11 Oct 2015 01:45:01 Dunno how true this is but read that ed Snowden disclosed that bin laden is still alive and on 100k a month by the cia and living in the Bahamas now.
09 Oct 2015 17:11:53 Its not like it was totally covered up (corbyn's view) because the daily mail covered it, its the fact nobody else went near it that makes me suspicious.
I believe bin Laden was dead long before his official death but they needed us to think he was still alive as justification for some of the action in the middle east. I love that we were told his body was immediately thrown into the sea 'out of respect for his faith' - you couldn't write it and it would be funny if it wasn't so bad.
Whether or not he worked directly for the CIA I think they clearly used him as a pawn in the whole thing, having firstly aided him and his friends for years.
The media is used to turn guys like Bin Laden, Putin, Gaddafi and Saddam into James bond style evil villains who want nothing more than to cause harm to humanity as a whole. Then the sheep in the west will happily give their blessing to whatever type of military action they are sold as the 'solution' to these bad guys.
17 Sep 2015 21:34:06 Yes franky I know I used to hand over funds from Moscow to certain figures in both the labour party and the trades unions.
The point is any party contains a spectrum moving from the extreme to the centre. Corybn is firmly on the extreme of the party. The blairite faction is supposedly towards the centre.
And yes I agree with the other guy regards parties having too much power and influence.
17 Sep 2015 20:48:42 I meant to add that the party system breeds corruption via funding and lobbying. Then you get groomed politicians being given safe seats and generally helped up the greasy pole. Scrapping the parties could rid us of much of this corruption, funding would need to be 100% transparent unlike todays system.
17 Sep 2015 20:40:15 If I was in charge I would scrap the parties altogether, make everyone independent and therefore directly accountable to their local constituents. No more mp's towing the part line, no more us versus them mentality - just everyone working together to get their local issues represented fairly no matter whether a policy is seen as left or right wing.
Obviously this would never happen as the elite need for us to be in a constant battle against each other (whilst they do as the please) rather than working together for the common good.
17 Sep 2015 20:20:01 what I meant kim was, the LAB party has always been left wing apart from the last 20 years but the press are making it out that he has gone like starlin like.
17 Sep 2015 17:27:07 It seems that the leftness in the last election wasn't the problem but the fact that labour were too centre and with the election of Corbyn if he can be defined in his manifesto he,ll pick up a lot of lost labour voters plus many of the floating votes. radio 4. Game on 😀
17 Sep 2015 16:47:53 I agree with you franky in as much as I'm just glad he opens peoples eyes to a different option/opinions, hopefully he will at least wake a few people up along the way. I can't see him ever getting into power because of the corrupt system but I'm glad we don't have the likes of Andy Burnham as the 'alternative' choice as he comes across like a generic career politician, no different in that sense to Cameron, Clegg, Blair etc.
17 Sep 2015 16:28:39 The theory, and I don't subscribe to it myself, is that corbyn is there as a far left leader to panic the rest of the party into accepting a leader seen as less far left wing than corbyn but still more left wing than the party would have originally wanted. And also someone that is totally in the pocket of the unions. Which corbyn isn't.
On a side note if you have the time i'd suggest you look up Ron Hayward. Interesting figure in the labour party. And from there Alec kitson.
17 Sep 2015 15:58:36 corbyn is not the answer , never has been and your right the system is corrupt that is why you need a person like corbyn to identify the corruption .
RoscoJEF · 11 Oct 2015 05:11
