02 Apr 2014 10:41:16
i just thought I would share this with you all, I got talking to tom slemen on twitter.
tom is a famous Liverpool author and leading expert on all things paranormal.
he posted about a book called "the towers" which was oddly about a holy war and the twin towers come down,
the book was wrote in 1996, now that's odd enough but tom says he found that book hours before the attack, so I asked had he any of these premonitions before? he replied as a youngster he predicted the toxteth riots.
the thing that sent shivers down my spine was when I asked if he has seen anything else that has not happened, he replied" Most common dreams of disaster reported to me are a mushroom cloud and some unspecified destruction of city center St John's tower"
"theTower is always seen falling in these dreams or lying embedded in the ground"
then tom states these facts.
St John's Beacon is about 450 feet tall but narrow in relation to its height. That structure has been subjected to the Mersey wind.
. since around 1967, swaying back and forth, and also subject to regular rain. I'd get out of there if I was the radio station
tom
"it's just a matter of time. I've been up there when its windy and you feel the place move.
" Ronan Point heights in Scotland collapsed like a pack of cards many years back. The elements are constantly undermining foundations"
"Quite a few years, but have also received reports of the same dream from readers for just as long"
i just thought I would share that convo with you, now a lot of you make think its all BS but he is a respected author.
here is a link to the towers book.
http://twitpic.com/e01tdg
I'm embarrassed to say that, although I am aware of Tom Slemen, I have not read any of his books. This despite the good feedback I have heard from those who have. Embarrassed because he is a local author (to you and me both mate) and his genre is very interesting.
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, to those unfamiliar with St. John's Beacon, how scary it is being at the top when the wind is howling about it. I remember going countless times when I was a kid, in them days it was a restaurant rather than a radio station. It was a pretty frightening ordeal (if heights aren't your thing) when the wind rocked it from its foundations. As you say mate, years of being weather beaten must surely take it's toll on such a structure. If nothing else it is certainly an iconic Liverpool building.
Can you recommend any of Tom's books please Franky?
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Alright mate I would suggest reading his free edition chapters and see if you like them, I will give you the link and scroll down to just under half way down until you come to "some published tales" where there are different chapters on strange paranormal events that happened.
Toxteth Bloodsuckers is the first story then theirs another 20/30 stories that are free, it will give you a clue if you want to buy any of his in books.
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Sorry thought I posted the link.
http://www.slemen.com/
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Cheers for the link Franky, I'll take a look at his site.
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01 Apr 2014 11:17:36
Ed002,
What do you make of the supposed links between Owsley Stanley, the Greatful Dead and the CIA?
Also, do you know anything of the rumour that 2 of the band members were members of Bohemian Grove? or is that just conjecture?
I will look further into the hells angels as I am interested in organised crime subjects, all I know is about their reputation for trafficking drugs and violence of course.
I have seen some of the vidoes you mentioned but will view the others in due course, its nice to be talking about such things as a break from some of the darker subjects.
Harold
{Ed002's Note - Owsley died a short-while back in Australia but his wife Sheila has control of all of the tapes he recorded and a significant stash of his jewellery which is worth a lot nowadays. The Dead wrote a song about Owsley called Alice D Millionaire but there is no connection to the CIA. It is true that Micky Hart and Bobby Weir are Bohos.}
Thanks Ed002. Sorry to pester you but what are your thoughts on the Grove? Is it as conspiratorial as we are lead to believe or just a bunch of influential people having innocent fun in public?
Harold
{Ed002's Note - Just a bunch of guys hanging out.}
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That's no fun Ed but I thought that would be your answer!
Forgot to add further down the page - your friend Kevin Ayres must have been an inspiration to my favourite band of all time, Gorky Zygotic Mynci (who happen to have gone to my school and lived near me since), as they wrote a song with his name as the title. I think they covered/rearranged a song by Robert Wyatt too called 'O caroline'. And i'm sure some of that crew have come down to the Laugharne literature festival (west Wales) which is very near my homeland. Its a small world.
Harold
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Hi edd02
I tried posting this link on the previous discussion as I came a cross it yesterday
http://12160.info/m/blogpost?id
=2649739%3ABlogPost%3A795447
{Ed002's Note - Anger's films, regardless of Bobby Beausoliel being involved are simply gay leather biker flicks. What I did read appears to be simply a ramble. Certainly the pranksters were nothing to do with the Illuminati - and I know several of them.}
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Hey Harold, if you are at a festival and someone mentions the Grateful Dead and then the "suck your face" skull, be extra cautious of what you consume.
Some people have been using that ridiculous meme as an opener for aggressive conditioning.
I have no proof of a cia connection but it wouldn't surprise me.
zari
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Thanks for the tip zari, I hope you don't know that from experience!
Harold
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31 Mar 2014 13:16:50
this post is to edd02 about the 60s/70s scene, what in your opinion caused all these disturbances?interesting to know what you think, cheers franky!
{Ed002's Note - I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and went to university in Berkeley. We had continual protests and riots related to (a) Free Speech Movement, (b) Delano Grape Pickers, (c) Black Panthers, (d) People's Park, (e) Ronald Reagan sending the National Guard in to Berkeley, and most significantly (f) Vietnam and later (g) Cambodia.}
Which brings me to my original post, do you think which the musicians who were against many of the reasons you stated, do you think it is possible for hired hands/activists to cause trouble at many of the festivals, hence stopping the cause in its tracks?
{Ed002's Note - I wrote a really long answer to this which was somehow lost Franky. To summarise. It wasn't the bands, it was simply the times. (a) The bands in Berkeley were heavily political which the bands in San Francisco were not. Country Joe and The Fish supported both Mario Savio and Robert Scheer throughout. Two members will be touring the UK this summer with The Former Members - check them out - maybe meet Ed002. (b) The strike went on for years and cost Safeway a serious bundle. The bands were playing in support as they were for the Port Chicago Vigil - look it up. (c) The bands supported the Panthers and in particular Huey P Newton - maybe something to regret in hindsight. (d) People's Park was an issue with the University and led to a strike. The bands played on. (e) Check some neat movies the Strawberry Statement, Bobby Roth's Berkeley and Zabriskie Point. A great learning curve.
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Franky, was it you that mentioned Laurel Canyon below?
Having done some reading over the weekend into the canyon I can see why there are theories surrounding the movement that occurred there, particularly from 1965 til the early 1970's. The parental links of many of the scene's forerunners to the military/industrial complex and the number of mysterious deaths are difficult to rationalise at face value. Jim Morrison's dad, for instance, was apparently the guy in charge of the fleet of ships that were bombed (or not as it turned out) during the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Many of the leading artists had very similar backgrounds and some had even met in their earlier lives, in military schools etc. Lots of very interesting links!
This website has a number of articles on the subject http://www.davesweb. cnchost.com/
I also found some related videos on this web page http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread861138/pg1
Not sure what to make of it all yet and plenty more reading to be done at my end but it is a subject I find interesting so will plough on with it.
Harold
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31 Mar 2014 22:15:17
{Ed002's Note - The one thing I missed from the above was the Hell's Angels who were sort of in the "employ" of the Rolling Stones at Altamont and were responsible for the 60s ending. My old mentor, Gonzo got involved with them way before my time and wrote some truths and untruths about them. There is actually a move of the same name about him that you may want to check out. }
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Are you the lawyer in fear and loathing, Ed002? ;) With a back-story like yours you should get into after dinner speaking, I know I'd be interested in some of your tales! With the company you have kept mind I'd be surprised if you can remember half of them.
That incident at Altamont was stomach churning. I always wondered if there was a higher power instructing the hell's angels to act the way they did, though I wouldn't imagine it would take much encouragement.
Harold
{Ed002's Note - It is likely that the Hell's Angels were encouraged by alcohol - nothing else. The lawyer in F&L remains unaccounted for - probably in Mexico as I last recall.}
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Cheers edd I don't know enough of this subject to make a conclusive opinion, I will check out those movies and maybe in the future come back with my take.
the hells angels involvement in music is strange, I remember one of beatles (think it was george )said while the beatles were over in the states that lharrison hung out with them and said if you ever come to uk to visit them, well they must have thought hairy bikers are not going to fly across the world, well they did and stayed in the abbey road studios for a few weeks until george had to say they had to go.
i find it strange how they have the money to fly over here and bring there bikes, drifting off the subject but I find that very peculiar.
will also check out the music and maybe see them live if they appeal to me but you do realize even if I go to a gig I still have the 500 yard restraining order against you so I hope they tour in a big venue.
{Ed002's Note - The Angels had money from various sources but some came to England in 69 (I think) as part of a deal to bring some of the San Francisco bands to play in London - certainly the Grateful Dead and Quicksilver Messenger Service. In the early period they sat in on Big Brother and The Holding Company shows (Sam will be in the UK this summer) and later got involved with the music of the cross-over bands like Gold. There were gang issues around the BAy area with the Hell's Angels clashing with Satan's Slaves, the Devil's Dandruff or whatever, and to some extent that still happens. You can probably Google it but it was post WW2 disgruntled soldiers who kicked the biker movement off on cheap ex-Army Harleys. Now it is run as big business and perhaps more worthy of investigation from the folks on this page.}
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31 Mar 2014 07:17:51
Pretty ironic that the country I'm currently living in (NZ) has an tourism slogan of 100% pure, yet have just had a referendum where 70% have voted to reintroduce flouride into the nations water supply. The media has jumped on it saying how good it is, as the nations dental bills will drop. Not surprising they fail to mention the increase in liver problems and cancer in children aged 0-2 or the other effects it has on the young human body.
On a side note - does anyone find it strange just how many news websites have popped up recently that tell fake news stories? Especially on websites controlled by Government agencies ie Facebook. Makes me wonder what were currently being conditioned for.
Also just wondering how many countries are still giving updates on the Russia Ukraine situation? I know I haven't heard a peep since this plane went missing. Interested to hear if its the same elsewhere.
Melbourne CFC
31 Mar 2014 12:14:08
There was a small segment on both bbc and itv yesterday regards the Kerry-Lavrov Paris talks. And Russia Today is still running stuff.
Kim Philby
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Disinfo in alternative media is rife now, you have to be very very sure on what to believe, I tend to stick with people who have been posting this type of stuff for the last 15/20 years. I would say 70/80% alternative news is BS.
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That is disheartening Melbourne.
When people fail to understand the consequences of their choices, satire might help free them from their mind trap.
Why should we only consume the waste of coal burning power plants? How about a referendum for introducing mercury or nuclear waste into the water supply?
When people are trapped in dualities, describing both extremes usually helps them come up with a new solution to the problem at hand.
In regards to your second note, I agree with you and Franky.
I think ever since the establishment figured out they lost the majority of their audience to small budget (alternative) media, they've been filling the web with disinformation sites.
Can't remember where I found the article, but there were some interesting statistics on the massive budget increase to governments, for the purpose of web based public relations campaigns.
I trust most of us can deduce what the establishment is referring to, irrelevantly of the used terminology.
As for your closing question, the establishment shines the light of publicity on areas where they think they can shift public opinion to their benefit.
Evidently, after the numerous internal discussion leaks and the Crimean referendum, they no longer consider that a possibility.
They will most likely give it another shot, once they believe they can convincingly paint the Russian government as an enemy of whatever.
zari
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31 Mar 2014 06:09:52
The best religion is right and wrong.
Sometimes we have to do wrong to make things right? Anybody else agree
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30 Mar 2014 13:20:26
What's people thoughts on minecraft? My 2 children are now fairly obsessed with it, playing it and watching videos of it with "stampylonghead" and "iballisticsquid". They are encouraged to be interested in it at school also by their teachers. It seems fairly educational regarding building and environments but I've not had long enough to have a look at it.
For anyone who knows what I'm talking about I would be interested in other peoples/Ed's thoughts regarding it.
Supasub
{Ed002's Note - It means nothing to me but I am sure others have an opinion.}
I attempted to play it once got no where it's quite complex, I'd say it's addictive obviously because millions of kids are playing it & it's no where near to the quality of next gen games or even PS3 or Xbox games. I'd say aslong as your kids are not playing it every free minute they have it's ok it is a very difficult game where pretty much anything is possible there is conspiracy linked themes to it like the slender man & Bigfoot in the game why I'm not sure I don't even know how it works but it will definately be getting there minds working whether it's in the right ways I'm unsure.
Just goes to show that coming up with one of these simple games like Flappy Bird or angry birds can make people very rich without the resources of Sony, Microsoft & all these big game producers these simple apps are competing wish I could come up with one myself lol.
RM8
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Never heard of it m8 sorry
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30 Mar 2014 17:03:55
Me neither but mine are too old now and grandchildren far too young. At least mine are old enough to pay for Sunday dinner.
Kim Philby
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My daughter loves it she sits on youtube for hours watching video mad by these men. they are brainwashing her, everything we say or do is now compared to minecraft.
its sounds like mindcraft.
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My 7 year old boy loves it, and he too watches people playing it on YouTube, personally I think it's rotten, and a bit pointless
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29 Mar 2014 13:36:05
Hi guys I'm not the most clued up on Zionism Judism etc but a man I know spoke to one of my colleagues about the 4 Blood Moons or 4th blood moon coming next month and I think that it has in the past had an effect on humanity someway. Does anyone know anything about this as it seems an interesting subject? I am not clued up on this at all & reading up on it it goes right over my head. He's always wearing a jumper with a badge that says ezequil ministries or something like that with the Israeli flag on he's a fascinating man & he talked of things being prophesised throughout history & the few people who control the population. He also Gave my mate the name of a book to read it was one word it began with an H I can't quite remember the name if anyone or the Eds may know it? Sorry about the whacky layout of the post not quite sure how to put these questions across with the info I was given.
I think I was looking at the wrong site and my mate was giving me dodgy info it looks to me like Over the next 2 years there will be 4 eclipses I think on Israeli feast days. Turning the moon red which gives it the name blood. Hebrew prophesy sees this as a sign of end times & the 2nd coming of Christ. My mate said this guy was definitely worried lol.
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28 Mar 2014 17:59:44
Hello all, big fan of the site, just curious though about the point many have made about "The Families" that control almost everything that goes on in the world, can someone shed some light on this topic for me? Such as names of the families and how the control almost everything? Thanks!
STeve
{Ed033's Note - The below is not what you've exactly asked for but could be a part of the bigger picture.
Here's the way I see it at the moment, There are 2 elite groups. 1 group wants to reduce the population to 500 million human slaves (who spend their time as slaves on the coastlines) and have a small elite class who own everything and live on a pristine Earth where the interior of most countries has been returned to nature (This is Group 1's Agenda 21. The agenda for the 21st century).
The other group may appear to be human but do not think as humans (they maybe clones or possessed by 'Walk-ins' or Archons). This group wants to eradicate humans and turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland with some type of artificial life forms being on Earth. (This is Group 2's Agenda 21. The agenda for the 21st century).
So both groups appear to be acting as 1 group at the moment in the lowering of the population except if you're in Group 1, things like the use of depleted uranium weapons (which they said they would never use as they would turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland), Fukushima, the gulf oil crisis, fracking, some of the geo-engineering stuff that ruins the Earth, doesn't make much sense to you as this goes against Group 1's Agenda 21.
So, it's Group 2's Agenda 21 that's being implemented and everyone in Group 1 will be taken out with everyone else.
A very small part of the evidence is in the NASA war document
Found a good documentary the other day called 'Uroko', available on youtube. It paints a tale of how the elite banking families have over time grown immensely in power through corruption and co-operation with other families, taking control of our economies and most other aspects of our life. The video explains how many of the global events in our recent history have been manipulated by these families in order to push their agenda of global dominance. Worth a watch.
Harold
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My take on this is the money trail and power trail leads to a bloodline ie Rothschild/ monarchies etc but I have a strong feeling they are being told or lead or even as the edd suggested maybe appear human, if you look back in time at evil people it is too black and white, do you think Hitler or Stalin or even George w bush was these sole evil people?the real evil is hidden, that is why I do not think the money trail leads to the most powerful families on earth.
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Frank that's a possibility.
I would say certain families (Rothschild, Rockefeller, Windsor etc) are at the top, or at least the top that we can see, and then you have families underneath like Bush etc that are proxies and do the bidding of the money families.
Mort
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Thanks a lot Ed going to give that a watch right away! Truly scary that these people have not been truly exposed, keep up the good work.
STeve
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28 Mar 2014 18:39:58
Ed do you think has been some kind of power struggle between G1 & G2 and G2 has won?
Are G1 regrouping for round 2?
As for what families are involved I'd have to say; and with varying degrees of involvement, some are the Alpha families and some are just favoured henchmen sort of thing: Rothschild, Rockefeller, Saxe-Coburg-Gotha aka Mountbatten-Windsor, I would say are in the top bracket with Bush, one of the main henchmen families. Then you have people like Gates etc who have risen quite high.
Mort
{Ed033's Note - I don't know what's going to happen next
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28 Mar 2014 14:21:26
The clocks went back an hour on October 27th, 55 days before the winter equinox. Daylight hours were about 9. 50.
The clocks will go forward this Sunday, 98 days after the winter equinox, with daylight hours expected to be about 12. 50.
If the clocks went forward 55 days after the winter equinox, it would have been around February 14th.
Sunrise and sunset times are about the same for the end of October and the end of February.
I remember a few years ago reading a brilliant article by a journalist called Kevin Myers on this very subject. We are just in the habit of leaving it this way, but for no valid reason. Imagine if the clocks went forward at the end of February? I'd say people would be delighted. I can never understand why we wait for an extra month to put the clocks forward. It makes no sense. What do you think?
Ryan.
I can come up with three possible explanations Ryan:
No knowledge of astronomy
Disconnection from nature
No knowledge of myth
It's the same answer to the question of, why do we celebrate the winter solstice, Samhain eve and most other saturnian/luciferian days?
zari
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27 Mar 2014 20:00:11
i am in to old school music 60s and when there was a growing movement of icons like lennon/hendrix speaking out against wars/hunger etc in major festivals and people really thought at the height that they could change the system, then things changed in 1969/70, woodstock was blamed on on many things but 99. 9% were peaceful fans there for the music and the message.
until last night I never knew about the isle of wight festival riots 1970 and the lead singer of the moody blues said after that gig things were never the same, he said there were activist there determined to cause trouble and if it was not for the normal fans things would have been a hell of a lot worse.
so my point is, paid activist cause trouble to stop a movement a cause, like the battle of seattle on WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999 when it was proved by documents that the cia paid or used undercover agents to cause as much trouble as they can, since then they have changed the law and you can not protest within a mile of any conference.
27 Mar 2014 21:18:22
Franky intelligence services have always used agent provocateurs to infiltrate crowds. Its a good giggle, usually training missions and the like, at least back home anyway. But now its all plant a couple of people and see what happens. Obviously the Americans always push things too far.
Ah 60's music, learning to speak English to the Beatles. My favourite was George Harrison.
Kim Philby
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Love looking back at Hendrix et al. Watched a documentary on the era recently and it sure did seem to tail off rather quickly by the end of the 60's considering the epiphany that 1967 was meant to be. By the time he played the star spangled banner that time, it seems the end of those times was already already looming.
Harold
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Battle of seattle
http://putlocker.bz/watch-battle-in-seattle-online-free-putlocker.html
if not its on my twitter account cush42 its well worth watching this movie in fact its in my top ten movies.
ah kim lennon was my favorite as I was growing up but I am like you I thought harrison was very deep and he was a genius in his own right, also he in my view wrote the best beatles song of all time.
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28 Mar 2014 15:38:34
He was the best looking till he got too hippy.
Kim Philby
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Check out the story of laurel canyon hippy scene. Some very famous musicians with questionable connections. Possible that the whole hippy scene was controlled from the beginning. I have always thought the early 90s rave scene was similarly set up not only because the dove is an illuminati symbol but the pioneers of this movement were also well connected individuals.
{Ed002's Note - My then girlfriend and I lived the lost summer of 1974 with Father Yod and the Source Family in Laurel Canyon - and there was much going on and everyone had "questionable connections".
And it was Altamont that ended the 60s Franky - it will be easy to look up.}
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27 Mar 2014 13:32:04
Has anyone noticed the amount of celebrities that have been producing offspring the last couple of years. Ever since the Beijing Olympics which the opening ceremony was based on the ritual of conception to the London Olympics which was a ritual of childbirth and raising children.
Women underground have no menstruation cycle so are they all having children before going underground?
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27 Mar 2014 07:46:02
G'day Eds and my twitter friend Franky.
Had a thought while driving to work this morning.
What has happened to the geniuses that created history throughout the last 500 years or so, Galileo, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Blaise Pascal, John Stuart Mill, Leonardo Da Vinci and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe to name but a few, is the independent genius dead or are they all connected to multi-nationals and goverments?
{Ed001's Note - we are just too busy running this site to create much in the way of history these days......}
Alright jon, the question should be where are the real geniuses?most of those names were promoted or ripped off a other persons idea.
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A good few of them were mental aswell Franky lol.
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30 Mar 2014 00:10:40
It sounds more interesting than parroting the theories of Marx and Lenin.
Kim Philby
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Conditioning makes people regard establishment propaganda as reality.
How would those people then, be able to realize that they are in the presence of a genius?
The majority of them would be dismissive due to their amplified insecurities, while the rest would immediately label the unusual (extraordinary) as lunacy.
To recognize a genius one needs to be a genius.
Otherwise, we are only talking about establishment endorsed authority figures.
Subjectivity aside, technology has evolved to the point that to cross from theory to practice one needs capital backing.
With myth as teacher, advanced intelligence and vast resources are rarely concentrated on the same vessel.
Internal and external wealth are probably mutually exclusive.
zari
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