01 May 2014 16:04:15
do I believe in god, simple answer no, its a fraud.
That basically the black and white of all religions mate. Well said!
Peace
Jay
Glasgow
Can you believe that subway are stopping the sale of bacon/ham because the Muslims are against it? It's ridiculous, they don't like it, so no one can have any. Disgusting. This country is going to the dogs for sure now. Because when one religious group gets a say, they'll all want their say!
Time for separation of church and state, leave the barbarism to the tall tale book fanatics!
Peace
Jay
Glasgow
Peace
Jay
Glasgow
Can you believe that subway are stopping the sale of bacon/ham because the Muslims are against it? It's ridiculous, they don't like it, so no one can have any. Disgusting. This country is going to the dogs for sure now. Because when one religious group gets a say, they'll all want their say!
Time for separation of church and state, leave the barbarism to the tall tale book fanatics!
Peace
Jay
Glasgow
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Subway without Ham where do I sign up for the EDL? Joke!
RM8
RM8
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Jay, read the full story mate.
I wasn't happy at first either but after reading the full story I understand why.
The areas they're going to stop selling it are highly populated with Muslims, and they (subway) aren't making any money from the Ham/ pork or Bacon that they're selling.
Halal meat is highly requested in those areas so it seems logical business wise to sell that.
JK92
I wasn't happy at first either but after reading the full story I understand why.
The areas they're going to stop selling it are highly populated with Muslims, and they (subway) aren't making any money from the Ham/ pork or Bacon that they're selling.
Halal meat is highly requested in those areas so it seems logical business wise to sell that.
JK92
{Ed007's Note - I don't know much about all this but does Halal mean only Muslims can handle the meat and prepare the food? I've tried to have a quick look but it's a lot to take in if you look at Halal in it's entirety. It takes me all my time to remember to eat fish on a Friday!}
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Religion is real that's unfortunate enough but, God do me a favour. I am sick of having it rammed down our throats and my child's mind filled with all the nonsense in school. God does not exist it is a fraud as franky said.
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I don't know about preparing it ed, but it's where the animal has it's throat cut. usually stunned first. still pretty gruesome if you ask me.
JK92
JK92
{Ed002's Note - Halal relates to all food and drink and covers the slaughter and preparation of the food. Animals must be slaughtered by a Muslim and in the name of Allah.}
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That's a fair point JK!
But surely not all those subways are only visited by Muslims? Everyone, well mostly everyone I know, visits subway quite occasionally and to not sell x product because one group doesn't like it is a bit farcical in my opinion. It's almost dictating what people can have! We cannot force our personal beliefs on the general public, we are a diverse bunch, so religion should stay far from state, very far. We can govern ourselves without religious persuasion. And we'd be better off for it!
Peace
Jay
Glasgow
But surely not all those subways are only visited by Muslims? Everyone, well mostly everyone I know, visits subway quite occasionally and to not sell x product because one group doesn't like it is a bit farcical in my opinion. It's almost dictating what people can have! We cannot force our personal beliefs on the general public, we are a diverse bunch, so religion should stay far from state, very far. We can govern ourselves without religious persuasion. And we'd be better off for it!
Peace
Jay
Glasgow
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It's only in Muslim rich areas Jay, so they're getting rid because nobody is buying the pork, bacon and ham.
It's all for financial gain, nothing to do with Muslims being unhappy about them selling the Porks.
JK92
It's all for financial gain, nothing to do with Muslims being unhappy about them selling the Porks.
JK92
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I think I should add my bit as I was part of Subway for 8 years hence my name. Someone I know (not a muslim) converted an average performing subway store to a Halal store a couple of years ago in not particularly a heavy muslim area. I'm not sure if it did much better but he did have to have the entire shop cleaned immaculately (and I'm not talking about a wipe round) then it had to be blessed to even be considered to qualify as a halal store. Subway will do anything directed by the American office to increase revenue (not profit) as it makes its money regardless from franchisees royalties wether they are making money or not, (nearly every subway store in the world is franchisee owned opposed to other companies, which is not great for franchisee's).
They are a typical pyramid and I have seen friends lose nearly everything if not everything surrounding vat and the "pasty tax" (which was introduced because of subway) because of their negligence and disregard for franchisee's. What has escaped the media is that Subway operate a similar tax avoidance scheme to starbucks and whoever else was in the news a couple of years ago through paying royalties to Holland then to Lichtenstein onto curucao ( dutch Caribbean I think) then I think onto America. Still don't know how it's remained the same. There is a lot more I can tell about withdrawn meats and products but I'm angry now and will carry on another time. Awful company.
Supasub
They are a typical pyramid and I have seen friends lose nearly everything if not everything surrounding vat and the "pasty tax" (which was introduced because of subway) because of their negligence and disregard for franchisee's. What has escaped the media is that Subway operate a similar tax avoidance scheme to starbucks and whoever else was in the news a couple of years ago through paying royalties to Holland then to Lichtenstein onto curucao ( dutch Caribbean I think) then I think onto America. Still don't know how it's remained the same. There is a lot more I can tell about withdrawn meats and products but I'm angry now and will carry on another time. Awful company.
Supasub
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