I agree on neo nazi stuff but all this anti Semitic stuff only really seems to get mentioned when genuine people like myself question my local mp party on subjects like gaza, I think the term is flame thread, where someone will ask a serious question then you seem to get all of these neo nazis groups crop up out of the woodwork then the question gets lost and cast to one side, as a former judge tweeted to me that " fellow-Zionist, John Mann, is pushing for those with anti-Zionist views etc to be banned from using the Internet".
me personally think these neo nazi groups are staged and paid for to recruit persons and use them when needed.
09 Nov 2014 10:58:33 There's a difference between expressing your concerns to your 'democratically' elected representatives and sending vile filth. If they are neo nazis then that's good they've been arrested, I despise neo nazis.
Heard the same about the Metro centre in Gateshead- wallet found, handed into the security office. Woman was leaving and a man had gone in, got the wallet back, caught up with the lass outside, and thanked her. Told her not to be near the Metro in a years time.
06 Nov 2014 18:20:28 Franky in Intel nothing is too strange. One of the first things they teach is there is no such thing as coincidence. Suspect everything trust nothing. Its better to be safe than sorry there is always another new years eve.
06 Nov 2014 15:57:31 The security services have people whose job is to monitor current public feelings in countries. The British have long been known as arabists. The arab spring wouldn't have been a surprise to anyone at 6, especially if they gave it a helping hand, which I suspect.
Funny enough since my daughter has been in oz I do the odd search of the current news in brisbane and there definitely seems to be a step up of terrorist related stories in there msm, so its in the public memory and its only hightened when the most powerful people in the world arrive next week, to my knowledge australia have never had a terrorist attack on its home soil, we have seen recently canada have a incident, so is this a build up to what's going down?makes you think this muslim man (who spoke with a ozzy accent)could have been intelligence rather than a would be terrorist as I said in my other post I could not see a terrorist giving someone the heads up when she has had his details.
sounds far fetched this post I know but I had to post itand regardless I will try to advise my daughter to swerve new years eve in those city centers, but trying to change the mind of a soon to be 23 year old stubborn girl I think I have more chance to get prince phillip to admit he is a scrounger.
I get that it gets bandered around that something might happen on a certain date, but why would he mention two citiess in australia and not the city there are in (brisbane)?been thinking about it, could he have ment that because they are not from oz that they would be better away from brisb/sydney? racking my brain, then again if he knew anything I don't suppose he would say something like that knowing that my daughters mate knows his details and stuff, my daughter has said everyone who is a ozzy is anxious in general about these terrorists warnings as its new to them, who knows like the poster said could be nothing in it.
Isn't this the same story that goes around most years since 9/11? Usually same set up but stay away from meadowhall /Trafford center/blue water on certain dates in the lead up to Xmas? Wouldn't worry about it at all the story would never have happened
No reason to kick yourself Franky. Same goes for Ryan and myself for that matter.
Career politicians are trained in the use of rhetoric. They can tell which buttons to push and which to avoid. How to beautify, promote and coerce one into identifying with establishment agenda, while simultaneously suppressing doubt. They are well versed in the use of trigger words, pretentious compassion and self-righteousness.
If one spent their life playing poker without cards, one would be expected to have mastered bluffing, misdirection and reading another's tells. I doubt anyone here spends their time contemplating how to better manipulate others, so it's not really a fair fight.
After reading her response a couple more times, I realize that one could write an essay on her honed use of rhetoric. As for the rant mode you referred to, it is a natural defense mechanism triggered by one's perception of being manipulated while not yet realizing in what way, how and to what end. Noticing it is the first step in not letting it happen again. zari
Luciana berger is my local mp and I have always know she is Jewish which is no big deal alone because plenty of Jewish people are fed up of this and just want peace, but I have been doing a bit more digging about her since that email (should have done it before I replied) and here are a few facts.
1 she was member of the National Union of Students she resigned from the Executive Committee, accusing other NEC members of anti-Semitism
2 she appeared on a Radio Five Live show which also featured Kelvin MacKenzie, editor of that vile paper, when everyone from liverpool let there feelings known to her about it she claimed she never knew he was going to be on the program, simple answer is to walk out when she did find out, no excuse.
3 Berger was the Director of Labour Friends of Israel for 3 years, but stepped down before the 2010 general election to stand in Liverpool.
to her credit Berger was being criticised by the Jewish community in Liverpool and supporters of Israel for not using her position to defend the country for the sake of career advancement. After sixteen months in parliament, she had not mentioned Israel in any of her parliamentary interventions.
conclusion her roots are firmly behind israel but she knows the majority of people in this country who have seen the images from gaza find it offensive anyone codoning what israel did.
i am kicking myself I did not give a better reply to her email, I should have been more measured and pulled her up on some of the things she put on her email, instead I went in to rant mode.
I agree with Ed001 on this. How would demilitarizing Palestine while allowing Israel to maintain a nuclear arsenal restore balance to the area and serve as the foundation of long-lasting peace between Israel and Palestine?
Also, why would Britain have an important role to play in a conflict so far away from their own borders? Were the Palestinians informed and have they agreed to this? Based on the British establishment's track record, Palestine would become another establishment colony in one way or another (monetary, geostrategic etc. ).
Additionally, I wonder what she considers a democratic state to be. When one has no notion of what democracy is how could they ever help others organize in such a way? A ludicrous concept if I ever encountered one.
Lastly, I think the word that deserves the most attention in her email is "viable". What does she perceive as a "viable" Palestinian state? I bet if one asked her, she would mutter something along the lines of "delicate situations, sensitive issues and complicated matters" without ever offering an explanation.
Politicians are actors that only do tragedies. Seeing as this is the age of comedy, the sooner we rid of them the sooner our laughter will rise to the sky. zari
Well done Franky. Her answer is quite considered and reassuring. And you're right of course, if millions were writing letters/emails, they would have to give it lengthier consideration.
All these cases now have only highlighted what goes on in the establishment and it's sad to say this, but the horse has bolted on this inquiry as most of them will be dead one way or another. It's what's going on now with current politicians/police/judges who are doing the same thing now, that is the good thing about this inquiry.
It's highlighted that people who should have children's best interests at heart are abusing them. Take for interest now, George Osborne has been outed in the alternative media for his prostitute and cocaine habit and certain MP friends of his have a liking for young black boys.
Since Natalie Rowe went public about it, she has got the same treatment as Chris Spivey with harassment and fake charges that have no substance. These are the vermin who should be part of this new inquiry and hopefully the Leon Brittain mob will meet their karma in a different timeline.
Is Leon Brittan the next Jimmy Savile, Franky?Drag this out until he dies from a 'natural' heart attack/stroke then pile as much blame as possible on him. The sheeple will then think that's the end of it, the baddies have been caught. Not that Savile was a patsy or scapegoat but the way it's being made out he worked alone and nobody knew what he was up to. You can blame the dead for anything, they're not going to answer anything are they.
Yeah unbelievable that is why I think the establishment know this will eventually come out but like Hillsborough it will drag on and on, because leon brittan is not a young man if he was then I would expect mr brittan to have an accident or take his own life, one thing I would do is sack or charge fiona may for her role in this, in my eyes she know is as guilty as those who are accused.
frankyscouser · 09 Nov 2014 10:51
