Ill addon to what Ed007 says, that don't be afraid to ask stupid questions, the more you ask, the more you learn.
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CTR, there's a TV show on H2 called Ancient Aliens that I'd recommend you to watch. It's actually a great channel in general for subjects people on here are interested in, it's worth keeping an eye on it and isn't too heavy going for people just starting to get interested. Don't ever apologise for asking questions, no matter how trivial or how silly you think they are, we're all here to pass on what we know and to learn from each other.
Read discussionExactly, Ryan, just not possible.
CTR, I don't think they were all actors but could be wrong. This part is the real mystery of 9/11 for me. There is some evidence that family members were receiving phonecalls from those on the planes when they were supposedly at heights that calls could not be made from! In other words I suspect that the calls were staged somehow. There was that one call where a lady seemed to whisper "it's a frame" at the end of her call to her husband. If the calls were staged I'm afraid I imagine the people were all 'taken care' of afterwards.
As an aside, I'm sure I remember reading that the family members of those who died in the towers were quickly offered a financial settlement and that most accepted. Somehow I think that acceptance implies consent towards the official story, meaning that those families are left with no course of legal action even if they start to see the lies? Sorry if I've got that wrong as I can't remember where I heard it.
Harold
Read discussionCTR, I don't think they were all actors but could be wrong. This part is the real mystery of 9/11 for me. There is some evidence that family members were receiving phonecalls from those on the planes when they were supposedly at heights that calls could not be made from! In other words I suspect that the calls were staged somehow. There was that one call where a lady seemed to whisper "it's a frame" at the end of her call to her husband. If the calls were staged I'm afraid I imagine the people were all 'taken care' of afterwards.
As an aside, I'm sure I remember reading that the family members of those who died in the towers were quickly offered a financial settlement and that most accepted. Somehow I think that acceptance implies consent towards the official story, meaning that those families are left with no course of legal action even if they start to see the lies? Sorry if I've got that wrong as I can't remember where I heard it.
Harold
14 Oct 2014 21:48:41
There is too much in ancient literature, greek, roman, norse, indian, Chinese, meso America, even cave drawings, depicting or talking of what could be 'aliens'. Aliens or angels? Gods or spacemen?
Kim Philby
Read discussionThere is too much in ancient literature, greek, roman, norse, indian, Chinese, meso America, even cave drawings, depicting or talking of what could be 'aliens'. Aliens or angels? Gods or spacemen?
Kim Philby
While highly probable imo guys what do u make of the family's of the victims on the plane? All actors?
Read discussionThe official speeds of the alleged aircraft in the NIST report ironically rule out the possibility of conventional airliners being used.
United 175 was supposed to be travelling at 510kts ( (587mph) when it hit the tower.
It's not possible for the aircraft to reach those speeds at 700-800 feet unless in a steep dive.
There were no aircraft imo.
Pilots Discuss Difficulty of WTC Attacks
http://youtu.be/bm58cPH8L78
Ryan
Read discussionUnited 175 was supposed to be travelling at 510kts ( (587mph) when it hit the tower.
It's not possible for the aircraft to reach those speeds at 700-800 feet unless in a steep dive.
There were no aircraft imo.
Pilots Discuss Difficulty of WTC Attacks
http://youtu.be/bm58cPH8L78
Ryan
J Edgar and vice president at the time Lyndon Johnson defo must of been involved.
Read discussionI agree gav that has always been my thinking, the road runner style hole in the buildings never sat well with me.
Read discussionCtr. I think they or a particular race could be our ancestors. Or we have been tinkered with through our dna. There appears to references to aliens/flying objects in the bible. You have old famous paintings and pictures depicting flying objects. God's and angels in things we've been brought up with without questioning basically are all from the sky which could also be Chinese whispers for star people / aliens etc. We are so different to every other animal on this planet.
Read discussionNo idea TBH, it's an area that goes way over my head.
Harold
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For a long time I believed they were remote controlled military drones that hit the towers, dressed up as jumbo jets, having been switched with the original planes.
Believe it or not, the most credible theory to me these days is the 'no plane' theory. Sounds bonkers but look at the close up shots of the 'planes' slicing straight through structural concrete and steel, not physically possible. The son of the Lear jet inventor (can't remember his christian name) has done some work on the no planes theory which you may find interesting.
No plane went near the Pentagon IMO, more likely some kind of missile.
Harold
Read discussionBelieve it or not, the most credible theory to me these days is the 'no plane' theory. Sounds bonkers but look at the close up shots of the 'planes' slicing straight through structural concrete and steel, not physically possible. The son of the Lear jet inventor (can't remember his christian name) has done some work on the no planes theory which you may find interesting.
No plane went near the Pentagon IMO, more likely some kind of missile.
Harold
Agree with you CTR, although I believe other factions would have had to be involved too in order to pull off such an event - possibly people within the FBI, top media people etc. (all compartmentalised in small groups).
Harold
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Hi super and gav 😜
Yes I have seen the footage and while it looks very interesting I must say I Dnt think it's true.
I believe it was the CIA and the mafia
Read discussionYes I have seen the footage and while it looks very interesting I must say I Dnt think it's true.
I believe it was the CIA and the mafia
Haha, just saw your reply bond further down ref wrong thread. I was a bit fuzzy after a few Aspall cider's. Ctr, if you've seen the footage of Jackie, what about what she could be holding in her hidden hand. And in the footage you say she is retrieving something, what about if she is actually handing something over? It's almost as if the agent gets on the back of the trunk and retrieves something too. Why isn't her dress from that day available for tests/inspection for another god knows how many years. Apparently it's locked away in a vault, ballistics evidence?
Read discussionI like Ventura, he does seem to go OTT at times but the topics/issues he raises are good and mostly well thought through.
I read somewhere that he had a TV show banned, I guess the elitists of the world don't like to hear the truth.
Read discussionI read somewhere that he had a TV show banned, I guess the elitists of the world don't like to hear the truth.
Welcome CTR nice to see you here,
Agree on points 1 and 2
Jesse Ventura is fine to a point but he's not someone I look up to as a cutting edge truther. In fairness I don't keep tabs on him these days.
Harold (aka HB :)
Read discussionAgree on points 1 and 2
Jesse Ventura is fine to a point but he's not someone I look up to as a cutting edge truther. In fairness I don't keep tabs on him these days.
Harold (aka HB :)
Hey chris welcome to the site, regarding the question about ventura I am kinda unsure, some of his topics are spot on and some I do not agree with, I think his son tyrel ventura is a lot more open minded than his father, I remember ventura tried to belittle david icke (that is why I am unsure about him)and icke stormed off, then a few months later tyrel had icke on his radio show and apologized to icke then listened to what icke was saying, so I am 50/50 on him.
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