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07 Oct 2015 18:08:34
Double agents are rare outside of fiction.

Bare in mind went he first went to Russia he disappeared for several weeks.

During this time the counter espionage people would have had him and pulled him apart. Several times. No one trusts walk in defectors and no one is as paranoid as my countrymen.

They would have found out his motivations and if he was a double or not.

He's rare in that he seems motivated by ethics, morals or ideology.

Usually you turn people by the 3 Bs: Blackmail, bribery and bullshit. Any or all of them. Snowden doesn't fit any of them.

07 Oct 2015 18:17:18
Frankie,

I also had the thought that he could be a very well placed spy put in place by the USA to monitor Russia and give disinformation to the people there.

Is that a crazy thought, am I well off the mark?

07 Oct 2015 12:45:57
kim, I think he is a double agent if I am honest. another thing that got the alarm bells ringing is he done a. interview with the bbc panorama and I have wrote on another post further down what I think what the bbc motives are.

this guy is getting mainstream media promotions and the other two people I have mentioned get snippets unless it's related to Assange sex charge.

just my gut feeling.

07 Oct 2015 08:06:19
Franky I think the new laws was more of an over reaction to Snowdon than part of the plan. Shutting the door after the horse?

If Snowden is a plant he'll return home in the next couple of years.

06 Oct 2015 23:19:17
Hi guys thanks for replying.

I agree with the view that if he was really dangerous he would of gone 'missing' years ago.

06 Oct 2015 23:01:24
snowdon intel has always been available, the fact that now you have a guy that worked for the CIA and is now gone public to MSM and saying "hey guys look at this" that's what made the news not any revelations.

i think he was a shill, as soon as this came out what happened?
we get new laws passed ranging from snooping to people getting arrested without a trial and like you guys have mentioned, if he was the real deal he would either be dead or mind controlled like a true whistleblower hero, Bradley Manning.

Manning caused more of a stink because it was classified and came out at a sensitive time in iraq/afganistan.

i also include Julian Assange as a true whistleblower that one day will pay the price for his beliefs in freedom of speech.

06 Oct 2015 22:11:04
Depends on the context. Maybe its like the Kennedy assassination, people have spent 50 years talking about 2nd or 3rd shooters, the grassy knoll etc. But no one asks the important questions. Maybe the same with 911.

As for Snowden. I'm undecided. I agree with the editor if they wanted him dead they could accomplish it. Although once in Russia and in the hands of Moscow centre they'd have a job. But he's the best coup the centre has managed in 20 years. The Intel he's provided has been the real deal. And some of the stuff leaked has been highly damaging for Washington. I can't see them shooting themselves in the feet like that.

06 Oct 2015 17:42:25
Kim,
You would know a lot more than me about that kind of thing so I take your point and thanks for the info.
Coming from more of a point of ignorance I have to rely on gut instinct a lot of the time, trying to read between the lines of what is said etc.
Assange quote on 9/11
"I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."
I have real trouble putting trust in anyone who has researched 9/11 only to arrive at this conclusion, let alone someone of his background putting this message out.
Some of his supposed views scream controlled opposition to me.

06 Oct 2015 17:25:22
i think snowdon is a shill.

06 Oct 2015 13:57:08
Assange managed to get to an embassy. Its the one place that your safe. Unless you have a middle eastern rent a mob outside. No one will touch him inside an embassy because once that rule goes then what? Diplomatic immunity is a life saver. How many arab embassy staff have got off with crimes in London by waving their accreditation. If anything happened to him inside an embassy, and it was provable responsibility in one direction or the other then the international outcry would be huge.

06 Oct 2015 13:21:06
I watched the most recent richplanet video last night where Richard d hall surmised that both Snowden and assange are just part of the disinfo we are being fed, he thinks that if these guys were genuine they would have been hunted down and dealt with by now. I tend to lean in that direction also.

20 Sep 2015 12:31:27
first of all I do believe that there are unseen portals /dimensions/timeslips that hide anything from urban legends mentioned above to ufo crafts ,even going back in time , there is a tale wrote by a local aurthor tom slemen about a incident
called haunted liverpool timeslips 1 (youtube)
seen the kenny leach video
and it was srange the cave he mentioned but we have to be open to the real possibility that natural causes or a accident , I find it strange a experinced hiker was spooked that much to leave a cave but still choose to go back alone as well.

19 Sep 2015 10:11:10
Wow ed I never knew they had that technology! It must of been something like that I think!

I think it was a case of him getting too close to something he was not meant to see.

19 Sep 2015 07:55:27
You mention that bigfoot like creatures breaking backs of Laos soldiers Ed. What does the local folklore say about bigfoot in the area? Never knew that this part of Asia had them.
Many the Americans had a special unit of soldiers made up of them?

18 Sep 2015 18:11:35
It's all very odd and equally scary ed.

The tall Indians would be what people refer to sasquatch or Bigfoot I'm guessing, I always find it strange that only the Americans think they are an unknown primate, where as if u ask the natives they have always referred to them as a human tribe.

Granite seems to be very common in these disappearances too and I'm aware of the Norwegian tale of people living in boulders and the people to this day are scared to move them when building.

Have u by chance watch the Kenny Veech video? It was shot about 18 months ago when he says he found a cave that physically made him shake and very scared, in this video he goes looking for the cave again but this time armed, but where it should be it's not anymore, well on third visit he went missing and to this day he has not been found, all they DiD find was his cell phone outside an empty cave, they explored the cave but found nothing.

Very odd.