07 Sep 2023 20:27:55
I’m sorry to hear that Ed. I think we each have a cross to bear. I understand exactly what you mean about caring about how others perceive you and what you say. Particularly in text format it becomes difficult to express thoughts without someone perceiving them to be rude, especially if there is a difference of opinion, and I too worry that I’ve upset people. Sometimes I tend to forget as well there’s a real person on the other side. I think many years of social media corrupts you in that sense, when you’ve spent years dealing with trolls you become a little desensitised when it comes to engaging with other people over the internet. I’m glad to hear my posts haven’t bothered you though.
You make a good point about the weather manipulation and the possibility that these are artefacts. Chemtrailing I always assumed was a way of covering this so called planetary system, but perhaps it has other uses which we are unaware of (poisoning us?) and these artefacts are a side effect of this chemtrailing and weather manipulation?
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07 Sep 2023 19:28:48
No problems ED, I’ll give you a bit of peace. I’m sorry if I’ve been posting a lot, just been trying to figure this out, and make sense of everyone’s views. I’m not a troll by the way. I do have bipolar which means I have manic episodes which I think I may be in now, things become a bit of an obsession and my thoughts are pretty intense. I think it’s why I like to write, to make sense of my thoughts which are often jumbled. It’s good to get them down.
Read discussionNo problems ED, I’ll give you a bit of peace. I’m sorry if I’ve been posting a lot, just been trying to figure this out, and make sense of everyone’s views. I’m not a troll by the way. I do have bipolar which means I have manic episodes which I think I may be in now, things become a bit of an obsession and my thoughts are pretty intense. I think it’s why I like to write, to make sense of my thoughts which are often jumbled. It’s good to get them down.
07 Sep 2023 18:36:15
Oh sorry I forgot to post the video I mentioned above about the lunar cycles in the black sun theory.
Read discussionOh sorry I forgot to post the video I mentioned above about the lunar cycles in the black sun theory.
07 Sep 2023 18:32:53
I’m not sure Exactly what I believe ED. I think I’m somewhere in the middle of what you believe and mainstream “science” perhaps we are on a flat plane and the entire visible solar system revolves around us, created for us and we are at the centre of our solar system. Similar to what was believed hundreds of years ago. The black sun theory is interesting, I came across a video the other night which explained the Lunar phases, which is something I was struggling to understand based on the flat earth theory proposed by Eric Dubay. So I stumbled across this video which I will post at the bottom, it made sense to me in regards to how it works. Whether it’s true or not is another matter entirely. As you said they’re hiding everything from us. The whole nature of our reality is a mystery and we can only speculate.
You propose an interesting theory about the scriptures pointing to events happening in the sky. In the bible it specifically tells us of signs in the sky which precede the end. The three wise men followed a star to Bethlehem when Jesus was born as well. I have to admit these things have crossed my mind in the past in regards to the true nature of our reality.
I completely agree with you on the points about the powers that be controlling all science and what we are and are not allowed to know about our world. It angers me that they are hiding things at the North Pole and Antarctica. What angers me more however is the censorship. That they are trying to bring in laws that will prevent people from even being allowed to look at information that is contrary to their narratives. What’s even more frustrating is they are drip feeding snippets of why this is “necessary” into the public consciousness, and it’s always some “poor victim” narrative who’s feelings have been hurt by someone questioning the truth. I’m not sure if you know about Richard D Hall, but he’s recently been targeted by the establishment for exposing the fabricated terror. The “Manchester bombing” is the one they’re going after him for, they did a hit piece on him, deleted his YouTube channel first of course and censored Google so that nobody could actually find him or his website and watch the actual evidence. Now they’re suing him as well claiming “emotional distress” or some nonsense because some people online watched his videos and claimed the so called victims were “liars” and wrote nasty comments on social media. Apparently that’s now a crime in this ridiculous world. You’re not allowed to question anyone or anything I anymore. You’re not allowed to criticise or hurt anyones feelings. These are now actual crimes. It’s beyond ridiculous. I have a right as a human being to say what ever I feel is true. If that hurts someone’s feelings then that’s their problem. Richards in danger of losing everything, but don’t worry I’m sure he will get a “fair trial” 😉
Read discussionI’m not sure Exactly what I believe ED. I think I’m somewhere in the middle of what you believe and mainstream “science” perhaps we are on a flat plane and the entire visible solar system revolves around us, created for us and we are at the centre of our solar system. Similar to what was believed hundreds of years ago. The black sun theory is interesting, I came across a video the other night which explained the Lunar phases, which is something I was struggling to understand based on the flat earth theory proposed by Eric Dubay. So I stumbled across this video which I will post at the bottom, it made sense to me in regards to how it works. Whether it’s true or not is another matter entirely. As you said they’re hiding everything from us. The whole nature of our reality is a mystery and we can only speculate.
You propose an interesting theory about the scriptures pointing to events happening in the sky. In the bible it specifically tells us of signs in the sky which precede the end. The three wise men followed a star to Bethlehem when Jesus was born as well. I have to admit these things have crossed my mind in the past in regards to the true nature of our reality.
I completely agree with you on the points about the powers that be controlling all science and what we are and are not allowed to know about our world. It angers me that they are hiding things at the North Pole and Antarctica. What angers me more however is the censorship. That they are trying to bring in laws that will prevent people from even being allowed to look at information that is contrary to their narratives. What’s even more frustrating is they are drip feeding snippets of why this is “necessary” into the public consciousness, and it’s always some “poor victim” narrative who’s feelings have been hurt by someone questioning the truth. I’m not sure if you know about Richard D Hall, but he’s recently been targeted by the establishment for exposing the fabricated terror. The “Manchester bombing” is the one they’re going after him for, they did a hit piece on him, deleted his YouTube channel first of course and censored Google so that nobody could actually find him or his website and watch the actual evidence. Now they’re suing him as well claiming “emotional distress” or some nonsense because some people online watched his videos and claimed the so called victims were “liars” and wrote nasty comments on social media. Apparently that’s now a crime in this ridiculous world. You’re not allowed to question anyone or anything I anymore. You’re not allowed to criticise or hurt anyones feelings. These are now actual crimes. It’s beyond ridiculous. I have a right as a human being to say what ever I feel is true. If that hurts someone’s feelings then that’s their problem. Richards in danger of losing everything, but don’t worry I’m sure he will get a “fair trial” 😉
07 Sep 2023 16:10:06
I see what you’re saying Ed. So do you subscribe to the black sun theory? That there is in fact some sort of star that is below us and it is projecting what we perceive as the sun and the moon? To me that makes more sense than a local sun and moon. There’s some interesting footage in that video for sure, I’ve seen videos of the “sun in clouds” before, and I’ve personally seen the suns rays being refracted by clouds and if you follow the rays to the source it does appear that the “sun” is a lot closer than 90 odd million miles away.
In regards to your theory about what is shown in the video as being an artefact, I’m not sure on that to be honest. I’ll have to look into this whole theory more to try and get my head around it. A couple of issues I have are that what’s being seen in this video seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon, surely if what you’re saying is true these artefacts would be a common occurrence and we would be seeing them on a fairly regular basis? I’ve personally seen something like what is in the video with my own eyes as I was telling you yesterday, but I’ve never spoken to anyone else who has seen anything like this, apart from one person on a YouTube channel who says he saw something identical to what I described to you (a large red glowing “planet”) around the same sort of year and months I did. I just feel if these things were artefacts then they would be visible fairly regularly, just like a lens flare or something like that is visible in many camera photos. Like I said I’ll have to look into the theory some more and try and get my head around it all. I began watching something the other night about the black sun theory but I was tired and wasn’t really taking it in. I’ll have to give it another watch. Thank you for the input though Ed!
Read discussionI see what you’re saying Ed. So do you subscribe to the black sun theory? That there is in fact some sort of star that is below us and it is projecting what we perceive as the sun and the moon? To me that makes more sense than a local sun and moon. There’s some interesting footage in that video for sure, I’ve seen videos of the “sun in clouds” before, and I’ve personally seen the suns rays being refracted by clouds and if you follow the rays to the source it does appear that the “sun” is a lot closer than 90 odd million miles away.
In regards to your theory about what is shown in the video as being an artefact, I’m not sure on that to be honest. I’ll have to look into this whole theory more to try and get my head around it. A couple of issues I have are that what’s being seen in this video seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon, surely if what you’re saying is true these artefacts would be a common occurrence and we would be seeing them on a fairly regular basis? I’ve personally seen something like what is in the video with my own eyes as I was telling you yesterday, but I’ve never spoken to anyone else who has seen anything like this, apart from one person on a YouTube channel who says he saw something identical to what I described to you (a large red glowing “planet”) around the same sort of year and months I did. I just feel if these things were artefacts then they would be visible fairly regularly, just like a lens flare or something like that is visible in many camera photos. Like I said I’ll have to look into the theory some more and try and get my head around it all. I began watching something the other night about the black sun theory but I was tired and wasn’t really taking it in. I’ll have to give it another watch. Thank you for the input though Ed!
07 Sep 2023 13:58:09
I thought I’d share a channel I’ve been watching for some time now. The lady who runs it monitors FAA weather cams. These are weather cams in America used to monitor weather conditions for the airline industry. She has found many images on these weather cams that appear to show planets. These images can be personally verified, you simply need to find the camera on the FAA website, when she uploads a video and go and check out the weather cam, the images are stored for maybe 8 hours after they were taken. From her own words she only finds what they miss, the images on these cameras are often deleted and whole periods sometime are not available. Her channel has dozens of these videos of alleged planets visible on these weather cams. Let me know what you think guys.
07 Sep 2023 13:51:41
I will check out more of him Ed when I have the time. I’m not saying he’s 100% controlled opposition it was just a few red flags that cropped up that made me wary of him. As I was saying the other day, the aim of Marxism is to control everyone’s minds, and my own experiences and what I’ve observed makes me very wary of trusting anyone on the internet these days. I will give him another chance and watch a few more of his videos, if you could give me a pointer on which ones are good that would be great, thank you.
Read discussionI will check out more of him Ed when I have the time. I’m not saying he’s 100% controlled opposition it was just a few red flags that cropped up that made me wary of him. As I was saying the other day, the aim of Marxism is to control everyone’s minds, and my own experiences and what I’ve observed makes me very wary of trusting anyone on the internet these days. I will give him another chance and watch a few more of his videos, if you could give me a pointer on which ones are good that would be great, thank you.
07 Sep 2023 14:44:52
Thank you ed033, I will give it a watch when I get the chance. It’s not that I dislike Eric Dubay. I’m just very careful about what and who I trust these days. I’m always on guard for deception these days as I’ve been caught out in the past and having observed how the ‘powers that be’ use people to push false narratives it makes me very mistrusting of anyone, especially those who get hundreds of thousands if not millions of views.
For example there was a channel I used to follow a little, it was during the La Palma volcanic eruption and the channel was called “DutchSinse”. During one of his streams during this event he seemingly had a crisis of conscience. This person runs a channel documenting volcanic eruptions and earthquakes etc.
Surrounding this eruption there was a theory going around that a huge chunk of the island could break off and cause a massive tsunami. If I recall correctly he was taking the stance that La Palma was absolutely nothing to worry about and everyone who was playing it up were “fear mongers”. Now I didn’t watch his stream but I did read and listen to people who did.
Apparently he was apologising profusely to all his listeners and saying that he had lied to them and he was asking for forgiveness. The stream was deleted straight away and he disappeared online for a few weeks. When he came back he was acting like nothing had happened and carried on making his usual videos.
To me that was evidence he was being controlled. I did read a few comments (obviously I can’t say how true they were) and people were saying that they had heard that in the past he had been threatened by the CIA to tow the line, threatened with jail time etc.
This is just one example of why I’m extremely cautious of trusting anyone online these days. The powers that be will go to extreme lengths to control the flow of information to the public.
Read discussionThank you ed033, I will give it a watch when I get the chance. It’s not that I dislike Eric Dubay. I’m just very careful about what and who I trust these days. I’m always on guard for deception these days as I’ve been caught out in the past and having observed how the ‘powers that be’ use people to push false narratives it makes me very mistrusting of anyone, especially those who get hundreds of thousands if not millions of views.
For example there was a channel I used to follow a little, it was during the La Palma volcanic eruption and the channel was called “DutchSinse”. During one of his streams during this event he seemingly had a crisis of conscience. This person runs a channel documenting volcanic eruptions and earthquakes etc.
Surrounding this eruption there was a theory going around that a huge chunk of the island could break off and cause a massive tsunami. If I recall correctly he was taking the stance that La Palma was absolutely nothing to worry about and everyone who was playing it up were “fear mongers”. Now I didn’t watch his stream but I did read and listen to people who did.
Apparently he was apologising profusely to all his listeners and saying that he had lied to them and he was asking for forgiveness. The stream was deleted straight away and he disappeared online for a few weeks. When he came back he was acting like nothing had happened and carried on making his usual videos.
To me that was evidence he was being controlled. I did read a few comments (obviously I can’t say how true they were) and people were saying that they had heard that in the past he had been threatened by the CIA to tow the line, threatened with jail time etc.
This is just one example of why I’m extremely cautious of trusting anyone online these days. The powers that be will go to extreme lengths to control the flow of information to the public.
07 Sep 2023 08:28:41
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06 Sep 2023 21:56:25
Honestly ED I don’t know what I believe. Like I said I’m completely on the fence.
If I’m being completely honest, I have to admit I have my doubts about Eric Dubay.
Firstly the fact he has been mentioned by Joe Rogan is a red flag for me. Joe Rogan is a establishment shill, I think we can both recognise that. Establishment shills don’t give a “leg up” to truth tellers. The fact that he was mentioned and was proposing a debate (that never happened) between him and Neil Degrasse Tyson, just rings alarm bells for me.
In regards to his content, a few more issues cropped up. He highlights Neil De Grasse Tyson saying that he doesn’t know what gravity is. Gravity is a measurable force. It can be measured and observed. He never confronts this, he just highlights an obvious establishment puppet in Neil De Grasse Tyson, saying he doesn’t know what gravity is. To me that shows he is skirting around the scientific evidence, and would rather create a narrative that is himself vs Degrasse Tyson. To me this reeks of a pysop. An establishment shill vs an establishment shill, who never will debate each other to see who is actually correct, but it creates a dichotomy of two opposing camps both fighting against each other. It’s the divide and conquer tactic.
He also makes assertions about the “flat earth society” and what they claim to believe in their website in regards to the earth being a flat disk in space, and how “no true flat earth believer would ever believe this”, but he never actually clarified what it was that he believed.
His videos although compelling were also lacking in true scientific reasoning to back up his claims. Yes I’m aware of the Bedford level experiment and how fish eyes lenses distort images, and we are all aware of how they fake the ISS footage, and space walks filmed in underwater tanks, and that all images from “outer space” are composites. However he never really gives any real scientific evidence for the flat earth, or how it works, how the big the sun and moons is, how far away they are, surely if the sun and moon were local we know have the technology now to be able to measure these things, using lasers for example. Surely someone would have been able to measure this by now? Again I’m no scientist but I’m just thinking outside the box here.
Now please don’t think I’m writing of the flat earth theory, I’m absolutely not, I think there is a good chance that the earth is flat and that we have been lied to, but Eric Dubay and his channel seems to me to be a psyop. A way of grouping together certain theories such as the ISS, space walks being faked, the moon landings, all of which have very hard evidence to back up the claims, and discredit them with a theory about the earth that he provides little real scientific evidence for. For example if I spoke to someone about this and said “gravity doesn’t exist”, they would look at me like I had gone insane, it only takes a quick search to find the formula for calculating gravity and experiments to show it. This then discredits me and anything else I have to say. Anything else I say to them has already been discredited true or not, evidence or not.
On social media these days “flat earther” is often used as a derogatory term, and it’s basically replaced the word “conspiracy theorist”, which was initially a CIA term used to discredit the truth. Now if you say that we cannot leave low earth orbit, space walks are faked, the moon landings were filmed in a studio, people immediately call you a “flat earther”. Again this reeks of a CIA pysop.
As I've already said I’m on the fence with the flat earth theory, please don’t think I’m discrediting anything anyone believes on here I’m not. I’m simply trying to discern between the truth and the lies we’re fed.
I think there’s a high chance that Eric Dubay is controlled opposition. I’d like to see more evidence than what he has provided before I can say that this is what I believe. As things stand I think there’s a high chance that the earth is not what we have been told, however I have yet to see verifiable facts to prove it, especially on his videos.
I just wanted to be honest, please don’t think I’m attacking your or anyone else’s views, that’s not my intention but as you said, we need to question everything before we make our minds up, take nothing at face value. If you could provide me with other evidence for the flat earth it’s something I would be very happy to watch/read as its a subject I’m very interested in, and I think has a high chance that it is in fact true. However Eric Dubay I believe is controlled opposition and perhaps mixing truth with lies to muddy the waters. Based on his videos alone I cannot say if we are on a planet or not.
06 Sep 2023 21:56:25
Honestly ED I don’t know what I believe. Like I said I’m completely on the fence.
If I’m being completely honest, I have to admit I have my doubts about Eric Dubay.
Firstly the fact he has been mentioned by Joe Rogan is a red flag for me. Joe Rogan is a establishment shill, I think we can both recognise that. Establishment shills don’t give a “leg up” to truth tellers. The fact that he was mentioned and was proposing a debate (that never happened) between him and Neil Degrasse Tyson, just rings alarm bells for me.
In regards to his content, a few more issues cropped up. He highlights Neil De Grasse Tyson saying that he doesn’t know what gravity is. Gravity is a measurable force. It can be measured and observed. He never confronts this, he just highlights an obvious establishment puppet in Neil De Grasse Tyson, saying he doesn’t know what gravity is. To me that shows he is skirting around the scientific evidence, and would rather create a narrative that is himself vs Degrasse Tyson. To me this reeks of a pysop. An establishment shill vs an establishment shill, who never will debate each other to see who is actually correct, but it creates a dichotomy of two opposing camps both fighting against each other. It’s the divide and conquer tactic.
He also makes assertions about the “flat earth society” and what they claim to believe in their website in regards to the earth being a flat disk in space, and how “no true flat earth believer would ever believe this”, but he never actually clarified what it was that he believed.
His videos although compelling were also lacking in true scientific reasoning to back up his claims. Yes I’m aware of the Bedford level experiment and how fish eyes lenses distort images, and we are all aware of how they fake the ISS footage, and space walks filmed in underwater tanks, and that all images from “outer space” are composites. However he never really gives any real scientific evidence for the flat earth, or how it works, how the big the sun and moons is, how far away they are, surely if the sun and moon were local we know have the technology now to be able to measure these things, using lasers for example. Surely someone would have been able to measure this by now? Again I’m no scientist but I’m just thinking outside the box here.
Now please don’t think I’m writing of the flat earth theory, I’m absolutely not, I think there is a good chance that the earth is flat and that we have been lied to, but Eric Dubay and his channel seems to me to be a psyop. A way of grouping together certain theories such as the ISS, space walks being faked, the moon landings, all of which have very hard evidence to back up the claims, and discredit them with a theory about the earth that he provides little real scientific evidence for. For example if I spoke to someone about this and said “gravity doesn’t exist”, they would look at me like I had gone insane, it only takes a quick search to find the formula for calculating gravity and experiments to show it. This then discredits me and anything else I have to say. Anything else I say to them has already been discredited true or not, evidence or not.
On social media these days “flat earther” is often used as a derogatory term, and it’s basically replaced the word “conspiracy theorist”, which was initially a CIA term used to discredit the truth. Now if you say that we cannot leave low earth orbit, space walks are faked, the moon landings were filmed in a studio, people immediately call you a “flat earther”. Again this reeks of a CIA pysop.
As Ive already said I’m on the fence with the flat earth theory, please don’t think I’m discrediting anything anyone believes on here I’m not. I’m simply trying to discern between the truth and the lies we’re fed.
I think there’s a high chance that Eric Dubay is controlled opposition. I’d like to see more evidence than what he has provided before I can say that this is what I believe. As things stand I think there’s a high chance that the earth is not what we have been told, however I have yet to see verifiable facts to prove it, especially on his videos.
I just wanted to be honest, please don’t think I’m attacking your or anyone else’s views, that’s not my intention but as you said, we need to question everything before we make our minds up, take nothing at face value. If you could provide me with other evidence for the flat earth it’s something I would be very happy to watch/read as its a subject I’m very interested in, and I think has a high chance that it is in fact true. However Eric Dubay I believe is controlled opposition and perhaps mixing truth with lies to muddy the waters. Based on his videos alone I cannot say if we are on a planet or not.
Read discussionHonestly ED I don’t know what I believe. Like I said I’m completely on the fence.
If I’m being completely honest, I have to admit I have my doubts about Eric Dubay.
Firstly the fact he has been mentioned by Joe Rogan is a red flag for me. Joe Rogan is a establishment shill, I think we can both recognise that. Establishment shills don’t give a “leg up” to truth tellers. The fact that he was mentioned and was proposing a debate (that never happened) between him and Neil Degrasse Tyson, just rings alarm bells for me.
In regards to his content, a few more issues cropped up. He highlights Neil De Grasse Tyson saying that he doesn’t know what gravity is. Gravity is a measurable force. It can be measured and observed. He never confronts this, he just highlights an obvious establishment puppet in Neil De Grasse Tyson, saying he doesn’t know what gravity is. To me that shows he is skirting around the scientific evidence, and would rather create a narrative that is himself vs Degrasse Tyson. To me this reeks of a pysop. An establishment shill vs an establishment shill, who never will debate each other to see who is actually correct, but it creates a dichotomy of two opposing camps both fighting against each other. It’s the divide and conquer tactic.
He also makes assertions about the “flat earth society” and what they claim to believe in their website in regards to the earth being a flat disk in space, and how “no true flat earth believer would ever believe this”, but he never actually clarified what it was that he believed.
His videos although compelling were also lacking in true scientific reasoning to back up his claims. Yes I’m aware of the Bedford level experiment and how fish eyes lenses distort images, and we are all aware of how they fake the ISS footage, and space walks filmed in underwater tanks, and that all images from “outer space” are composites. However he never really gives any real scientific evidence for the flat earth, or how it works, how the big the sun and moons is, how far away they are, surely if the sun and moon were local we know have the technology now to be able to measure these things, using lasers for example. Surely someone would have been able to measure this by now? Again I’m no scientist but I’m just thinking outside the box here.
Now please don’t think I’m writing of the flat earth theory, I’m absolutely not, I think there is a good chance that the earth is flat and that we have been lied to, but Eric Dubay and his channel seems to me to be a psyop. A way of grouping together certain theories such as the ISS, space walks being faked, the moon landings, all of which have very hard evidence to back up the claims, and discredit them with a theory about the earth that he provides little real scientific evidence for. For example if I spoke to someone about this and said “gravity doesn’t exist”, they would look at me like I had gone insane, it only takes a quick search to find the formula for calculating gravity and experiments to show it. This then discredits me and anything else I have to say. Anything else I say to them has already been discredited true or not, evidence or not.
On social media these days “flat earther” is often used as a derogatory term, and it’s basically replaced the word “conspiracy theorist”, which was initially a CIA term used to discredit the truth. Now if you say that we cannot leave low earth orbit, space walks are faked, the moon landings were filmed in a studio, people immediately call you a “flat earther”. Again this reeks of a CIA pysop.
As Ive already said I’m on the fence with the flat earth theory, please don’t think I’m discrediting anything anyone believes on here I’m not. I’m simply trying to discern between the truth and the lies we’re fed.
I think there’s a high chance that Eric Dubay is controlled opposition. I’d like to see more evidence than what he has provided before I can say that this is what I believe. As things stand I think there’s a high chance that the earth is not what we have been told, however I have yet to see verifiable facts to prove it, especially on his videos.
I just wanted to be honest, please don’t think I’m attacking your or anyone else’s views, that’s not my intention but as you said, we need to question everything before we make our minds up, take nothing at face value. If you could provide me with other evidence for the flat earth it’s something I would be very happy to watch/read as its a subject I’m very interested in, and I think has a high chance that it is in fact true. However Eric Dubay I believe is controlled opposition and perhaps mixing truth with lies to muddy the waters. Based on his videos alone I cannot say if we are on a planet or not.
06 Sep 2023 20:03:03
PS I’m not at all ruling out this could be intentional disinformation. When I first had it shared with me it was by a (supposed) small Russian channel that was sharing IR videos of the supposed planet X, and it was shortly shut down after. The document was deleted off Google drive soon after also. It was nowhere to be found when I searched probably 18 months ago. However last night I searched for the “Proekt Orion” and I found it on a Reddit page translated into English. That rang alarm bells for me if I’m honest. I know Reddit is heavily moderated and they delete anything that doesn’t fit their agenda.
However there’s a reason I believe in Planet X and why I gave the book credence when I first read it. A few years ago I was walking dog up a nearby hill with my younger brother. It was probably around 8 or 9 ish this sort of time of year I’m guessing, as it was still warm but dark early-ish. On the way back we both saw what I can only describe as a red planet in the sky. It wasn’t the moon, which was behind us, obviously it wasn’t the sun which had already set, evidenced by the fact it was dark, and this planet was visible to both of us for around 3-4 minutes. It soon dropped beyond the horizon, but whatever it was was large (bigger than the moon) bright red and glowing. The reason I found this book so fascinating is that it describes this Planet X as a large red planet made of iron oxide, and that it was supposed to enter our solar system around 2012. My brother and I saw this “planet” around 2017-2018 as a rough estimate. Also according to the book it is supposed to cause global catastrophes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions etc. all of which are happening at record rates. Anyway I know this isn’t entirely proof of Planet X, I’m honestly not sure what my brother and I saw that night, but it looked like a large red planet is all I can say.
Read discussionPS I’m not at all ruling out this could be intentional disinformation. When I first had it shared with me it was by a (supposed) small Russian channel that was sharing IR videos of the supposed planet X, and it was shortly shut down after. The document was deleted off Google drive soon after also. It was nowhere to be found when I searched probably 18 months ago. However last night I searched for the “Proekt Orion” and I found it on a Reddit page translated into English. That rang alarm bells for me if I’m honest. I know Reddit is heavily moderated and they delete anything that doesn’t fit their agenda.
However there’s a reason I believe in Planet X and why I gave the book credence when I first read it. A few years ago I was walking dog up a nearby hill with my younger brother. It was probably around 8 or 9 ish this sort of time of year I’m guessing, as it was still warm but dark early-ish. On the way back we both saw what I can only describe as a red planet in the sky. It wasn’t the moon, which was behind us, obviously it wasn’t the sun which had already set, evidenced by the fact it was dark, and this planet was visible to both of us for around 3-4 minutes. It soon dropped beyond the horizon, but whatever it was was large (bigger than the moon) bright red and glowing. The reason I found this book so fascinating is that it describes this Planet X as a large red planet made of iron oxide, and that it was supposed to enter our solar system around 2012. My brother and I saw this “planet” around 2017-2018 as a rough estimate. Also according to the book it is supposed to cause global catastrophes, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions etc. all of which are happening at record rates. Anyway I know this isn’t entirely proof of Planet X, I’m honestly not sure what my brother and I saw that night, but it looked like a large red planet is all I can say.
06 Sep 2023 21:16:19
It’s a shame that he longer posts. I learned a lot from him. Personally Ed, and I know this isn’t really the site for religious debates but I believe this is the last days period. That after this the earth will be destroyed just as is described in the book of the Apocalypse in the bible. In fact I know it.
Read discussionIt’s a shame that he longer posts. I learned a lot from him. Personally Ed, and I know this isn’t really the site for religious debates but I believe this is the last days period. That after this the earth will be destroyed just as is described in the book of the Apocalypse in the bible. In fact I know it.
06 Sep 2023 19:07:26
I agree Ed032, I read it again last night with a more skeptical eye. It definitely reads like a novel in parts. I do think I noticed it when I read it last but put it down to a difference in cultures. There’s certainly some “scientific” parts which do go over my head, as I’m no scientist, I think the part on the artifacts is very interesting. The crystal skull in particular I found interesting. You’re not there yet though! Thanks for the feedback! Let me know if you get any further and what you think.
Read discussionI agree Ed032, I read it again last night with a more skeptical eye. It definitely reads like a novel in parts. I do think I noticed it when I read it last but put it down to a difference in cultures. There’s certainly some “scientific” parts which do go over my head, as I’m no scientist, I think the part on the artifacts is very interesting. The crystal skull in particular I found interesting. You’re not there yet though! Thanks for the feedback! Let me know if you get any further and what you think.
06 Sep 2023 19:17:59
Wow thanks Ed, that’s a real blast from the past. I do think I remember this now. I remember heavily researching the “rapture”, I was a brand new Christian back then, and the rapture was something I was looking into. The blood moons were being linked to this apparent event. Personally I no longer believe in any kind of rapture for what it’s worth. I think Christians will be heavily persecuted and most likely killed. I do still believe firmly these are the last days, and that things are going to get much worse, and quickly. Covid was just a forerunner to what’s coming. A seed planted among the populace to mentally prepare them for the next event, and likely the next event will be blamed on “anti vaxers” as they like to call us. I did watch the video either you or 032 posted the other day in regards to 5G and how it will target schools. It’s sickening what they are planning.
Read discussionWow thanks Ed, that’s a real blast from the past. I do think I remember this now. I remember heavily researching the “rapture”, I was a brand new Christian back then, and the rapture was something I was looking into. The blood moons were being linked to this apparent event. Personally I no longer believe in any kind of rapture for what it’s worth. I think Christians will be heavily persecuted and most likely killed. I do still believe firmly these are the last days, and that things are going to get much worse, and quickly. Covid was just a forerunner to what’s coming. A seed planted among the populace to mentally prepare them for the next event, and likely the next event will be blamed on “anti vaxers” as they like to call us. I did watch the video either you or 032 posted the other day in regards to 5G and how it will target schools. It’s sickening what they are planning.
06 Sep 2023 19:20:02
PS was Zari the poster you mentioned who stopped posting after this? He was a great contributor to the site.
Read discussionPS was Zari the poster you mentioned who stopped posting after this? He was a great contributor to the site.
06 Sep 2023 10:39:12
I honestly can’t really remember that Ed. I remember thinking 2012 was going to be a world ending event. Not sure actually thinking back if I was posting on here around then though! I’m not sure at all I can remember the 2015 one.
Read discussionI honestly can’t really remember that Ed. I remember thinking 2012 was going to be a world ending event. Not sure actually thinking back if I was posting on here around then though! I’m not sure at all I can remember the 2015 one.
05 Sep 2023 23:06:46
Hi Ed’s, you can forget my last post and all the images I just uploaded, I’ve just found that someone on the internet has done an English translation of the book using Google lens that’s far easier and less hassle than the way i did it a few years ago.
So here you are: Proekt Orion, declassified “Top secret” USSR documents in English.
05 Sep 2023 20:54:45
I have to admit Ed, having watched the evidence for the flat earth, I am skeptical myself of the book. I’m am still on the fence with it all. Last night I went out for a cigarette after watching the videos, and I noticed the moon, and I was just thinking about how and why we get lunar cycles. Crescent moons etc.. that’s when I came across the videos on the black sun, and I found a channel that explains it, and that the moon isn’t in fact a chunk of rock, it’s a ball of plasma created by the black sun, and what we see as the moon is in fact a mirror of the earth, which is why we only see one face, and never see the “dark side of the moon”. It made a lot of sense.
Yes Scouseduckred, it does make sense to why those rockets sent up suddenly slow down and lose all their spin etc. the one think I struggle to understand is how it stays up there. Surely if the theory of density instead of gravity is correct, I.E. gravity doesn’t actually exist rather the denser objects fall etc, then why doesn’t the liquid above us fall as it’s denser than the air? That’s the one issue I have with the theory. I’m not saying it isn’t true, I’m completely on the fence. One things for certain, I absolutely don’t believe we’re on a spinning ball hurtling through space at breakneck speed, but I’m just trying to make sense of the theories being proposed.
Read discussionI have to admit Ed, having watched the evidence for the flat earth, I am skeptical myself of the book. I’m am still on the fence with it all. Last night I went out for a cigarette after watching the videos, and I noticed the moon, and I was just thinking about how and why we get lunar cycles. Crescent moons etc.. that’s when I came across the videos on the black sun, and I found a channel that explains it, and that the moon isn’t in fact a chunk of rock, it’s a ball of plasma created by the black sun, and what we see as the moon is in fact a mirror of the earth, which is why we only see one face, and never see the “dark side of the moon”. It made a lot of sense.
Yes Scouseduckred, it does make sense to why those rockets sent up suddenly slow down and lose all their spin etc. the one think I struggle to understand is how it stays up there. Surely if the theory of density instead of gravity is correct, I.E. gravity doesn’t actually exist rather the denser objects fall etc, then why doesn’t the liquid above us fall as it’s denser than the air? That’s the one issue I have with the theory. I’m not saying it isn’t true, I’m completely on the fence. One things for certain, I absolutely don’t believe we’re on a spinning ball hurtling through space at breakneck speed, but I’m just trying to make sense of the theories being proposed.
05 Sep 2023 21:07:56
I’m not sure what it is Ed. To me it sounded like it was talking, almost mimicking a woman’s voice. Very odd to say the least. Yes that’s a good way of dealing with fear for sure. I’m not generally one to be scared but that growl sounded so menacing and whatever it was that made it sounded big, and I just instinctively ran for the car immediately.
Haha Scouseduckred, I know what you mean about the gun shots, scared the life out of me the first time I watched it. The thing is he’s just a hunter. There’s a video on his channel where he explains that he’s been hunting deer in the Siberian wilderness for decades, and that he knows every sound of nature but that night he heard noises that he had never heard before, and that he’s never scared of going out into the wilderness but that night he was terrified. I think that’s what he says anyway can’t quite remember now, but it’s along those lines. Also there was a cabin a few years before where another hunter was killed. It was put down to a bear attack, but it was odd as the guy was an experienced hunter no doubt carrying a rifle and the door of his log cabin was broken down and he was nowhere to be found. Could be a bear but it makes you wonder.
Read discussionI’m not sure what it is Ed. To me it sounded like it was talking, almost mimicking a woman’s voice. Very odd to say the least. Yes that’s a good way of dealing with fear for sure. I’m not generally one to be scared but that growl sounded so menacing and whatever it was that made it sounded big, and I just instinctively ran for the car immediately.
Haha Scouseduckred, I know what you mean about the gun shots, scared the life out of me the first time I watched it. The thing is he’s just a hunter. There’s a video on his channel where he explains that he’s been hunting deer in the Siberian wilderness for decades, and that he knows every sound of nature but that night he heard noises that he had never heard before, and that he’s never scared of going out into the wilderness but that night he was terrified. I think that’s what he says anyway can’t quite remember now, but it’s along those lines. Also there was a cabin a few years before where another hunter was killed. It was put down to a bear attack, but it was odd as the guy was an experienced hunter no doubt carrying a rifle and the door of his log cabin was broken down and he was nowhere to be found. Could be a bear but it makes you wonder.
05 Sep 2023 21:10:34
Thanks for the video ed033, very interesting. I’m honestly not surprised. Nothing surprises me any more. I have no doubt a lot if sport is fixed. I’ve noticed quite a few fixed fights in boxing.
I know ed032, im honestly getting sick of it now haha. Can’t be doing with the drama anymore. And you’re right, I could be spending my time trying to help others rather than waste my energy on pointless corrupt sports.
Read discussionThanks for the video ed033, very interesting. I’m honestly not surprised. Nothing surprises me any more. I have no doubt a lot if sport is fixed. I’ve noticed quite a few fixed fights in boxing.
I know ed032, im honestly getting sick of it now haha. Can’t be doing with the drama anymore. And you’re right, I could be spending my time trying to help others rather than waste my energy on pointless corrupt sports.