05 Sep 2023 23:06:46
Hi Ed’s, you can forget my last post and all the images I just uploaded, I’ve just found that someone on the internet has done an English translation of the book using Google lens that’s far easier and less hassle than the way i did it a few years ago.
So here you are: Proekt Orion, declassified “Top secret” USSR documents in English.
{Ed032's Note - Thanks, JE888. This looks like it will make very interesting reading, nice find. 👍
06 Sep 2023 17:39:24
I am only 20-30 pages in but it is not making much sense to me. I will work my way through it all but it seems more of a novel than 'Top Secret' info. This is nothing against you, JE888, I genuinely hope to find a few nuggets within. From what I have read so far, it all stinks of QBateBS.
Don't take my word for anything, though. Make your own mind/s up. I am happy to provide quality food for your essence to question and happy to bounce your ideas out of my thinking. That's the whole idea . right? The Truth is a playful one that likes to be chased, if you don't, it is never in your vision/field of view / PAD (Personal Atmospheric Dome)
I am only 20-30 pages in but it is not making much sense to me. I will work my way through it all but it seems more of a novel than 'Top Secret' info. This is nothing against you, JE888, I genuinely hope to find a few nuggets within. From what I have read so far, it all stinks of QBateBS.
Don't take my word for anything, though. Make your own mind/s up. I am happy to provide quality food for your essence to question and happy to bounce your ideas out of my thinking. That's the whole idea . right? The Truth is a playful one that likes to be chased, if you don't, it is never in your vision/field of view / PAD (Personal Atmospheric Dome)
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06 Sep 2023 19:07:26
I agree Ed032, I read it again last night with a more skeptical eye. It definitely reads like a novel in parts. I do think I noticed it when I read it last but put it down to a difference in cultures. There’s certainly some “scientific” parts which do go over my head, as I’m no scientist, I think the part on the artifacts is very interesting. The crystal skull in particular I found interesting. You’re not there yet though! Thanks for the feedback! Let me know if you get any further and what you think.
I agree Ed032, I read it again last night with a more skeptical eye. It definitely reads like a novel in parts. I do think I noticed it when I read it last but put it down to a difference in cultures. There’s certainly some “scientific” parts which do go over my head, as I’m no scientist, I think the part on the artifacts is very interesting. The crystal skull in particular I found interesting. You’re not there yet though! Thanks for the feedback! Let me know if you get any further and what you think.
{Ed032's Note - It has nothing 'scientific' in the realms of being scientific, expressed anywhere.
It is just words. Noise. But I haven't read it all, but I will scan through.
The way I look at it;
Today it is Putin but these documents where previous? but if I was Putin as the masked man puppet is portrayed, and some Russian laid these documents before me; Putin, and expected to live much longer?
All based on programmed logic sieved through an unprogrammed, free, mind.
It is just words. Noise. But I haven't read it all, but I will scan through.
The way I look at it;
Today it is Putin but these documents where previous? but if I was Putin as the masked man puppet is portrayed, and some Russian laid these documents before me; Putin, and expected to live much longer?
All based on programmed logic sieved through an unprogrammed, free, mind.
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06 Sep 2023 20:03:03
PS I’m not at all ruling out this could be intentional disinformation. When I first had it shared with me it was by a (supposed) small Russian channel that was sharing IR videos of the supposed planet X, and it was shortly shut down after. The document was deleted off Google drive soon after also. It was nowhere to be found when I searched probably 18 months ago. However last night I searched for the “Proekt Orion” and I found it on a Reddit page translated into English. That rang alarm bells for me if I’m honest. I know Reddit is heavily moderated and they delete anything that doesn’t fit their agenda.
However there’s a reason I believe in Planet X and why I gave the book credence when I first read it. A few years ago I was walking dog up a nearby hill with my younger brother. It was probably around 8 or 9 ish this sort of time of year I’m guessing, as it was still warm but dark early-ish. On the way back we both saw what I can only describe as a red planet in the sky. It wasn’t the moon, which was behind us, obviously it wasn’t the sun which had already set, evidenced by the fact it was dark, and this planet was visible to both of us for around 3-4 minutes. It soon dropped beyond the horizon, but whatever it was was large (bigger than the moon) bright red and glowing. The reason I found this book so fascinating is that it describes this Planet X as a large red planet made of iron oxide, and that it was supposed to enter our solar system around 2012. My brother and I saw this “planet” around 2017-2018 as a rough estimate. Also according to the book it is supposed to cause global catastrophes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions etc. all of which are happening at record rates. Anyway I know this isn’t entirely proof of Planet X, I’m honestly not sure what my brother and I saw that night, but it looked like a large red planet is all I can say.
PS I’m not at all ruling out this could be intentional disinformation. When I first had it shared with me it was by a (supposed) small Russian channel that was sharing IR videos of the supposed planet X, and it was shortly shut down after. The document was deleted off Google drive soon after also. It was nowhere to be found when I searched probably 18 months ago. However last night I searched for the “Proekt Orion” and I found it on a Reddit page translated into English. That rang alarm bells for me if I’m honest. I know Reddit is heavily moderated and they delete anything that doesn’t fit their agenda.
However there’s a reason I believe in Planet X and why I gave the book credence when I first read it. A few years ago I was walking dog up a nearby hill with my younger brother. It was probably around 8 or 9 ish this sort of time of year I’m guessing, as it was still warm but dark early-ish. On the way back we both saw what I can only describe as a red planet in the sky. It wasn’t the moon, which was behind us, obviously it wasn’t the sun which had already set, evidenced by the fact it was dark, and this planet was visible to both of us for around 3-4 minutes. It soon dropped beyond the horizon, but whatever it was was large (bigger than the moon) bright red and glowing. The reason I found this book so fascinating is that it describes this Planet X as a large red planet made of iron oxide, and that it was supposed to enter our solar system around 2012. My brother and I saw this “planet” around 2017-2018 as a rough estimate. Also according to the book it is supposed to cause global catastrophes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions etc. all of which are happening at record rates. Anyway I know this isn’t entirely proof of Planet X, I’m honestly not sure what my brother and I saw that night, but it looked like a large red planet is all I can say.
{Ed032's Note - You reference things as planets. Do you ba'alieve we live on a ba'al?
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06 Sep 2023 21:56:25
Honestly ED I don’t know what I believe. Like I said I’m completely on the fence.
If I’m being completely honest, I have to admit I have my doubts about Eric Dubay.
Firstly the fact he has been mentioned by Joe Rogan is a red flag for me. Joe Rogan is a establishment shill, I think we can both recognise that. Establishment shills don’t give a “leg up” to truth tellers. The fact that he was mentioned and was proposing a debate (that never happened) between him and Neil Degrasse Tyson, just rings alarm bells for me.
In regards to his content, a few more issues cropped up. He highlights Neil De Grasse Tyson saying that he doesn’t know what gravity is. Gravity is a measurable force. It can be measured and observed. He never confronts this, he just highlights an obvious establishment puppet in Neil De Grasse Tyson, saying he doesn’t know what gravity is. To me that shows he is skirting around the scientific evidence, and would rather create a narrative that is himself vs Degrasse Tyson. To me this reeks of a pysop. An establishment shill vs an establishment shill, who never will debate each other to see who is actually correct, but it creates a dichotomy of two opposing camps both fighting against each other. It’s the divide and conquer tactic.
He also makes assertions about the “flat earth society” and what they claim to believe in their website in regards to the earth being a flat disk in space, and how “no true flat earth believer would ever believe this”, but he never actually clarified what it was that he believed.
His videos although compelling were also lacking in true scientific reasoning to back up his claims. Yes I’m aware of the Bedford level experiment and how fish eyes lenses distort images, and we are all aware of how they fake the ISS footage, and space walks filmed in underwater tanks, and that all images from “outer space” are composites. However he never really gives any real scientific evidence for the flat earth, or how it works, how the big the sun and moons is, how far away they are, surely if the sun and moon were local we know have the technology now to be able to measure these things, using lasers for example. Surely someone would have been able to measure this by now? Again I’m no scientist but I’m just thinking outside the box here.
Now please don’t think I’m writing of the flat earth theory, I’m absolutely not, I think there is a good chance that the earth is flat and that we have been lied to, but Eric Dubay and his channel seems to me to be a psyop. A way of grouping together certain theories such as the ISS, space walks being faked, the moon landings, all of which have very hard evidence to back up the claims, and discredit them with a theory about the earth that he provides little real scientific evidence for. For example if I spoke to someone about this and said “gravity doesn’t exist”, they would look at me like I had gone insane, it only takes a quick search to find the formula for calculating gravity and experiments to show it. This then discredits me and anything else I have to say. Anything else I say to them has already been discredited true or not, evidence or not.
On social media these days “flat earther” is often used as a derogatory term, and it’s basically replaced the word “conspiracy theorist”, which was initially a CIA term used to discredit the truth. Now if you say that we cannot leave low earth orbit, space walks are faked, the moon landings were filmed in a studio, people immediately call you a “flat earther”. Again this reeks of a CIA pysop.
As Ive already said I’m on the fence with the flat earth theory, please don’t think I’m discrediting anything anyone believes on here I’m not. I’m simply trying to discern between the truth and the lies we’re fed.
I think there’s a high chance that Eric Dubay is controlled opposition. I’d like to see more evidence than what he has provided before I can say that this is what I believe. As things stand I think there’s a high chance that the earth is not what we have been told, however I have yet to see verifiable facts to prove it, especially on his videos.
I just wanted to be honest, please don’t think I’m attacking your or anyone else’s views, that’s not my intention but as you said, we need to question everything before we make our minds up, take nothing at face value. If you could provide me with other evidence for the flat earth it’s something I would be very happy to watch/read as its a subject I’m very interested in, and I think has a high chance that it is in fact true. However Eric Dubay I believe is controlled opposition and perhaps mixing truth with lies to muddy the waters. Based on his videos alone I cannot say if we are on a planet or not.
Honestly ED I don’t know what I believe. Like I said I’m completely on the fence.
If I’m being completely honest, I have to admit I have my doubts about Eric Dubay.
Firstly the fact he has been mentioned by Joe Rogan is a red flag for me. Joe Rogan is a establishment shill, I think we can both recognise that. Establishment shills don’t give a “leg up” to truth tellers. The fact that he was mentioned and was proposing a debate (that never happened) between him and Neil Degrasse Tyson, just rings alarm bells for me.
In regards to his content, a few more issues cropped up. He highlights Neil De Grasse Tyson saying that he doesn’t know what gravity is. Gravity is a measurable force. It can be measured and observed. He never confronts this, he just highlights an obvious establishment puppet in Neil De Grasse Tyson, saying he doesn’t know what gravity is. To me that shows he is skirting around the scientific evidence, and would rather create a narrative that is himself vs Degrasse Tyson. To me this reeks of a pysop. An establishment shill vs an establishment shill, who never will debate each other to see who is actually correct, but it creates a dichotomy of two opposing camps both fighting against each other. It’s the divide and conquer tactic.
He also makes assertions about the “flat earth society” and what they claim to believe in their website in regards to the earth being a flat disk in space, and how “no true flat earth believer would ever believe this”, but he never actually clarified what it was that he believed.
His videos although compelling were also lacking in true scientific reasoning to back up his claims. Yes I’m aware of the Bedford level experiment and how fish eyes lenses distort images, and we are all aware of how they fake the ISS footage, and space walks filmed in underwater tanks, and that all images from “outer space” are composites. However he never really gives any real scientific evidence for the flat earth, or how it works, how the big the sun and moons is, how far away they are, surely if the sun and moon were local we know have the technology now to be able to measure these things, using lasers for example. Surely someone would have been able to measure this by now? Again I’m no scientist but I’m just thinking outside the box here.
Now please don’t think I’m writing of the flat earth theory, I’m absolutely not, I think there is a good chance that the earth is flat and that we have been lied to, but Eric Dubay and his channel seems to me to be a psyop. A way of grouping together certain theories such as the ISS, space walks being faked, the moon landings, all of which have very hard evidence to back up the claims, and discredit them with a theory about the earth that he provides little real scientific evidence for. For example if I spoke to someone about this and said “gravity doesn’t exist”, they would look at me like I had gone insane, it only takes a quick search to find the formula for calculating gravity and experiments to show it. This then discredits me and anything else I have to say. Anything else I say to them has already been discredited true or not, evidence or not.
On social media these days “flat earther” is often used as a derogatory term, and it’s basically replaced the word “conspiracy theorist”, which was initially a CIA term used to discredit the truth. Now if you say that we cannot leave low earth orbit, space walks are faked, the moon landings were filmed in a studio, people immediately call you a “flat earther”. Again this reeks of a CIA pysop.
As Ive already said I’m on the fence with the flat earth theory, please don’t think I’m discrediting anything anyone believes on here I’m not. I’m simply trying to discern between the truth and the lies we’re fed.
I think there’s a high chance that Eric Dubay is controlled opposition. I’d like to see more evidence than what he has provided before I can say that this is what I believe. As things stand I think there’s a high chance that the earth is not what we have been told, however I have yet to see verifiable facts to prove it, especially on his videos.
I just wanted to be honest, please don’t think I’m attacking your or anyone else’s views, that’s not my intention but as you said, we need to question everything before we make our minds up, take nothing at face value. If you could provide me with other evidence for the flat earth it’s something I would be very happy to watch/read as its a subject I’m very interested in, and I think has a high chance that it is in fact true. However Eric Dubay I believe is controlled opposition and perhaps mixing truth with lies to muddy the waters. Based on his videos alone I cannot say if we are on a planet or not.
{Ed032's Note - I think you need to watch ALL of Eric Dubay's work, JE888. He covers everything. I am lacking sleep so I will make this a short answer but things like 'gravity' Eric covers in depth. Density and buoyancy are all you need to understand on this matter. I find a clip for you later but Eric has made a lot of very long (6hours+) video documentaries and you maybe missing a lot of the nuggets throughout.
I think you are wrong about Eric Dubay but that's just my opinion. It is impossible to know for sure who all the shills are on top of the one's we do. It is best to remember this whilst watching documentaries or doing any research. Trust no one and make your own mind up is a good motto to have whilst doing that.
I think you are wrong about Eric Dubay but that's just my opinion. It is impossible to know for sure who all the shills are on top of the one's we do. It is best to remember this whilst watching documentaries or doing any research. Trust no one and make your own mind up is a good motto to have whilst doing that.
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07 Sep 2023 13:51:41
I will check out more of him Ed when I have the time. I’m not saying he’s 100% controlled opposition it was just a few red flags that cropped up that made me wary of him. As I was saying the other day, the aim of Marxism is to control everyone’s minds, and my own experiences and what I’ve observed makes me very wary of trusting anyone on the internet these days. I will give him another chance and watch a few more of his videos, if you could give me a pointer on which ones are good that would be great, thank you.
I will check out more of him Ed when I have the time. I’m not saying he’s 100% controlled opposition it was just a few red flags that cropped up that made me wary of him. As I was saying the other day, the aim of Marxism is to control everyone’s minds, and my own experiences and what I’ve observed makes me very wary of trusting anyone on the internet these days. I will give him another chance and watch a few more of his videos, if you could give me a pointer on which ones are good that would be great, thank you.
{Ed032's Note - Perhaps I should say this;
I do not take Eric Dubay's word as gospel but I am happy to listen to him speak and process the words he shares in my own intelligently created mind for I trust myself. 👍
I do not take Eric Dubay's word as gospel but I am happy to listen to him speak and process the words he shares in my own intelligently created mind for I trust myself. 👍
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