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Discussion #12038Talk Sense

11 Feb 2016 21:21:20
What's the odds of a human brain already being installed into a robot in some "research" centre deep inside a mountain somewhere.


goo.gl/Zm26XA

 

{Ed033's Note - It's likely that any experiment you can think of, they've tried it already in an underground base somewhere.
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Discussion #5207Talk Sense

10 Feb 2016 20:19:39
NASA finds THC (the same substance in certain cannabis plants) on a meteorite.


goo.gl/L4B1JX

 

Melbourne CFC
11 Feb 2016 01:01:16
Not too surprising really. I believe its accepted by most scientists that the amino acids that are needed for life on Earth are also thought of as coming from a meteorite. Magic mushrooms or psilocybin (the psychoactive ingrediant) is also thought of as arriving on a meteorite that smashed into earth, and if I'm not mistaken they also believe that H2O, or it might be just the hydrogen atom also got introduced to Earth by meteor impacts.

It could be the origins for the conspiracy that alien life came to earth and engineered humans, as we certainly only exist thanks to the universe sending these different chemicals to our planet.

On a side note, its interesting the human brain has THC receptors, with the only known substance creating a 'high' related to THC being Marijuana. Certainly adds credance to the argument that marijuana has been used by humans, or primates, for an extremely long time, and is far more intregal to our progression as a species than some think.

Interesting stuff Ed, thanks for posting.
{Ed001's Note - I think people are missing the point, it is 'accepted' should be changed to scientists are 'guessing that'. They have absolutely no idea what is needed for life on earth, they have only just realised that not all life is carbon based, that not all life requires H2O to survive etc. As for THC receptors, you have said it there, only known, and that doesn't necessarily mean we should or are meant to use it. It doesn't even mean it is the only substance containing it.}
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Melbourne CFC
11 Feb 2016 06:25:03
I don't think I'm missing the point at all mate. I'm not stating anything as fact, and think with something as complex as life you need to open to new information changing perceived views. Saying widely accepted isn't just some random guess they've plucked out of nowhere. It's based on current knowledge of meteorites smashing Earth for millions of years, the substances they have introduced to our planet, their beliefs around those substances creating a reaction to the environment and advancements in life happening as a result. It shouldn't be taken as fact, but also shouldn't just be dismissed as guesswork.

As for THC receptors, it's just a theory and due to research being restricted for a long time around marijuana consumption, and often one sided, with a problem sort after, rather than discovered, we probably won't know just how important it has been in our conscious evolution for a while yet. I don't think anyone has to or is meant to use it, but it certainly has its benefits for our current society, as shown in Colorado. At the time of writing it is also the only known natural substance that triggers a reaction from the THC receptors and gives you a 'high'. You don't have to believe that means anything about anything, but I think that would be a very naive approach to take.
{Ed001's Note - but it is guesswork, it is the best guess they have, but it is still a guess as is most of what is accepted. I am sure it is nice to escape with, but I fail to see why all the space cadets seem to think it makes their thinking 'higher' when it clearly does not. It is naivety to think that humanity needs to use a drug to open up their mind. Why not meditate? The mind does not need outside help, it is far more powerful than that.}
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grow bun28
11 Feb 2016 11:03:33
I'm a couch space traveler and I do admit that if you look enough you will find loads of 'evidence' supporting this drug and that. But in my personal experience (and its vast) they can help you find out about yourself but shit all about anything else! I have never thought it gives you a higher knowledge. Nothing I have experienced in a trip could ever be real it's 100% nonsense but it's my little nonsense.
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Melbourne CFC
12 Feb 2016 01:32:56
Now its you who seems to be missing my point mate. I'm not saying we 'need to use a drug'. I'm saying its known that we have used this drug for tens of the thousands of years. Its known its been on our planet for millions of years. Our brain has delevoped receptors that sole purpose that we know of (you can argue that means nothing as its stated as the only known use, but until you put forth another, or one is discovered, your arguement is lacking) is to process THC, which has a high that is only induced through smoking the plant (eating it causes a reaction in the liver and a different 'high' altogether. ) So to think our brain developed receptors that process the psychoactive compound of the plant, and alter our state of consciousness and to be so narrow minded to believe that it could have no impact of our conscious advancement over the past 200,000 years is extremely naive.

As anyone who reads this page knows I'm a huge fan of meditation/ floatation tanks/ sensory deprivation tanks etc, and don't for a second believe you need a plant, or a drug if you prefer that term, although I hope you also use the same terminology for coffee, tea or any other natural plant that effects your brain function, in order to reach higher states, however to believe it hasn't had an impact on our advancement in consciousness, is in my opinion, wholly naive.

Not once have I said humanity needs it. But they've certainly used it for thousands of years of known use, and have had access to it for millions more. I have seen you constantly talk about the missing link in the expansion of our brain and neural processes in terms of evolution, yet it seems if a theory, which is exactly how I have presented this, gets put forward, and has substantial evidence to back it up, isn't claimed as fact, but a possibility you are quick to shoot it down. Seems strange mate.
{Ed001's Note - actually it is more you that is naive enough to believe that it has effects that advance us! Typical of the space cadet who uses terms like 'high' to describe the effect as if it is improving them, instead of just turning them into annoying tits who giggle like small children over nothing and devolve into almost moronic levels while believing they are showing great insight. Sorry but humanity is responsible for its own advancement, plants/drugs/whatever, are just a side issue for people to hide behind.

Seen me constantly talk? You have never seen me mention that, as I have never talked about that particular missing link once. It is not even something I believe in, as we have a smaller brain and neural capacity than neanderthal, so not sure how we have advanced in that area according to you.}
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Melbourne CFC
12 Feb 2016 01:47:43
Just to clarify mate, I certainly don't think you're a naive person, just your argument on this seems to be a naive approach to take. These pages have tought me plenty, which can be directly attributed to yourself, and the other Eds, so as always appreciate the work you lot do.
{Ed001's Note - don't worry mate, I understand what you mean, but I just think your input on this is badly flawed by your use of the plant in question clouding your judgement. There is nothing to suggest it advances us, just because our body or mind can respond to the stimuli. It is simply a tool, not a reason.}
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Discussion #5206Talk Sense

10 Feb 2016 13:26:37
David Icke interview on his new book, "Phantom Self".

 

Mr.x
11 Feb 2016 10:54:16
To be honest guys I think David icke is "trippin" on some of the things he says. Maybe not all the things he says but most. The mans on the right track though and I thank him for all the hard work he puts in.
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hsf
12 Feb 2016 05:18:58
I can't trust a mans word after he's claimed to be Jesus. I just can't take a man seriously after that.
{Ed001's Note - did he actually claim that? Either way, the guy was in the middle of a nervous breakdown and was set up on live TV to be made a fool of. I would forget all of that stuff, it is not a fair way to judge him.}
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hsf
12 Feb 2016 21:21:53
Are you referring to the Terry Wogan interview? Yeah he was being set up on that which is wrong, even Terry said that it never sat well with him what they did.
{Ed033's Note - It's pretty bizarre, after everything that David Icke has ever wrote in any of his books or said after wogan, most people only associate 2 words with him, 1. jesus, 2. lizards and the funny thing is, he never said, "i am jesus" and never used the term, "lizards" as far as i know.
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Discussion #2469Talk Sense

10 Feb 2016 07:01:41
Just a quick question for Kim - do you have any info on 'acoustic kittys'? I just found the whole idea hilarious until I read about the CIA actually going ahead with the program and releasing some.

 

KimPhilby
10 Feb 2016 13:59:41
I don't think I could add much more beyond what you already know. Goes to show what too much budget creates. Its up there with the trained dolphins and the exploding cigar attempt on Castro. There's probably even more bizarre things they won't admit to.
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Discussion #5205Talk Sense

09 Feb 2016 21:38:29
16 methane wells are leaking huge amounts of methane in California USA, which is a disaster in itself but some of that methane has turned into formaldehyde, which is seriously damaging to health.

Melbourne CFC
10 Feb 2016 00:33:02
Its been going on for a while now and is considered to be having a bigger environmental impact than the BP Gulf of Mexico oil spill. Pretty scary stuff, especially when its receiving a media black out by just about everyone.

Would love Ed002s views, if he's around, as I know he has spent a lot of time in the Californian area.
{Ed002's Note - Although I was born in the Pacific Northwest I grew up in California but way north of where the problems are around Greater Los Angeles. Obviously this is a very sad state of affairs. Whilst SoCal Gas were looking to start burning off some of the leaking gas but there were a number of legal hurdles in the way and that plan was scrapped in favour of putting relief pipes in and then sealing the storage tanks with concrete. I am not that close to the story but I am aware that SoCal Gas has now to deal with a number of lawsuits that perhaps have waited until a solution is in place. I have a colleague who lives in the San Fernando Valley close to Porter Ranch and I have seen some messages from him to other colleagues about a number of environmenta issues - but I have not been following it.}
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Melbourne CFC
10 Feb 2016 13:49:49
Fair enough mate. Thanks for the response all the same.
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Discussion #12037Talk Sense

09 Feb 2016 13:02:58
Anyone thinking of attending the 2016 richplanet tour?

 

rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
10 Feb 2016 20:27:16
Doesn't look like it TTTS.
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TTTS
10 Feb 2016 22:39:22
Would be tempted to attend the london gig . Only 11 miles away . Maybe try and get of the graveyard shift for it .
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Discussion #9851Talk Sense

08 Feb 2016 20:39:28
Anyone watching the new x-files, a great set of talking points raised.

 

lew99
08 Feb 2016 21:41:54
Lots of mentions regarding my 'favourite' subject 9/11. get ridiculed for sharing your views though. Everyone saw it 'LIVE' on tv so it must be true!
{Ed033's Note - With Manhattan, 'Everyone' saw skyscrapers being turned to dust using some unknown black technology. Everyone was told that skyscrapers collapsed due to fire. Most everyone believed what they were told.

Some people try to show the ridiculers the building 7 take down because you only need to get the ridiculer to watch a video for a few seconds and in addition, they didn't know that there was another building take down other than the twin towers and building 7 wasn't hit by a 'plane' and it looks like building 7 was a controlled demolition. Afterwards if the ridiculer is then intrigued, they may be open to watching a longer video.
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Supasub
09 Feb 2016 00:15:03
I've seen the 1st 3 already *smug look*. The 3rd one is rubbish but then they seem to do tongue in cheek ones now and again.
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grow bun28
09 Feb 2016 11:41:19
Yeah I found the first episode ok the second is good and the third is maybe the worst X files episode ever
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Supasub
09 Feb 2016 13:26:01
The first episode and last 2 are directed by Chris carter which I presume will be the best ones. The others I think must be guest directors.
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northernbeasle
09 Feb 2016 18:29:54
great first episode. loved the back engineered craft in the faraday cage.

Has anyone seen the Ron Garner interview on youtube, very interesting, something defo going on check it out if you haven't seen it.
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Discussion #5204Talk Sense

08 Feb 2016 19:41:37
Short speculative video about Maria Orsic and the VRIL Society.

 

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Discussion #11841Talk Sense

08 Feb 2016 19:41:29
It's been announced that Messi is going to have more treatment for a recurring kidney problem. Kidney damage is often a side effect of steroid use. Just saying.

 

{Ed033's Note - Messi probably takes something or other on a regular basis that could eventually cause health problems.
Supasub
08 Feb 2016 19:53:25
I know high levels and prolonged use of vitamin C can ca use kidney problems/ stones ed. Just think it's a bit coincidental.
{Ed033's Note - yes, i'm not saying you're incorrect, it's likely Messi is taking something 'enhancing'
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TTTS
10 Feb 2016 01:01:22
Ed 007 mentioned Messi before and something about a medical condition he had, only for some drug he would never be able to perform at the level he does. Not quoting him exactly but something in those lines.
{Ed007's Note - The young Lionel Messi was given HGH (Human Growth Hormone) and with Barcelona the only club willing to pay for it that's where he ended up. That was the deal his father was touting, pay for his son's treatment and he'll sign for you. River Plate and Newell's Old Boys passed on the deal despite the potential of 13 years old Messi. Without being pumped full of HGH (and questionably other means too e.g. Dr Fuentes handy work with blood over the years) Messi would have led a perfectly normal life but would never have been a professional sportsman.
Lance Armstrong has confessed to using testosterone and HGH as part of a his own recovery system.
The argument is that without HGH Messi would never have been a footballer - it's like Peter Parker trying to climb a building without being bit by a spider.}
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Supasub
10 Feb 2016 22:33:16
Yes ed and as most of us know any human being taking or to have taken hgh including retrospectively is pretty much banned across all sports and potentially carries a lifetime ban.
{Ed007's Note - That's never going to happen with the poster boy and Barca. It makes me sick to see how self-righteous Barca are and seeing people fawning over them like they are the model club for everyone else to match up to. That's a bit off topic for on here right enough. I'd bust a nut laughing if they ever go pulled up for their shenanigans though ;)
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Supasub
11 Feb 2016 14:10:44
Yes ed. I think it goes further than their training ground milkshakes. For quite some time I suspect that referees were swayed especially when Rossell was there when also holding a position with nike. For a few years they had so much protection you only had to look at a Barcelona player and they would be awarded a free kick. Whenever teams against them appeared to get a foothold in the game then the opposing team would get an extremely harsh / dubious red card against them such as Rvp for arsenal when they got back in the game (just 1 example) . I'm sure people in fifa and uefa were aware nd were happy as Barcelona brought in a lot of sponsorship money for the game. Hopefully the truth will come out regarding Fuentes and the rest.
{Ed007's Note - The fact that the Spanish courts ordered blood bags to be destroyed leads me to think that the 'major' stars will go unpunished. Have a read at this, but there still doesn't seem to be anything new since last month.

http://goo.gl/wUjT2Z
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Supasub
11 Feb 2016 15:48:12
Good article ed and I think I've read it already as I've been following the episode the whole time. What's the betting that the appeals fail. I'm guessing though that at some point someone if not fuentes himself is going to spill the beans for a large sum of money.
{Ed007's Note - It'll be a brave man that blows the lid on it but I think there would be a lot more money to be made by keeping quiet about it - and it would be safer!}
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Discussion #9614Talk Sense

07 Feb 2016 20:55:55
Evening Guys/ Gals.

Just after some links to some videos about the creation of Israel etc.

Just had an operation and have about a month off work now. So anything you have would be greatly appreciated.

 

{Ed033's Note - The History of the Middle East (Part 2/5)
Contains info on the creation of Israel
jamesmack8
07 Feb 2016 21:24:07
Thanks ed. Going to get through all of them hopefully. I watched the Hitler documentary in full and found it amazing.

I always log into the site and to be honest, some of the sites discussions goes over my head. I wouldn't say I'm stupid but it's a lot to take in and get your head around. Just knowing where to start seems like half the battle.
{Ed033's Note - Well done for getting through the hitler documentary.
If you watch enough of the different videos posted on this site, you should get up to speed at some point.
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kingkenny7
08 Feb 2016 16:49:26
ed 33 I watched the hilter documentary. I learnt more about the man and the state of Germany in that film than the msm or school would have ever had let me know. brilliant site by the way. do you have any docs or films about the American mafia as I've always had the thought the fbi were complicit in a lot of the mobs activities.

esp when they allow certain things to happen because so and so is wearing a wire. the idea that a person can kill, run protection rackets fund the drug trade etc as long as they are squealing on others has always made me feel uneasy. thanks for your time.
{Ed033's Note - Well done, that's great that you learnt something you wouldn't of otherwise known about.

The government agencies do work with the mafia but i don't know of any specific documentaries about it off the top of my head, but the below video interview may give you a small insight into this.

Pete Brewton is interviewed about his book, The mafia, cia and george bush.
About the Savings and Loans companies (S&Ls) scandal.
part 1 of 2
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kingkenny7
09 Feb 2016 02:39:40
thanks for your reply ed 33. I will watch this when I get the chance. I also loved the weird scenes inside the canyon documentary you posted. as a massive fan of music from that era it was a real eye opener. this brilliant site can be summed up by a pearl jam song called nothing as it seems. its like living inside 2 worlds the one the mainstream want us to believe without questioning ANYTHING. And the one you and the other posters help people like me learn and understand, subjects the msm won't touch with a 10ft barge pole. great site.
{Ed033's Note - Thanks. There are a number of Star Trek episodes that show all the crew apart from one or 2 who are mind controlled (by non human entities) into believing in a different reality. We appear to have been in a Star Trek episode all our lives so far.
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KimPhilby
09 Feb 2016 11:58:59
Go back to the American invasion of Sicily and the deal the government did with a hood called lucky Luciano. There's one starting point. Mussolini had destroyed the mafia in Italy. The Americans allowed it back.
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kingkenny7
11 Feb 2016 18:11:21
thanks for the tip kim. I will look into it. in your own opinion why do you think the americans allowed it back, like most things I suppose money and power comes into it, that allows people to be corrupted and blackmailed etc the whole thing has fascinated me for years.
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Discussion #11795Talk Sense

07 feb 2016 13:24:54
anyone know of any websites/ videos to learn about what's happening in iraq and countries over the world + overall history etc.

thanks guys :) , hope you understand what i mean!

 

{Ed033's Note - i think you may want to know about the ottoman empire

rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
07 Feb 2016 16:34:15
History Of the Middle East Part 1 of 5

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Discussion #12036Talk Sense

07 Feb 2016 01:26:05
We are slaves? .

 

{Ed033's Note - They have many companies/corporations with shareholders. With a company/corporation with shareholders, everything is done for the benefit of the shareholders. They always assume you work (24/7 as a legal person) for 1 or more of their companies/corporations with shareholders but you're never a shareholder and they force the company/corporation rules upon you (statutes, acts, regulations). A few examples of their companies/corporations with shareholders: UK, EU, USA, Canada, Australia, Crown.
rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
07 Feb 2016 09:05:54
Larken Rose video - The Jones Plantation. How to con slaves into thinking they are free.

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