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Discussion #12032Talk Sense

01 Feb 2016 02:15:01
To me, just my response to some of the posts below. I read them and think, but I'm still thinking with a mind set that I've been reared on.
I've been trying to break the yoke since I was no age and have always had ideas of my own that I know if I openly suggested, I would be certified.
I'm not a stalinist, I'm not a hitlerist, I'm not a Thatcherite or a blairite etc. but I do have real life hero's, Che, Connelly, Hughes, Larkin, Costello etc. Real people that wouldn't eat from the trough. Must of which paid the ultimate sacrifice for their beliefs.
My thought is these particular group, labelled as left extremists, we're anything but, but were humanitarian and have sacrificed their lives for others regardless of their politics.

Mrs E
01 Feb 2016 07:11:28
Anything that's extreme is just that, extreme.

Including extreme left wing, that's been shown to be intolerant as well.
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grow bun28
01 Feb 2016 12:20:23
Extreme is just a derogatory term used to make people think that it's wrong when in fact it opposition to the way they want you believe! There is lots of words they use the same like wrong, illigal and criminal
{Ed033's Note - Here's the funny thing, so called 'conspiracy theorists' appear to be the calm rational ones, where as the main-stream people (those that haven't 'woken up' from the brainwashing through school, main-stream media) are the crazy extremists.
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grow bun28
01 Feb 2016 15:15:19
Conspiracy itself is one of those derogatory words that describe people who can see through the BS. In a more draconian time gone by you would get sectioned as a paranoid schizophrenic. Problem is there is too many paranoid schizophrenics to lock up now, so extremists is the word of the day to make people with clear eyes pariahs in the eyes of the sheep like a pack of wolves
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Discussion #9933Talk Sense

31 Jan 2016 21:50:11
Hello people! This may not be on subject but can any you guys recommend any youtube videos that has the best proof of aliens. I'm trying to convince my mrs, shees one of they people that just refuse to believe. What are you guys opinions on this matter? I am a true believer there's no chance we are the only race in the universe.

 

{Ed033's Note - Sorry, not my area. Does she think all ufos are human black-tech. What does she think of the pre flight photos of UFOs or the artificial structures on the moon or mars or even the human and animal mutilations?



I don't know which is the best youtube video. Here is an info rich documentary from Chris Everard
Secret Space - The Illuminati Conquest of Space
Mr.x
31 Jan 2016 22:33:22
Thanks ed, people need to know what's out there and that we are not alone.
{Ed033's Note - The animal mutilations and human mutilations can surely only be perpetrated by non humans. Below is an update to Richard D. Hall's UFO's & NATO Human Mutilation Cover Up 2015 UPDATE 1 OF 4.

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hsf
31 Jan 2016 22:51:54
There are approximately 100 million stars (suns) in the galaxy that we are in. There are approximately 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe.

If there are planets around just a small percentage of these suns (which we know there are), then there is very, very high chance that life will exist on another planet in the universe.

Not only that, a lot of scientists are now suggesting that the amino acids needed to start life on Earth, may originated on Mars and due to an asteroid impact, arrived on Earth in the debris.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, the statistical probability of life on other planets in our galaxy alone should be enough to realise there is life elsewhere.
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Discussion #9970Talk Sense

31 Jan 2016 12:06:06
What do you guys make of this in the grand scheme of all things media.

There's been a bit of a drama up here regarding a newspaper (quite a main one) sacking 2 journalists (I use the term loosely for one of them) . One of them is and its fair to say, well respected in the business. There seems to be a bit of legal stuff around a story and not being a lawyer and not knowing the full story, I've reserved my outrage.

Anyway the other one, who rightly or wrongly has courted controversy in the past and isn't as well known, already edits an online magazine.

My point in this - we are now being 'encouraged' on Social Media to stop buying or reading the newspaper and only read this online magazine? Swap one disaster for another really. One of the online mags offshoots has some of the most vile crap you will ever read in it and one of the worst things to come out of Scotland's referendum. There is A LOT of anti-English references.

Do folk ever really make up their own mind about stuff they read or have we really swapped not believing a word that's in a newspaper to taking everything as gospel from unknown internet sources - just because it isn't a newspaper doesn't make the source reliable, surely?

 

RedAndy94
31 Jan 2016 16:53:35
The sad thing is can you really trust what anyone says wether it's on a broadsheet or online? You can never know for certain who or where the information has come from or who has had a hand in it. All we can do is try to question things as much as possible and try and make our own judgements.
I find Social media terrifying, anyone can voice their opinions and it's on display for half the world, it's scary.
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Mr Ons
31 Jan 2016 18:15:46
Mrs E surely you know why they were sacked, you seem to know a lot about what they write and have a definite opinion on at least one of them. One was sacked for daring to talk about bigots and the other was sacked for posting their support for the sacked journalist. Courting controversy in Scotland means writing and talking about sectarian violence. that's why we can not end it, for fear of what will happen if you do. True to form Mrs E trying to incite a perceived hatred of England in Scotland, when in fact we just hate westminster!
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Mrs E
31 Jan 2016 19:44:59
Mr Ons not sure we're on singing from the same hymn sheet, I was talking about one person who has written anti-English stuff? Nothing to do with Westminster or the rest of Scotland.

It wasn't really about the reason why they were sacked, it was more to do with one of them pushing their own online magazine and attaching this other blogger to it (the one that writes bad stuff) that I found weird? I think the rest of the UK knows we have sectarian issues and that's why I didn't mention the reason, it can be boring to most folk outwith.

Also just the general point that RedAndy has picked up, where we have no idea who/ what the source is on the internet but some seem happy to swap the corrupt newspapers for this? No questions asked?
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Mr Ons
31 Jan 2016 21:25:07
Not sure what anti-English stuff has been written can you post a couple of links from this person. But I do know what you mean about not knowing who or what the source is. Just this week we have had the Scotsman reporter caught posing on twitter as someone else so he could abuse SNP MPs and members without recourse to himself or his newspaper.

The reason to swap from newspapers is clear to everyone on this forum, but as with everything you read, fact check it first. As for no questions asked the only reason we have such a swing in Scotland is because we have started asking questions and the powers don't like it.
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Mrs E
31 Jan 2016 21:52:43
If you know it was a Scotsman reporter then there will be recourse, I'd of thought anyway. Is the SNP MP still SNP or Independent at the moment due to financial (ahem) irregularities -just wondering if its an embarrassing exchange I seen as well?

I won't be posting links to this vileness, you'll have to take my word for this one. But if you know about the situation, you will know the online mag and the bloggers and different sites associated.

I am pro-indy but I knew it was doing more damage than good, most SNP elected members distanced themselves a long time ago from this one.

Scotland have always asked questions (I posted in the politics page as this is the anniversary of Black Friday, the Battle of George Square) but I think we're actually asking less at the moment, we've become complacent and I've never known anything like it to be honest. Its almost as if we've too scared to ask any party that's pro-indy too many questions?
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Discussion #11840Talk Sense

31 Jan 2016 13:10:15
Watched the first 2 episodes of 8 new X Files season 10 last night. Touches on a few newer subjects that have been mentioned on here in the past. First 2 episodes are out there.

 

grow bun28
31 Jan 2016 15:04:34
Where did you watch it and where can I see it in uk?
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Supasub
31 Jan 2016 17:04:06
Try couchtuner on apple/ ipad or showbox on android just to name a couple. If not google x files s10e1 or s10e2 but avoid any YouTube videos.
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Supasub
31 Jan 2016 17:04:50
Also starts in UK on channel 5 in about a week or so.
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grow bun28
31 Jan 2016 19:12:19
Cheers pal
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grow bun28
31 Jan 2016 19:54:07
Hey supa! Little help here! I'm not great on laptops but I used to download movies from yify/yts using BitTorrent , but as of late they are not reliable sites so
1. Do you know good movie torrent site!

2. I never can find anywhere to download series so do you know any good desktop sites
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Discussion #9456Talk Sense

29 Jan 2016 16:43:42
I can remember my history lessons from a young age and 80% of the topic from been 6-16 was WW2 with a strong focus on the Nazis. Germans in general are vilified from a young age.

My children have all been told and I have had conversations with the head teachers of my children's school and made a few things clear:

1. No indoctrination of my children in regards to WW2

2. Please do not involve my children in third world charity drives

3. no religious story given to children as fact, only in fictional Story like Greek mythology or not at all

It's scary as hell that schools teach our kids lies and the teachers must surely know that.

 

jimmyjones
29 Jan 2016 18:52:56
The teachers are doing what they have been told to do and that's pass on their programming, as long as you are talking to your children about world events as a whole then they have a chance, if the only place they receive an "education" is school then they are lost to the lies and the system.
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Discussion #9850Talk Sense

28 Jan 2016 19:53:17
Hi all,

First post but long time reader of this site some very interesting views are shared on here.

Read something relating to holocaust conspiracies the other day and got me intrigued. so I did some searching and as always there was loads of information relating to it.

What are people's views on this topic. slightly controversial I know especially as a first post.

 

{Ed033's Note - See, when you say holocaust, people should start asking, which holocaust are you talking about?

The Armenian holocaust? or the holocaust of the german people after WW2? or some other holocaust, as the Jewish holocaust (of which an unknown number of jewish people did really die) has so many lies about it, it's crazy.

Video below is based on the book Hellstorm by Thomas Goodrich about the unknown holocaust of german people after WWII.
lew99
28 Jan 2016 20:54:02
Thank you for the swift reply, I specifically meant ww2 and in particular Auschwitz. I read that one particular theory is that there wasn't even a gas pipe running to that area.

I thought this was the best place to get some feedback.
{Ed033's Note - i know you meant the Jewish Holocaust. The 6 million ritual figure comes from Jewish literature in the 1800s. After WW2 the russians changed certain things in 1 or more camps to make it look like there were 'death' gas chambers but the gas chambers were actually water shower rooms. There was zyclon b gas used at the camps but it was used to kill off any fleas / lice carrying deadly pathogens, which was widely used at the time in prisons even in America.

The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth
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grow bun28
28 Jan 2016 22:27:37
You could argue that the hollocaust in question was the first false flag! Or at least the most complete! The idea has been used as a blueprint ever since! And it's not controversial on here, lew!
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jimmyjones
29 Jan 2016 10:07:09
The "chimeneys" at Auschwitz were thrown up after the so called liberation, they aren't and never were connected to anything, this was admitted by a guide at the camp, the so called gas chambers weren't gas tight so would have been completely useless for the purpose of mass gassings, they were in fact actual shower rooms, as you said plenty of things on the net to look through, keep on reading, you will be amazed at how the lie has been embedded into society and the consciences of the unquestioning.
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lew99
29 Jan 2016 11:32:20
Very interesting. I hope this isn't a daft question but what is the point of false flagging ww2 concentration 'death' camps against Jews?
{Ed033's Note - To gain sympathy from everyone else to:
1. Create the State of Israel
2. To be given lots of business deals
3. To allow them to be part of the global decision making
4. To allow zionists to get into powerful positions
5. To get sympathy money
6. To allow them to get free loans
7. To allow them to start wars
8. To allow them to create Greater Israel
9. So no one can criticise Israel or Jews for anything
10. To allow them to threaten anyone or any country
any many more reasons
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KimPhilby
29 Jan 2016 13:20:47
Try looking up the holodomor if you want to see state enacted genocide. There's one never mentioned in the west.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, good one and the Irish holocaust where they were subjected to a deliberate man-made famine (which was later wrongly called the Irish Potato Famine)
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Discussion #11912Talk Sense

28 Jan 2016 09:29:14
Just found this site and reading some really interesting conversations. Recognise a few names as well from other sites.

 

{Ed001's Note - you just have to hope they don't recognise yours now or they will all be running off screaming!}
DaBhoyBhoy
28 Jan 2016 22:26:39
Tim, people think us Celtic fans are paranoid, we just live in the real world, and don't believe everything we're told.
P.S welcome, this is a great site for information that you will not see in the msm media.
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Discussion #5199Talk Sense

27 Jan 2016 12:48:34
Caravan To Midnight with special Guest Wolfgang Halbig on Sandy Hook A-Z.

 

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Discussion #9963Talk Sense

27 Jan 2016 10:48:48
Whats everyones thoughts on this zika virus, It genetically affects you and your offspring. Engineered virus or not?

 

hsf
27 Jan 2016 14:05:01
Every year there is a new "super bug" or something which just happens to appear.

Ebola, SARS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, etc.
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Rian
28 Jan 2016 11:58:20
I've read it may have been spread by genetically modified mosquito that was developed by a British biotech company called Oxitec.
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TTTS
29 Jan 2016 09:18:43
I've mentioned before that if they want to depopulate the world genetically modified mosquitoes would be the way to go.
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jimmyjones
29 Jan 2016 10:18:45
I would think that this would be a bit too indiscriminate to be used for depopulation unless the elite have had innoculation against the virus, mozzies ain't bothered who they feed off as long as they do it.
If depopulation is the name of the game, it will be done through war, starvation or mass civil unrest or all 3 in my opinion.
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TTTS
29 Jan 2016 19:41:25
Giving malaria is known as the silent killer, (Nigeria 1/ 2 million plus per annum), if the anti can be cranked up it would be a quiet and full proof method of depopulation Imagine Pakistan, Bangladesh, India and the South eastern countries being infested with a bug carrying modified mosquitoe.
I'd assume the perpetrators will have an effective antidote stashed away to protect the chosen. In those regions whilst Europe would be relatively safe given the habitat the mosquitoe requires. No doubt there will something else in mind for us.
Keeping the cogs turning in their money churning industries.
Micro chipped slaves. It's going that way.
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Discussion #5198Talk Sense

26 Jan 2016 19:25:44
What if the energy system that was used on 9/11 to 'dustify' the towers was widely known
IRREFUTABLE - Part 4 of 5

 

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Discussion #2255Talk Sense

26 Jan 2016 12:17:42
Don't know if anyone on here is interested in Scottish football? The Scottish Football Association wants to bring face recognition technology at football grounds. They are saying if you have nothing to hide then it shouldn't bother you. I disagree with that. What do you guys think?

 

{Ed033's Note - face recognition technology will be everywhere it isn't already within several years so their total control society will soon be here.
grow bun28
26 Jan 2016 20:47:34
its just as aldous huxley wrote in a brave new world
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zari
27 Jan 2016 12:26:44
One of the greatest forces in this universe is the power of belief and focus. When we accept and thus focus on the propaganda the establishment issued, so as to gradually acclimatize humans to totalitarianism, we are behaving exactly as they want us to.

The placebo effect is as effective a remedy as a real solution in 93% of the cases. In any way, those were the published numbers a few years ago.

The synergetic effect of collective focusing power has also been proven to influence outcomes. It has been used in the 80s by the FBI to influence crime rates in a city, with awe inspiring results.

In other words, believe we can peacefully coexist in a cooperative society, focus your energy (thoughts, emotions, actions) towards such a reality and it shall manifest itself.

You can also start a #BoycottSPL channel to inform the public and to collectively act against the implementation of such intrusive policies at public gathering places.
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Mrs E
27 Jan 2016 22:04:01
I'd say it's a shocker but it's become acceptable in a Country dominated by nationalist politics. Offensive Behaviour at Football Act and Named Person (State Guardian) are also examples of recent awful legislation in Scotland!
{Ed033's Note - Here's how crazy the word 'nationalism' is. They've brainwashed everyone to think being anti-national is politically correct and being politically correct makes you a good person.

However being national means you care about and want to see the best for the country where you live.

Therefore, if you're a politically correct, anti-national living in Scotland, you actually hate Scotland and would like to see it ruined (like it is being ruined) and that makes you a good person, according to their brainwashing.

That's how brainwashed you have to be, to be a politically correct, anti-national.
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Mrs E
27 Jan 2016 23:25:46
Give me an example of how nationalists have been good for Scotland over the years? Go back as far as you like.

It was your Mary Barbours (albeit a good few years ago) that did good in Scotland and still to this day, they've done nothing positive - they've backed Thatcher in the '79 election, racially abused Irish immigrants and at this moment are implementing the Tories austerity measures (even though they have power to mitigate some of them) That's not pro Scotland.

Nationalist politics has more cons than pros.
{Ed033's Note - You didn't read my post. i'm not talking about politicians. We all know politicians are no good.
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Mrs E
27 Jan 2016 23:40:58
I did read it, I've just misunderstood it :-)

I agree with you there!

I voted Yes (I'd love to see more power in our communities) but don't like SNP, I'm not sure how I'm classed anymore but it isn't popular.
{Ed033's Note - Great, we should all be nationalistic, meaning wherever we live, we should all want the best for the country where we live and we should stop the country from being ruined any way we think we can help.
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Discussion #12542Talk Sense

26 Jan 2016 10:18:43
The NSA is currently in the process of taking over computer operating systems based on linux and dismantling the open-source community.

An establishment organised group of young women are targeting programmers, setting them up and falsely accusing them of rape, discrimination and racial abuse, thereby discrediting them. Female programmers of the community are being labelled whores and are also targeted.
In the majority of cases these political correctness trolls harass people even at work and try to get them fired by contacting their bosses.

On December 28th, the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, was murdered. He was arrested twice (on the same night) on false charges and beaten to death. His tweeter account and blog were hacked, in an attempt to portray him as a racist lunatic, but were found out and then deleted as a result.

The NSAs plan is to install systems on all linux distributions, a copy of svchost.exe designed for linux, so as to standardise infiltration and manipulation procedures on operating systems using the linux kernel.

 

Kaizer
26 Jan 2016 11:27:02
what is the reason zari?
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hsf
26 Jan 2016 16:56:27
I would assume that this will be running on ring0 which means it's totally undetectable by any anti-malware and anti-virus software (they usually run on ring1, unlike Nod32 which runs ring0, or it did anyway) .

The idea that government agencies are doing this is nothing new though. The NSA have been hacking for years, whether it be civilian emails or military systems.
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zari
27 Jan 2016 11:50:08
The word "systems" should not appear in the last sentence but rather the word "systemd" (system-d) .

I can only assume as to what they are really after. It could be none, any or all of these:
They cannot get the brightest people to work for them anymore. "Fighting terrorism" is not an inspiring enough ideal for people to justify and persevere their totalitarian practices.
They want uncontrolled (read free) people to stop figuring out their encryption algorithms. Their methods are so unefficient, due to compartmentalization, that they can't compete, even with their resources.
They also want instantaneous, unlimited access to peoples' data which they cannot get when people are using non-standardized, non-commercial operating systems. The NSA can impose on governments and corporations to install backports in their systems and programs but not on people or democratic groups of people.
The NSA and their buddies are realizing that, even with all the suppressed technologies at their disposal, human ingenuity guarantees humanity the strongest hand.
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