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Reply · p1 · 16 Jun 2021 18:55
16 Jun 2021 19:06:10
What you think about that picture hsf?
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Reply · p1 · 16 Jun 2021 17:47
16 Jun 2021 18:09:01
Isn't there a bridge which was built with curvature taken into account and it looks wrong on every level.

Think its this one Verrazano-Narrows Bridge:

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Reply · Peteprice · 14 Jun 2021 22:19
14 Jun 2021 22:25:14
I'm in the middle of building a 2.8km road, not once have we had to take into account the curvature of the earth for any excavation nor is it ever taken to account regardless of the length of the trench we would dig.
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Reply · Rian · 14 Jun 2021 18:06
14 Jun 2021 18:52:29
But the keyword here is 'proven' - thank you.

You want to tell me the Earth is flat - I've never told anyone the earth is flat. Pay attention.

Thanks for all the Bob stories, I had a lovely nap. Normally I have to go to the boxing page for that.
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Reply · hsf · 14 Jun 2021 13:41
14 Jun 2021 14:23:47
No Rian not at all. Conclusive evidence is something which can not be contested. Hense the word "conclusive".

My view is fixed? Considering there are many subjects which I have a differing view to leading scientists (Such as the age of Human Civilisation), I'd hardly say I have a fixed view.

I am very open to being proven wrong. But the keyword here is 'proven', and none of the replies posted on here to counter anything I say (regarding the flat earth) has no evidence backing it. It's just some random guy posting about things that are against the laws of physics.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

You want to tell me the Earth is flat, when all of the science and mathematics point to a spherical Earth then I need extraordinary evidence. Not some random guy who claims to be a "scientist" but it turns out he's a "doctor" in alternative medicine. AKA woowoo rubbish that doesn't cure anyone.

Let me put it to you another way.

Say you needed life changing surgery, would you go to a Hospital or would you go to Bob down the pub who knows a bit about anatomy because he watches some medical dramas?

If your house starts to collapse at the foundations, would you go to a building contractor or would you go to Bob down the pub who's built a Brick BBQ in his back yard?

If your car has broken down, would you go to a mechanic or would you go to Bob down the pub, who talks about F1 Racing a lot?

Honestly, the trust that you put into these people who are nothing to do with the real subjects they go against, is beyond mind boggling. Why? These people are clearly idiots.
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Reply · Rian · 13 Jun 2021 16:57
13 Jun 2021 16:36:57
hsf I think you cannot (or perhaps refuse to) differentiate between evidence and proof. Conclusive evidence is no more than a definite possibility. They're just words without any real value.

You have a very fixed view of the things generally. Your need for absolutes and certainties is very evident. If that's the kind of intellectual scaffolding you need to stay upright then best of luck to you.
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Reply · Southern Monkey · 06 Feb 2020 21:21
06 Feb 2020 20:26:11
hsf. You do realise a theory is just that. A theory.

A theory, whether supported by the MS or not, is still a theory and not truth. Believing in that would be no different than believing in a God, that you so brashly dismiss.

And how do you know how old the pyramids are? . 5000 years? Isn't this too, a theory? .

And if you don't understand what is to be gained by the elite who control the MSBS, there is no hope for you, my friend. These are not the pages you are looking for.
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Reply · hsf · 04 Feb 2020 16:59
04 Feb 2020 17:53:47
I have considered the possibility Rian. And regarding things like God there is no right or wrong answer, yet. And I am free of the programming.

I don't adhere to most things commercial or conformist. For example I rather enjoy Death Metal and wear baggy clothes. I don't watch TV, listen to the radio or read mainstream news papers. I also differ in opinion to the MS archaeology when it comes to ancient Egypt, I think there is very good evidence to suggest that they weren't built 5,000 years ago but refurbished during that time period and built much earlier.
Here is a link to one of the bits of evidence for this, if you wish.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphinx_water_erosion_hypothesis

SM. The Younger Dryas theory has only been mainstream for a year or two and was vehemently dismissed until the discovery of a 31 kilometer wide crater under Greenlands ice. Randall Carlson has been at the forefront of this theory and almost lost his career because of it.
youtube.com/watch?v=R31SXuFeX0A
I know it's Joe Rogan and he's not exactly popular on here, but Randall Carlson is very interesting to listen to.

What is it you believe the mainstream have to gain from saying these things? Just curious to know, not going to try and trash you reasoning or anything.
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Reply · Rian · 04 Feb 2020 11:16
04 Feb 2020 08:18:28
What if you’re wrong hsf? Have you considered the possibility? Free yourself from the programming. Most people here are looking for the truth. Right or wrong doesn’t really come into it.
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Reply · Southern Monkey · 03 Feb 2020 22:09
03 Feb 2020 21:59:09
Just to point out something regarding your example in your response to question 3, hsf.

You are just replacing ancient stories apparently told for thousands of years and believed by most of the inhabitants of this planet, with stories from MS science.

There are no cold hard facts to either. You either believe what you are told or you don't.

You will probably reply with something like "they explain this and that and it all makes sense". (this and that is poetic license to shorten this post :) )

But there are people that have done studies on crazy possibilities, like for instance, the recent study on fallen Titans that Ed033 posted. Watch that series of 6-7 videos. You may not believe it but the evidence is there if you want to believe.

That is kind of my point really. You have to take a leap of faith, of sorts, in whatever you believe. It's just that I think the people in charge of the stories in the mainstream have the most to gain from whatever they want to tell us.
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Reply · hsf · 03 Feb 2020 10:29
03 Feb 2020 11:03:40
Rian, I'm just interested in the other side of the fence's views, why they believe in them and what would they do if they are wrong. There is nothing narrow minded about that, I'm not looking to try and prove people wrong. Maybe I'm wrong but I figured narrow minded views were ones which fail to acknowledge the concept of there being a different answer/ view/ theory etc?

SM.

1). No.

2). None.

3). Misinterpretations. I think there are a lot of stories from holy books that are very similar to one another, from different time periods and different parts of the world. I personally think that the majority of stories may well be true, but I think a lot can be explained by things like asteroid or comet impacts and extra-solar phenomenen.

For example, approximately 13,000 years ago a comet impacted Greenland. This caused mass flooding on several continents, caused the whole of north america to set fire and almost ended human life on the planet. It's estimated that we may have gone down to as little as 100,000 in population globally!

4). Of course.

5). I'm not going to lie, it would take quite a bit to convince me that God is real. Simply because of how Gods are depicted in the different cultures. So for this I would say I need to see God do something from one of the holy books, like part the sea or bring something that's been dead for 3 days back to life.
There are things which would make me more open to the idea, seeing some genuine paranormal activity like a ghost that just randomly throws my quilt off my bed, would definitely make me think twice.

6). If God came to me and parted the sea before my eyes as an example of proof, my next step would be to ask what I need to do in life. Then whatever was said to me would be exactly what I'd do. I mean I'd have no choice really.
But if it was proven that God isn't real and what I believe in also turned out to be false, then I'd just wait for evidence to point me in the right direction.
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Reply · Southern Monkey · 02 Feb 2020 20:28
02 Feb 2020 21:24:17
What are your answers to these questions you write, hsf?

1. I believe there are things at play that are beyond my comprehension and if I say anymore it will be pure conjecture. I guess I believe in seeking the truth.

2. conjecture

3. Not a direct answer but there seems to be similar concepts in all religions the main one I think of is the 'Great Flood'. I'm of the belief antediluvian history is being hidden from us all. I can only assume hiding anything has an evil purpose and it is controlling information which creates a lack of trust.

4. I will happily admit I am wrong when shown to be so. As I have previously stated. I seek the truth.

5. The truth, if against my opinion, would prove me wrong.
The only person to have supposedly met God in mortal form is Enoch. Maybe read his book. Although it is non-canonical. (Why is that? )

6. I always except and humbly turn to the truth.
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Reply · Rian · 02 Feb 2020 20:22
02 Feb 2020 21:19:35
You said wrong 4 times HSF. How can anyone even begin to consider the the concept of God within such a rigid and narrow mindset? You have such a black and white view of the world it’s a wonder you even bother to come on here.
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Reply · Rian · 23 Aug 2019 13:42
23 Aug 2019 14:07:44
Hope you'll allow me to copy and paste a terrific comment below this on youtube by Scott Tracy Ed033.

(The Science Report) was a legit and popular science programme which aired fortnightly on anglia independent tv in the UK. It was a good programme that showed cutting edge information that the establishment frequently frowned upon. I rarely missed an episode, and I certainly didn't miss this one, all the facts you see on this episode are TRUE some 38 yrs later.
If this programme is BS then why did British Parliament pass laws the very next day to preview and censor all future tv material they deemed not satisfactory for the public.

Actors role played the characters because many of them were not around anymore? and some were reluctant to say anything. All 3 of these ALTERNATIVES are being carried out to this day.

ALTERNATIVE 1.

Sky- Chemtrails
Water- Fluoride, Pesticides, Radioactive Particulate etc
Food- GMO's, Pesticide, Nano Bacteria etc
Vaccination- Mercury, Aluminium, Formaldehyde (antigens made from animal DNA) to endless to mention

Cancer rates before the 1980s were 1 in 30. Today they are 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women and this is just cancer folks, don't mention auto immune diseases, allergies etc, THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT WOULD THEY?
Your Government is the ultimate obscenity and betrays all of you, (As in the words of Sting- There is no political solution) that has always been the case except for a few.


ALTERNATIVE 2.

There are an estimated 1480+ underground bases and cities as at 1987 to cater for the break-away society who are among us and off world.


ALTERNATIVE 3.

There is documented evidence that has shown that we have already gone way beyond the boundaries of our solar system. We have semi-conductors even in the public domain that are producing computing technology that is almost self aware and yet we are still driving around in cars with INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES, even though the EV-1 electric car was released in 1996 and crushed a few years later. (People Grow a Brain) and take a look around you, we have a financial system run by the central banks that is the biggest ponzy scam in history that has been ongoing for around 6000 years and your still buying into it
The part played by Bob Grodin is aka:- Buzz Aldrin even though he has gone from pillar to post ever since.

The book was released by Leslie Watkins 2 years AFTER the episode that was aired and the follow up novel was stolen during transit to New Zealand. This information was given by many for leslie to publish as to hide it's origins.

This program was done back in the day when real (INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM) was the norm instead of the current large scale brainwashing by the MSM and endless so called (Reality TV Shows) .
I believe once the (science report) started looking into Britain and the Worlds brain drain the order was given to can the series so they went out with a bang knowing they were done anyway. There is information around that indicates once they looked into people disappearing some came forward giving the information about the people and off world programs.

In finishing, the worlds elite are puppets to the real architects who have been with us for as long as we have existed and who probably engineered us. Some high ranking politicians and leaders may be in on this but definitely not all. Switch off your TV sets or throw them out, they not only brainwash you but also control you. Above all keep an open mind and never dismiss anything out of hand, TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AROUND YOU AND KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN and read as much as you can stand, time is fast running out and if you believe all this so called terrorism you have already lost, it is simply overseas empire building to further the NWO's desired end outcome. The truth is so much stranger and harder to comprehend in this instance.
As in the words of the song:- WELCOME TO YOUR NIGHTMARE.
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Reply · duccablue · 23 Aug 2019 07:07
23 Aug 2019 06:04:25
That was very entertaining and, not a little, revealing. Brilliantly done.
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Reply · p1 · 09 Nov 2017 05:29
08 Nov 2017 23:27:38
Was there not more windows or port holes on one of them can't remember which. But surely that proves which one sank.
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Reply · LEP72 · 30 Oct 2017 16:38
30 Oct 2017 15:21:14
Hi, ED33
I have come across a new theory in why the Titanic sank. I was watching a link you had posted called EUROPA-The Last Battle (part 1) when at 14-35, they talk about 3 powerful men worth billions that went against the establishment regarding the Federal Reserve and just so happened to be on the Titanic. The 3 men lost there lives on board the ship and so to the opposition to the Reserve. As you know Ed there is plenty of people who have lost their lives in Air, Sea and Motor accidents.
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Reply · hsf · 23 Oct 2017 08:06
23 Oct 2017 03:01:10
I don't know about the whole human sacrifice thing, but it definitely looks like it's been switched. The pictures especially from the under water shots compared to the pictures of the Olympic look very similar.
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Reply · southampton87 · 22 Aug 2017 00:33
21 Aug 2017 23:23:43
Sorry for not replying sooner
Yes that is what my opinion would be on these two.
ASwell ed
Thanks for replys.
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