26 Jun 2016 19:33:13
Makes me laugh when you keep hearing people saying that we are going to lose EU funding (n. ireland, Cornwall etc etc)
Do these people not realise that they are only getting money back which we have already given to the EU?
26 Jun 2016 21:41:22
How much do you give and how much do you get?
By the way, Northern Ireland is an artificial economy propped up by EU grants and British taxpayers money. No offence to my brothers and sisters up north, but its economy is a complete basket case.
How much do you give and how much do you get?
By the way, Northern Ireland is an artificial economy propped up by EU grants and British taxpayers money. No offence to my brothers and sisters up north, but its economy is a complete basket case.
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26 Jun 2016 22:48:36
It's as if many remain voters think that eu politicians only have our best interests at heart. Like it's some big sweet shop. How does anyone really know what money we get back anyway?
No one has even been able to put a correct figure on anything. It's farcical and if people think that having integration in a system like that is some sort of people coming together as one happy family are absolutely deluded. Many people (lots of adults) are taking anything said word for word.
Whenever I hear a politician speak, I just think who is this person and what is their motive. I've never trusted any politicians from my early 20's which was something my parents instilled in me. They always voted though either with their head or their heart.
I've never voted for labour, yes I'll admit it because I don't think they ever implement what they stand for but I've got to feel sorry for corbyn because right from the start he never believed in the remain camp but was forced into a corner.
My step father who died over 10 years ago who was a socialist at heart but generally voted tory said John Smith (I think) was the one that he was excited about and would get his vote for the first time. Then he died suddenly of a heart attack and along came Blair. Followed by Darling and Mandelson.
Just one of them gives me a knot in my stomach just thinking of the audacity of some of the things they would come out with. Many labour voters didn't seem to realise that they were basically tories themselves.
It's as if many remain voters think that eu politicians only have our best interests at heart. Like it's some big sweet shop. How does anyone really know what money we get back anyway?
No one has even been able to put a correct figure on anything. It's farcical and if people think that having integration in a system like that is some sort of people coming together as one happy family are absolutely deluded. Many people (lots of adults) are taking anything said word for word.
Whenever I hear a politician speak, I just think who is this person and what is their motive. I've never trusted any politicians from my early 20's which was something my parents instilled in me. They always voted though either with their head or their heart.
I've never voted for labour, yes I'll admit it because I don't think they ever implement what they stand for but I've got to feel sorry for corbyn because right from the start he never believed in the remain camp but was forced into a corner.
My step father who died over 10 years ago who was a socialist at heart but generally voted tory said John Smith (I think) was the one that he was excited about and would get his vote for the first time. Then he died suddenly of a heart attack and along came Blair. Followed by Darling and Mandelson.
Just one of them gives me a knot in my stomach just thinking of the audacity of some of the things they would come out with. Many labour voters didn't seem to realise that they were basically tories themselves.
{Ed033's Note - Another thing that's crazy is people think politicians are somehow our masters, when they are actually our servants. politicians are public servants, how can anyone not know and comprehend what the word, "servant" means.
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26 Jun 2016 23:01:07
Spot on rian.
Spot on rian.
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26 Jun 2016 23:33:59
Absolutely ed. I've never felt so proud of my one vote when I woke up in the morning. I always vote as I don't think I can moan if I don't vote. But this paricular vote I cast I presumed was for a losing vote but cast it with my heart.
It's strange to hear people discussing this vote in shops etc as a general election is usually forgotten within hours but this one seems to have people I wouldn't expect annoyed with the vote because they think freedom is a bigger increasing population under undemocratic law, if that's the best way to describe it, when freedom is actually the opposite.
it's individuality and getting along. I really feel there has been a massive positive shift these last couple of days but the media and remain supporters are saying different. I just find it really odd.
Absolutely ed. I've never felt so proud of my one vote when I woke up in the morning. I always vote as I don't think I can moan if I don't vote. But this paricular vote I cast I presumed was for a losing vote but cast it with my heart.
It's strange to hear people discussing this vote in shops etc as a general election is usually forgotten within hours but this one seems to have people I wouldn't expect annoyed with the vote because they think freedom is a bigger increasing population under undemocratic law, if that's the best way to describe it, when freedom is actually the opposite.
it's individuality and getting along. I really feel there has been a massive positive shift these last couple of days but the media and remain supporters are saying different. I just find it really odd.
{Ed033's Note - Let's hope a significant percentage of 'Leave' voters have had their eyes opened with what's going on now and a load of them 'wake up' to the corruption and manipulation that's going on right infront of their eyes.
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27 Jun 2016 00:06:58
Yes ed. The other thing that's odd about this "mass" protest is that the country is in absolute disarray. Yet all services etc running the same. The only protest I've seen is the online petition, it's hardly a reaction. In france the slightest mention of a reduction in workers rights etc causes mass strikes disrupting the whole country like we saw in the last couple of months.
Here we have an online petition that's just been hijacked. No mass protests that I can think of. Apparently there were marches but nothing reported. It's the media again whipping up a sh*t storm that isn't happening.
Yes ed. The other thing that's odd about this "mass" protest is that the country is in absolute disarray. Yet all services etc running the same. The only protest I've seen is the online petition, it's hardly a reaction. In france the slightest mention of a reduction in workers rights etc causes mass strikes disrupting the whole country like we saw in the last couple of months.
Here we have an online petition that's just been hijacked. No mass protests that I can think of. Apparently there were marches but nothing reported. It's the media again whipping up a sh*t storm that isn't happening.
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27 Jun 2016 00:39:29
Excellent points supa sub
Total goes to EU 20 billion a year
10 comes back in rebate but! 12 months later
Another 6 comes back with strings attached
And if we don't do as told we get a fine extortionate one
They keep 4 billion for (membership fee) lol.
Excellent points supa sub
Total goes to EU 20 billion a year
10 comes back in rebate but! 12 months later
Another 6 comes back with strings attached
And if we don't do as told we get a fine extortionate one
They keep 4 billion for (membership fee) lol.
{Ed033's Note - But if another EU member defaults or requires money to stop them from defaulting, we have to cough up billions for them.
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27 Jun 2016 02:55:07
Yes as ed said, Not to forget
Bailouts that are 100 percent needed and run in the billions
And it's a well known fact billions miss our economy every single year we are in EU.
Yes as ed said, Not to forget
Bailouts that are 100 percent needed and run in the billions
And it's a well known fact billions miss our economy every single year we are in EU.
{Ed033's Note - UK would save billions not being in EU but a pro-EU party in power would almost certainly give all the billions back to the EU as part of extra agreements with the EU. that's another reason why it is critical for anti EU people to vote for an anti-EU party.
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27 Jun 2016 14:29:06
That's it
Then when we are out of Europe with good terms
We can then vote the next party in power
by then the next will pop up as a supposed working mans party or what ticks the boxes for people
But first we need out of this CIA operation.
That's it
Then when we are out of Europe with good terms
We can then vote the next party in power
by then the next will pop up as a supposed working mans party or what ticks the boxes for people
But first we need out of this CIA operation.
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27 Jun 2016 14:30:36
Also parliament needs to be in the middle of our country
Not London.
Also parliament needs to be in the middle of our country
Not London.
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27 Jun 2016 14:34:43
Also got a Q for me Irish
Is there no way you can infilict more damage to the govt
By uniting the country again?
Might be dumb question becuase I'm not to familier with Ireland's politics sorry.
Also got a Q for me Irish
Is there no way you can infilict more damage to the govt
By uniting the country again?
Might be dumb question becuase I'm not to familier with Ireland's politics sorry.
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27 Jun 2016 15:14:05
Exactly Ed033.
The kind of comments on MSM (radio etc)
"A woman who voted to leave the European Union has admitted she "never thought it would happen".
Barbara from the West Midlands has said she did not "understand the ramifications" that a Leave vote could cause" speak to a radio presenter on 5Li**
LOL, this is beyond a joke really. People need to take a step back, take stock and see what's really going on.
Also, from MP etc that a lot of people voted 'out' was a 'protest vote'. Come on, people are waking up, and that will be plain to see very soon, and the elite won't be able do anything about it.
Exactly Ed033.
The kind of comments on MSM (radio etc)
"A woman who voted to leave the European Union has admitted she "never thought it would happen".
Barbara from the West Midlands has said she did not "understand the ramifications" that a Leave vote could cause" speak to a radio presenter on 5Li**
LOL, this is beyond a joke really. People need to take a step back, take stock and see what's really going on.
Also, from MP etc that a lot of people voted 'out' was a 'protest vote'. Come on, people are waking up, and that will be plain to see very soon, and the elite won't be able do anything about it.
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27 Jun 2016 22:03:26
Southampton I wouldn't want to inflict damage on anyone or anything in pursuit of a united Ireland, even though I always have and always will want a united Ireland. But damaging others is not the way. I want a united Ireland that is based on respect, consent, equality and a desire for all of us to move forward wanting the best for each other as well as ourselves. Most of all we need to look at our children and ask what life we want for them. That is the only thing that should inform our aspirations.
Southampton I wouldn't want to inflict damage on anyone or anything in pursuit of a united Ireland, even though I always have and always will want a united Ireland. But damaging others is not the way. I want a united Ireland that is based on respect, consent, equality and a desire for all of us to move forward wanting the best for each other as well as ourselves. Most of all we need to look at our children and ask what life we want for them. That is the only thing that should inform our aspirations.
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27 Jun 2016 23:48:18
Well put rian
I agree.
Well put rian
I agree.
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