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Discussion #9227Talk Sense

11 Nov 2014 09:49:41
i have been listening to a lot of music recently and how its effected my emotion, made me feel happy/sad and making me feel like I could change the world, like everything now days the industry years ago was a lot more free, bands /singers had more scope to write and sing what they want, now music is just manufactured vibrations that as much substance to them as flight meal on easyjet.

when was the last time you heard a song that made you think about anything?

being from Liverpool I am a massive Beatles fan and even now 50 years later their music inspires me to want to change the world, could you imagine a USA audience singing back in the USSR?music can bring anyone together but now its flooded with sounds that do nothing for your soul, I might be getting old and sounding like my dad but were are the u2/the jam/paul weller etc etc acts today?

 

{Ed001's Note - you do know the Beatles were a manufactured band mate? They did an ambulance service benefit concert for my grandad (10th on the bill) and were meant to do two sets but were so bad on their first set he had to pay them off rather than allow them to do a second set. Ken Dodd topped the bill, mostly because he was my grandad's best mate, and he advised him to get them off before there was a riot.}
frankyscouser
Haha really?yeah mate I know the early stuff was a boy band of today , I meant late 60s revolver/white/peppers and after the beatles broke up lennon/mccartney and harrinson made music that made you think.
{Ed001's Note - yes mate, really. They couldn't play their instruments.}
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frankyscouser
What year are we talking edd 58/59 pre hamburg?
{Ed001's Note - not sure off the top of my head, mate, but pretty sure it is after that, hence why they were given two sets.}
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11 Nov 2014 18:21:52
Franky try some Shostakovich or Rachmaninoff. And of course Tchaikovsky.

Kim Philby
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HERBIE
Only 1 band that inspires me, even though some of there music was absolute tosh (ummagumma album).
Pink Floyd, the best there ever was and ever will be.
Quintessentially English.
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Supasub
Do you think they were influenced herbie? Given the symbolism pink Floyd used.
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Discussion #11104Talk Sense

10 Nov 2014 21:28:01
Hi guys, first time poster. I just wanted peoples opinions on a book I've been told about recently; The Secret by Rhonda Byrne. i'm not 100% sure about it myself and wanted to know if anyones read it or believes/doesnt believe in the science behind it

thanks

 

{Ed033's Note - i saw the video version of 'The Secret'. The problem with it is it misses out the most vital part, it actually misses out 'The Secret', which is taking appropriate action.

What this video shows is that if anyone just imagines something they want, it will magically manifest itself into their life. Obviously, imagination alone won't work, it's obvious that to manifest something into your life requires appropriate action.
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Discussion #9491Talk Sense

10 Nov 2014 06:34:48
http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Single-adults-banned-park-case-paedophiles/story-24504134-detail/story.html

This story was in my home town local paper, looks like a blatant attempt of diversion. The Paedo's in parliament trying to point the finger in a different direction, trying to make the people forget about them in the process.
Shocking that they don't mind labelling the single people as potential paedo's.

 

frankyscouser
It would not surprise me the people or person who made that crazy law had skeletons in their cupboard, we know who the real powerful pedo rings are based and it is not based in any of those parks.
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10 Nov 2014 13:16:03
That's quite frankly disgusting. What about the married paedos?
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Thats a disgrace, I have some problems with depression and in the nice weather (which admittedly is rare in this country) I like to go sit in the park, chill out a bit, soak up the atmosphere etc.

So now i'm a predator lurking around for kids am i. absolute disgrace.

mort
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HERBIE
I sometimes bike through a park on the way to work simply because it takes 5 mins off my travel time, now i'm just going to leave 5 mins earlier and take the long route.
It seems to me like we are been pushed to the limits with these stupid laws, when will it stop?
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frankyscouser
Its a diversion tactic if the people, if the Scunthorpe people suggested that their local council should be looking at there foster homes instead of parks then you might get somewhere, think about it 99% of people are normal people who use the park, I have a feeling that its safer to use the park for a child than being in some foster homes.
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Discussion #5019Talk Sense

10 Nov 2014 06:07:10
{Ed033's Note - You may have heard about a connection between Egypt and Planet Mars, specifically Giza and Cydonia (Mars) but apparently, the necropolis of Edessa (northern syria) is a man made smaller copy of Silbury Hill in England and the Silbury Hill/Avebury area is a man made smaller copy of the Cydonia region on planet Mars.



David Flynn - Mars/Earth Connection: Cydonia, Genesis 3, Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ophC-_WZq8k

David Flynn - Mars/Earth Connection: Cydonia, Genesis 3, Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDYjktwJC-g

A Sphinx On Mars?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxlzyhtzNSM

 

rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
{Ed033's Note - Wayne Hershel shows Mars face & Cydonia features match stars on a star map and shows a special star that the top masons have been searching for.

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frankyscouser
So that guy thinks humans was on mars 17 thousand years ago?
{Ed033's Note - Yes, That's part of his theory. He wrote a manuscript to become a book called The Hidden Records but for some reason no one ended up publishing it. Then he found out that his manuscript was being passed around to different people because a few top masons went to see him and told him so and that what he found is what they had been searching for and he should keep quiet as other to masons didn't want this info out.

He then self published the book and went on a few radio shows to promote the book, then got scared off writing a part 2 of the book or talking about this stuff.
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frankyscouser
So top masons do not want the general public to know that certain humanoids have always had knowledge? Illuminati?
{Ed033's Note - i don't know the difference between top masons and Illuminati but either way people who think they're at the 'top' don't want certain info let out to us.
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10 Nov 2014 20:39:16
Franky why not?

We know there's gaps in the biological record regards the jump from ape to man.

We know there's gaps in the archaeological record.

It would explain the face 'modern civilization' has only been around 8-10000 years but 'modern man' is much older based on the fossil record.

It could explain all the ancient mythologies of visiting gods etc in practically every culture around not to mention the array of monuments.

Mort
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Kash.
Ed, any specific reason they wouldn't want the general public to know, is it mass hysteria or panic or something else? I mean, it's in human nature to ask questions, and there'll be loads of them. Yes, if true, then it's absolutely remarkable out of this world (literally) stuff, and surely the public have a right to know!
{Ed033's Note - yes, we have the right to know but it's always been the case that the royalty/high priest types keep info from the people to keep the people ignorant and dumbed down. An ignorant/dumbed down population is easier to control.

We have the www now so this info they have can be spread amongst the people.
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Discussion #5018Talk Sense

09 Nov 2014 15:46:08
{Ed033's Note - Author Ralph Ellis shares a small part of his research on who he believes Jesus really is in the historical record and the origins of Christianity.

 

Garbo
Very Interesting, Cheers Ed
{Ed033's Note - ok, thanks
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Discussion #5017Talk Sense

09 Nov 2014 11:29:18
{Ed033's Note - An author bought photocopies of Lee Harvey Oswald's address book and claims there are codes written in the address book and wrote a book about it.

The Oswald Code - The Secrets of Oswald's Address Book

 

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Discussion #9226Talk Sense

09 Nov 2014 10:37:50
if you look down the page you might have read my post about my local mp luciana berger. well police have been arresting people who are supposedly making anti Semitic protest to miss berger.

let me make this clear, I detest any crap like that, no doubt my email was looked at by police/security agents and maybe was put in a list of possible activists? a house no more than 5 mins walk from my home was raided so can you imagine if my reply email was stronger?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/merseyside-neo-nazis-arrested-after-planning-8072355

 

Not Registered
09 Nov 2014 10:58:33
There's a difference between expressing your concerns to your 'democratically' elected representatives and sending vile filth. If they are neo nazis then that's good they've been arrested, I despise neo nazis.
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frankyscouser
I agree on neo nazi stuff but all this anti Semitic stuff only really seems to get mentioned when genuine people like myself question my local mp party on subjects like gaza, I think the term is flame thread, where someone will ask a serious question then you seem to get all of these neo nazis groups crop up out of the woodwork then the question gets lost and cast to one side, as a former judge tweeted to me that " fellow-Zionist, John Mann, is pushing for those with anti-Zionist views etc to be banned from using the Internet".

me personally think these neo nazi groups are staged and paid for to recruit persons and use them when needed.
{Ed033's Note - There's always controlled opposition. i wonder how many of these social media attacks towards miss berger were actually perpetrated by paid agents, like the social media attacks on J. K. Rowling by british intelligence agents. The combat 18 group is allegedly run by British Intelligence.
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frankyscouser
It seems it was a anti Semitic tweet to miss berger that got him jailed 'You can always trust a Jew to show their true colours eventually. '

whether this person is a paid agent or more prob a person the question has to be asked is it right to be jailed for your own views?is freedom of speech gone? if that's the case then sites like this will be monitored (i think it is already) then ten years down the line we will all be warned and possibly arrested over posts.
{Ed001's Note - it is not like we can with hold any information either, as they just access it without asking! So you can't even talk privately online anywhere at all. Sad state of affairs, Big Brother is here, it is just less visible than it was in the book 1984.}
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frankyscouser
Freedom of speech now means you are either anti Semitic or a activist.
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09 Nov 2014 13:23:54
Free speech went years ago, you can't criticise any ethnic or religious group, whether its jewish, muslim, anyone without the race card being played, the anti semite card, the islamophobe card. The debate on immigration in this country was stifled on the racism card.

1984 is here but they were smart enough to not be as overt.
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Discussion #2046Talk Sense

08 Nov 2014 11:22:10
I think it was Roscojef who mentioned the unusual death of John Kennedy Jr. last week? Anyway, if you have time, this is a very interesting documentary about his death.

Assassination of JFK, JUNIOR, in it's entirety.

http://youtu.be/IM5sLX5kKFo

Ryan.

 

RoscoJEF
Yes Ryan it was me. Thanks for that mate I'll get a watch of it soon as. Cheers
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Discussion #11824Talk Sense

08 Nov 2014 09:25:52
A bit strange this Canibal homeless man who has been found eating some girl's face. Apparently high on drugs. I still remember the incident in miami a year or 2 ago also "high" on drugs (bath salts) or something like that if anyone has heard of it?

Again, a man eating someone else's face. They were both homeless but that's not the point. Could it be that there are drugs out there now making people potentially primally aggressive and in some cases doing something like this?

 

Not Registered
I've heard of pcp having a similar affect, just google pcp stories, that's some messed up reading,
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Discussion #9490Talk Sense

07 Nov 2014 17:24:56
Poll of the day question, not sure if its a wind up or not but i'll bite anyway.
NO
Even if we were, we have our own feelings and thoughts which IMO makes it the real world.
Actually can't believe 2 people voted yes. :-)

 

{Ed033's Note - No wind up, Philip K. Dick believed we were living in a programmed reality and held a press conference to say so.

Jim Elvidge interview on Red Ice Radio - Are we Living in a Simulation, a Programmed Reality?

Part 1 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z1GgKujcTs

Part 2 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_siOakzOEAA

Part 3 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76DQ1pmvs0

Part 4 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGe6qr4egz4
HERBIE
Listened to the first one, will get the rest later.
Still not convinced by this but as always will give it a chance and keep an open mind but this all seems just a little to crazy for me. I'm not a quantum physics type of guy and admittingly when I listen to things like that I turn into a Homer Simpson.
{Ed033's Note - i'm not saying we do live in a programmed reality but when anyone thinks they have reality pinned down, it's time to get some new info.
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frankyscouser
Haha herbie that homer joke had me laughing, I am out for a few drinks tonight and will try to catch over the weekend, is this simulation like a kind of matix that we can not see?
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HERBIE
No idea Franky, I can't see it.
:-)
{Ed033's Note - The theory being that in a hundred years or so, we will be able to create a simulated reality.

However, it is actually more likely that we're already there in the future and so we're all now living in a simulated reality.
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Joe
Like the holo-deck on Star Trek
{Ed033's Note - yes or you're placed in a pod or avatar or machine like the matrix.

Think about this, when you can afford to retire and if the technology exists, people may like to enter into a simulation where their memory is wiped and they then play a 'game of life' in a programmed simulation. If they 'die' in the simulation, they get a memory wipe and they restart the game.

It's possible that with a few people, the memory wipe isn't perfect and there are a few vague memories from before.

And just like the matrix, it's not a perfect game world where it's all peace and harmony but it's good vs evil.
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There is a movie that presents reality as being a simulated universe by the title: "The Thirteenth Floor" that came out in 1999.

Research money is being made available to mainstream science in return for it proving that the initial spark that gave rise to the universe was a random event. By identifying the equations of natural mechanisms ("laws of physics") one can trace the source that powers said mechanisms, the means through which they affect the universe and how they trigger sequential mechanisms. In doing so one begins to notice the evident patterns of the universe or of those mechanisms that give rise to the universe.

Infinity is a concept forever alien to a finite mind. For by merely perceiving one of its infinite aspects, that which is limited is rendered limitless, that which is captive becomes free.
This is the reason for the establishment's funding and promotion of nullifying concepts and nihilist scientists. In this way all variables in said equations are quantified and subsequently turned into stupidly labelled, conditional constants. Through their subsequent differentiation those constants become zero and zero can only be defined in relation to infinity.
As such, one enters a vicious circle.

The reason the above is mentioned is to prehensile that the argument between a simulated universe and an unpredictable one is that of order and chaos.
In quantifying variables, one brings conditional order to an equation. On the contrary, through transcendental numbers (hyper-dimensional variables) one witnesses infinity.

I believe the universe and all that it contains can be explained through mathematics. By identifying the equations of all perceivable natural mechanisms and setting them in the appropriate sequence (microcosmmacrocosm) in a power matrix (see math for "power" and computer programming for "matrix"), would produce a software program that would simulate/emulate the universe.
Of course for this to be possible one would need a relatively infinite power source and a frequency differential of about 10^64.

There is a theory that states that, when one perceives every variable in the universe, another manifests and thus the universe rearranges itself into something new, thus requiring recalculation.
Admittedly, this notion could be used to support the theory that the universe is a relatively perpetual simulation machine, but could also be taken to infer that the universe is a consciousness that perpetually promotes the evolution of consciousness.

In conclusion, I think the question that should be asked is not whether the universe is a computer simulation or not, but whether mathematics are the language of the universe and thus computers have been modeled according to the currently perceivable universe.
zari
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Discussion #9225Talk Sense

07 Nov 2014 15:12:41
just been looking up on the hilda Murrell case and like Ryan said it has similarities to Dr David Kelly, one thing is clear to me is I do not think it was a planned assassination like Kelly as it was sloppy.

i do think she did disturb the agents and then was murdered, also why her home was searched then ultimately murdered is a mystery in its self, was it to do with the sinking of the Belgrano in the Falklands war, or was it to do with her work in trying to abolish nuclear power plants?

her nephew thinks the latter. I read that Micheal Mansfield QC was taking up the case (the victims of the pedo ring in Parliament want him to be the independent inquirer ) its very hard to get good info and links to this case but I found that there is a song about Hilda Murrel that is banned, I WONDER WHY?

the song has interesting lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lSnFdWxUY

 

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Discussion #2045Talk Sense

07 Nov 2014 04:32:45
i saw this and thought you know what its true

http://zenpencils.com/comic/24-george-carlin-on-assassination-explicit/

Mort

 

frankyscouser
A sad/funny and imaginative link mort, it sort of needs to be asked this question and I want all the edds 001/002/007 and edd 033 and followers to this site to answer this.

would the world be a safer place today if jfk never got assassinated?
{Ed002's Note - It would be a different place Franky, but whether or not an event of 50 years ago would result in it being safer or not I don't know. I very much suspect that in the next few years something will happen on the streets of a major European city that will further destabilise the thought that the streets are "safe".}
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frankyscouser
Always thought of you as a skeptic edd002 about most of the stuff written on here but clearly from your last comment you can see there is a agenda.
{Ed002's Note - Overt realist Franky.}
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frankyscouser
Yeah true, pity your football rumor followers can not see it.
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Supasub
There are a few from the United page that come on here now and probably others who you don't know about because they don't post.
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HERBIE
I don't think it would be any safer if JFK was'nt assassinated, the agenda would of carried on regardless.
The US president does not and never will have the power to change things, he is merely a puppet to his masters.
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