lost count of the amount of times a copper has cut me up or damn near rammed me on the roads. Some think because they are police that they're above the law and that on its own is the most dangerous thing, it also give genuine police an extremely bad name.

Aaron

That's exactly my point bud. Whether its diabetes, aids or even the flu, the government want to control the population. Look at David Cameron said (I think it was him anyway) families should limit how many kids they have to 2 or 3. I have 5 kids and if he was to say that to my face I'd of knocked him out cold. My kids mean everything to me and he basically slapped every parent who has 3 or more kids in the face with that statement.

Aaron

I believe in theres something alien out there, somewhere, certainly. Ghosts and spirits on the other hand I find difficult to believe are anything other than the product of imagination and fables.

Huws

I agree with you there Aaron. It certainly aids population control.

The laws are influenced by the rich, so they will always favour the rich.
The working class are deemed law breakers if they do pretty much anything at all that involves not paying someone something or taking something away from someone. Yes by such ways as theft but also if just by accident or without their prior knowledge. (anyone ever fell short on their income tax and witnessed the inland revenues reaction to this? lol)
Anyway, the big trick is to get rich and set yourself up as business. Once you have done this you can happily rob anyone of anything, pollute anything you want and avoid paying any fair share of taxes with a little forward thought and good advice. Safe in the knowledge that you can always point the finger of blame at somebody else, or quite simply resign and walk away without liability as 99 times out of 100 the law will always side with you. (Because your rich ofc) xD

Huws

I have sympathy for the 2 officers who were shot but I would be very concerned if there were any knee jerk reactions.
How many cover ups would there be if the cops were suddenly armed and went round shooting innocent people? terrible terrible idea in my opinion. We already have armed response there is no need for any more cops walking round shooting people. Maybe its time the person in charge who sent 2 unarmed officers round there as a 'routine' call instead of the armed response team should take some responsibilty eh? No doubt in my mind that a major failure had occurd from this decision.

Huws

Brilliant post - couldn't agree more.

Can I ask, is this your quote, or did you borrow it - because I think this is one of the truest statements I've ever heard!

"Sometimes when the establishment attacks the integrity of the working class the working class finds solidarity amongst itself....."

Joe

Great post, iv'e always felt that rangers celtic, catholic protestant thing was manipulated, u never seen the ira and the uda fighting each other, most of the time it was people who could'ant fight back, both as bad as each other

Well said mate,cant add anymore to that.
frankyscouse

He meant muppet as bush jnr was doing as instructed when in office {Ed001's Note - aren't the muppets just puppets anyway?}

Outstanding post fella.

Aaron

I will call u be gentle since u never left your name,i will use a quote of one of my favorite movies,the rich have been "fking over the poor since time begun,always have been always will"
frankyscouse

I think you meant to say muppet there mate
huddz red

Sorry franky, I didn't read properly, thought you were asking about mermaids, haha! The sonar/dead whales thing is interesting,have you ever heard of the 'Bloop'?

If not, look it up, I'm in work so can't refresh my memory but if I remember rightly, scientists in some vast ocean detected the bloop/sonar of some gigantic creature way bigger than any whale.

Could it have been unknown weaponry being tested?

RED_SKY

Agreed i do feel for the families of the policewomen but how many cases of police have actually been shot and killed in say 50 years?i guess not many,it would open a can of worms if the the police were armed.
frankyscouse

I'm not saying all police are over-zealous , but some i've come across i wouldn't trust with water-pistols.

JR

Do a search for the real zap ruder film

The one where the driver puts a bullet in his head

Ok couple of bits i youtubed

youtube.com/watch?v=9Q22tyH3-Q0 does only focus on the tsbd building but does show the (deliberately?) sloppy investigation of the crime scene.

youtube.com/watch?v=l6j7QF0CBUo&feature=related ok bit odd but very different haven't heard this one before. Worth reading just the posters comments some very interesting stuff which as i say i'd never heard before, i think its a bit banana's but also disturbing, i do think that family had some sort of involvement....

I've also copied this from one of the replies as it goes with what the guy originally asked.

"The mob killed Kennedy because JFK had Marilyn Monroe killed. She wanted to be Mrs.JFK. JFK had the same doc as Sam Giancona and Frank Sinatra. MM(also friends with Frank Sinatra). JFK had the doc prescribe sleeping pills that were 4 times the dosage.They didn't tell her this, so it looks like an accidental OD. The mob finds out and has kennedy killed in public."

There are literally millions of words out there in print and thousands of hours of footage, we will never know the truth i think.

Mort

If this sounds disrespectful in any way then I apologise profusely. The reason cures aren't handed out, in my opinion, is so that things like diabetes can keep people ticking over until their bodies start to slow down earlier than they should, with the hope the body won't stay strong for too long.

Again if that's offensive to anybody with diabetes I apologise. I don't mean it in an offensive way.

Aaron

Ed i think its a bit of both say 60-40 or 70-30 though to the companies, they make millions selling this stuff and the govt is too tight to buy stuff. {Ed001's Note - all down to the corporations, the govt just do as they tell them. It would be far cheaper to just cure people, so to suggest the govt are too tight to pay for it is nonsense, I am afraid.}