15 Mar 2020 11:10:57
What if the sleepers don't have sky?
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15 Mar 2020 11:35:12
Think it was because they were talking about the budget being a more green budget this year with a lot more money spent on solar energy.
Read discussionThink it was because they were talking about the budget being a more green budget this year with a lot more money spent on solar energy.
15 Mar 2020 11:29:56
You're absolutely right Southampton. But if you said that with the bus thing I bet 70% of the population would do it. Is it because we are taught not to question things and blindly follow (plus walking around sedated by alcohol and coffee) - probably. Or because the majority are too stupid/ apathetic to find out - also probably.
Read discussionYou're absolutely right Southampton. But if you said that with the bus thing I bet 70% of the population would do it. Is it because we are taught not to question things and blindly follow (plus walking around sedated by alcohol and coffee) - probably. Or because the majority are too stupid/ apathetic to find out - also probably.
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Southern Monkey · 15 Mar 2020 06:03
Southern Monkey · 15 Mar 2020 06:0314 Mar 2020 20:04:57
If you are correct, the only reason to put it out on Sky News to me suggests activating sleepers. Mk Ultra.
Read discussionIf you are correct, the only reason to put it out on Sky News to me suggests activating sleepers. Mk Ultra.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 14 Mar 2020 16:24
Southern Monkey · 14 Mar 2020 16:2414 Mar 2020 17:11:30
Proving everything the government does is a sleight of hand, hiding the true agenda?
Pretty weird this, though.
Read discussionProving everything the government does is a sleight of hand, hiding the true agenda?
Pretty weird this, though.
14 Mar 2020 13:29:57
Alf, i think its a simple concept like this.
Power is knowledge. If u seem to have the answers to the wierd and mysterious.
People who don't know, who can't be bothered, people who are pre occupied.
Will listen and blindly follow.
Now if we think of are we a creation or worthless accident.
Either u believe an explosion from nothing created everything, or something created it.
Who knows? But what we do KNOW is.
They teach unproven theory as fact,
And give cgi and math to use as proof of fact.
And they do know of what there doing.
That is like jumping in front of a bus because someone said its good and you'll be safe doing it lol.
Read discussionAlf, i think its a simple concept like this.
Power is knowledge. If u seem to have the answers to the wierd and mysterious.
People who don't know, who can't be bothered, people who are pre occupied.
Will listen and blindly follow.
Now if we think of are we a creation or worthless accident.
Either u believe an explosion from nothing created everything, or something created it.
Who knows? But what we do KNOW is.
They teach unproven theory as fact,
And give cgi and math to use as proof of fact.
And they do know of what there doing.
That is like jumping in front of a bus because someone said its good and you'll be safe doing it lol.
14 Mar 2020 12:07:05
Yes, Wernher von Braun also left a message on his gravestone referring to us living in an enclosed system.
Read discussionYes, Wernher von Braun also left a message on his gravestone referring to us living in an enclosed system.
14 Mar 2020 12:10:27
Yes that's the vid ed.
Nice find and interesting info.
Read discussionYes that's the vid ed.
Nice find and interesting info.
14 Mar 2020 09:31:26
Is it about fooling people though or just going with the most widely accepted theory and teaching it as fact? This has always been the case partly because the majority of the population couldn't cope with the actual facts and need some definitive answers to stop them panicking. Deep thinkers like yourselves can cope with the fact that the answers are far from clear cut but I'd say 80% of people just need someone to tell them what to do and to follow.
Read discussionIs it about fooling people though or just going with the most widely accepted theory and teaching it as fact? This has always been the case partly because the majority of the population couldn't cope with the actual facts and need some definitive answers to stop them panicking. Deep thinkers like yourselves can cope with the fact that the answers are far from clear cut but I'd say 80% of people just need someone to tell them what to do and to follow.
14 Mar 2020 02:49:31
Good vid Ed have seen this before,
Wot do u think about this?
Read discussionGood vid Ed have seen this before,
Wot do u think about this?
14 Mar 2020 02:58:28
There is a pattern. that is a spiral type pattern that many believe to be of intelligent design,
in everything organic.
There was also a vid I see that had negative words and positive words,
Repeated in to a machine that froze ice crystals, and positive words let the crystals freeze as u see them naturally do.
But the negative words did the opposite.
Best reply I could manage SM.
Read discussionThere is a pattern. that is a spiral type pattern that many believe to be of intelligent design,
in everything organic.
There was also a vid I see that had negative words and positive words,
Repeated in to a machine that froze ice crystals, and positive words let the crystals freeze as u see them naturally do.
But the negative words did the opposite.
Best reply I could manage SM.
Reply · Southern Monkey · 13 Mar 2020 18:49
Southern Monkey · 13 Mar 2020 18:4913 Mar 2020 19:21:48
Haha, yes, now come on now. I want a full explanation for each an every one, Ed.
In seriousness. I am just writing my thoughts/ opinions, that I, myself question and it seemed appropriate to put a (? ) .
Feel free to answer with your opinions/ thoughts, though, man. This is a talk site. You may not have the answers but you may stir them. :)
Read discussionHaha, yes, now come on now. I want a full explanation for each an every one, Ed.
In seriousness. I am just writing my thoughts/ opinions, that I, myself question and it seemed appropriate to put a (? ) .
Feel free to answer with your opinions/ thoughts, though, man. This is a talk site. You may not have the answers but you may stir them. :)
Reply · Southern Monkey · 13 Mar 2020 17:47
Southern Monkey · 13 Mar 2020 17:4713 Mar 2020 18:26:04
Really interesting, Ed. Surely an 'elite' nightmare as it potentially looks like free energy? : The hydrogen is reused and the electricity created is split into external output electricity and internal input electricity which is used to actually run the machine itself. (I don't know if the output is solely enough to run the machine without drawing a primary power source as well?, but why would you split it if it wasn't enough? ) .
Also interesting that it 'self-organises'. Does this sugest some sort of self awareness?
Just seems like something else that will be suppressed or sabotaged by the 'elite' so they can keep pretending they need to spend billions on false hypothesises that will never work. Basically piling the debt on 'We the People'
I am keeping an eye on this one though.
safireproject.com/index.html
One of the first bits of text I came across on their website was:
"The current hypothesis for the origin and functioning of the sun is the gravity-driven ‘Thermonuclear’ model. It is taught in every school on Earth. It has never been proven."
Sounds about right. Fool the kids and the adults become sheep just following the herd thinking they know it all, when really they are given unproven falsehoods they believe wholeheartedly to be true. We all know that this makes them call anyone against or questioning said falsehoods, 'crazy'.
This 'electric sun hypothesis' has been proven to work or rather, all the evidence to date shows there are no disparities with the 'electric sun hypothesis'. Where as they 'gravity-driven' model has never been and can not be tested.
In my mind I am really beginning to believe that, there is a conscious, of sorts, in everything. (Rupert Sheldrake has some compelling talks on this subject) . And the way I am thinking of it ties in with what Nikola Tesla believed. "If you want to understand the universe think of energy, frequency and vibration"
If everything had conscious and this somehow was all connected, the amount of connective pathways would be insane. We could even be talking somewhere in the region of 'Graham's Number'.
If you think of this as a brain type structure, could this not be the 'intelligent creator'? and the reason we have never bore witness too is because 'they' are everything? . Can't see the wood from all the trees? . Food for thought.
Read discussionReally interesting, Ed. Surely an 'elite' nightmare as it potentially looks like free energy? : The hydrogen is reused and the electricity created is split into external output electricity and internal input electricity which is used to actually run the machine itself. (I don't know if the output is solely enough to run the machine without drawing a primary power source as well?, but why would you split it if it wasn't enough? ) .
Also interesting that it 'self-organises'. Does this sugest some sort of self awareness?
Just seems like something else that will be suppressed or sabotaged by the 'elite' so they can keep pretending they need to spend billions on false hypothesises that will never work. Basically piling the debt on 'We the People'
I am keeping an eye on this one though.
safireproject.com/index.html
One of the first bits of text I came across on their website was:
"The current hypothesis for the origin and functioning of the sun is the gravity-driven ‘Thermonuclear’ model. It is taught in every school on Earth. It has never been proven."
Sounds about right. Fool the kids and the adults become sheep just following the herd thinking they know it all, when really they are given unproven falsehoods they believe wholeheartedly to be true. We all know that this makes them call anyone against or questioning said falsehoods, 'crazy'.
This 'electric sun hypothesis' has been proven to work or rather, all the evidence to date shows there are no disparities with the 'electric sun hypothesis'. Where as they 'gravity-driven' model has never been and can not be tested.
In my mind I am really beginning to believe that, there is a conscious, of sorts, in everything. (Rupert Sheldrake has some compelling talks on this subject) . And the way I am thinking of it ties in with what Nikola Tesla believed. "If you want to understand the universe think of energy, frequency and vibration"
If everything had conscious and this somehow was all connected, the amount of connective pathways would be insane. We could even be talking somewhere in the region of 'Graham's Number'.
If you think of this as a brain type structure, could this not be the 'intelligent creator'? and the reason we have never bore witness too is because 'they' are everything? . Can't see the wood from all the trees? . Food for thought.
12 Mar 2020 13:19:11
I can't agree with this. You would only see the sun's path curve if you were off planet otherwise unless it veers off course then the trajectory would appear straight. Besides, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth in the globe model - the earth revolves around the sun which is fixed and it is the rotation of the earth that creates the illusion that the sun is moving.
Read discussionI can't agree with this. You would only see the sun's path curve if you were off planet otherwise unless it veers off course then the trajectory would appear straight. Besides, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth in the globe model - the earth revolves around the sun which is fixed and it is the rotation of the earth that creates the illusion that the sun is moving.
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HoneyBadger · 09 Mar 2020 18:53
HoneyBadger · 09 Mar 2020 18:5309 Mar 2020 19:34:01
We have the power to change our physical reality that exists around us by tapping into our true nature (of mind and soul, as well as body) . We are not helpless nor insignificant as they have us believe. So yes, I would say the controllers are working hard to keep this from us in order to keep us as submissive as possible. An elite goal to control our hearts and minds.
Not that I'm claiming to have broken fully free of the system, far from it. But my opinion is that by coming to the above understanding then helping others to do the same - this is our best chance of breaking free.
It seems to be a case of spiritual warfare playing out in front of us.
Read discussionWe have the power to change our physical reality that exists around us by tapping into our true nature (of mind and soul, as well as body) . We are not helpless nor insignificant as they have us believe. So yes, I would say the controllers are working hard to keep this from us in order to keep us as submissive as possible. An elite goal to control our hearts and minds.
Not that I'm claiming to have broken fully free of the system, far from it. But my opinion is that by coming to the above understanding then helping others to do the same - this is our best chance of breaking free.
It seems to be a case of spiritual warfare playing out in front of us.
09 Mar 2020 09:57:06
What happens when you see through the fakery and break free as you put it? Do you think any of the controllers would really care if any of us saw through them as long as the masses dont?
Read discussionWhat happens when you see through the fakery and break free as you put it? Do you think any of the controllers would really care if any of us saw through them as long as the masses dont?
09 Mar 2020 09:20:32
Fake as you can get.
Read discussionFake as you can get.
Reply · HoneyBadger · 08 Mar 2020 13:22
HoneyBadger · 08 Mar 2020 13:2208 Mar 2020 13:37:38
I agree Ed033 the universe is created and so are we. The version of reality being fed to us paints mankind as insignificant - which is a major fallacy in my eyes. The scientific theory of evolution has us being the result of a purely mechanistic process with no purpose or meaning.
The current thinking about space has us placed in a tiny corner of an unimaginably vast realm. These perspectives keep the masses in an illusion of total insignificance but the truth is we are far from that. We are very powerful beings but TPTB don't want us realising that.
Read discussionI agree Ed033 the universe is created and so are we. The version of reality being fed to us paints mankind as insignificant - which is a major fallacy in my eyes. The scientific theory of evolution has us being the result of a purely mechanistic process with no purpose or meaning.
The current thinking about space has us placed in a tiny corner of an unimaginably vast realm. These perspectives keep the masses in an illusion of total insignificance but the truth is we are far from that. We are very powerful beings but TPTB don't want us realising that.
08 Mar 2020 04:26:26
Southern monkey. It is not hard to understand why the images are edited. The scale we are talking about is huge. It's like taking a panoramic photo on your phone. It needs to be edited for you to see an actual image rather than a whole lot of nothing.
Read discussionSouthern monkey. It is not hard to understand why the images are edited. The scale we are talking about is huge. It's like taking a panoramic photo on your phone. It needs to be edited for you to see an actual image rather than a whole lot of nothing.
Reply · HoneyBadger · 07 Mar 2020 17:20
HoneyBadger · 07 Mar 2020 17:2007 Mar 2020 17:47:17
Yes, almost like they need our consent Ed033 so they leave things as possible to work out. The interesting thing for me though is that when you see through all the deception and get to the ultimate truth - we get the knowledge that we need to empower us and to break free from the system/ matrix that they built around us.
Or at least that's how it seems to me. This is where the lines between good/ evil and light/ dark become blurred. Because by understanding the darkness we can get through to the light, that is the truth about reality.
Read discussionYes, almost like they need our consent Ed033 so they leave things as possible to work out. The interesting thing for me though is that when you see through all the deception and get to the ultimate truth - we get the knowledge that we need to empower us and to break free from the system/ matrix that they built around us.
Or at least that's how it seems to me. This is where the lines between good/ evil and light/ dark become blurred. Because by understanding the darkness we can get through to the light, that is the truth about reality.