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05 Jul 2013 08:51Discussion #9449Talk Sense

05 Jul 2013 00:52:49
Hey guys not posted in a while so sorry if I'm rehashing points that have already been made.

Does anyone else think that the whole banking crisis etc was completely engineered by people like the Tories in an attempt to dismantle, once and for all the welfare state and other social programmes?

Also as an after though, find its been interesting watching what's been going on in Egypt at the moment. What are the other poster's opinions on whether it is a good or a bad thing for the Egyptian people having a military that can essentially take control away from a government which the people no longer feel has their best interests at heart.

Peace and love

frankyscouser05 Jul 2013 10:23

First question no political group has the power to engineer the banking crisis like we discussed a few weeks ago its the people/corporations who called in the loans who caused it and that is the most frustrating thing we do not know who they are.
2nd question Egypt, the straight answer is I do not know, normally if the yanks are peed off with a military coo they show there disdain like they are doing, if this takeover was on the lines of Venezuela coo then I would say yes its good for everyone who wants equal rights for the poor but its a bit to early to say if its good or bad for everyone.

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Not Registered05 Jul 2013 16:13

At the end of the day the people in Egypt found out that the Muslim Brotherhood was not good for their country as many people lost civil liberties that they had always had.

The fact is the people have supported the military, it is not up to the military to support the people and allow a new election.

Whilst people may argue that the last election was free and fair etc etc. this may have been the case, but once the party started stripping liberties and agressivley pushing a more islamist agenda the people were not happy. maybe a leaf can be taken from their book and applied here?

TA

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Not Registered05 Jul 2013 16:13

Also franky I don't think it helped that the banks were giving mortgages on a house that was worth say Â£75000 and approving a mortgage of Â£150,000 then when the housing market Collapsed you had people with extremely high mortgages on property that wasn't worth half of what the mortgage was for. there's that much negative equity in properties at the moment it's ridiculous!

RR!

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04 Jul 2013 15:28Discussion #10300Talk Sense

04 Jul 2013 16:00:47
In Falkirk, dishonest means have been used to ensure the selection of a 'suitable' candidate ahead of the next general election?

Puzzled

Not Registered04 Jul 2013 23:20

Months ago, an MP raised questions in the House of Commons regarding a peadophile ring operating out of No. 10 that tied into the investigation of The Elm Guest House case.
Can anyone guess the name of the MP who asked that question? I'll give you a clue, he's just resigned from the shadow cabinet.
Make your own minds up, but, I think there may be more to the picture than just Falkirk.

MrTrotskysGhost

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frankyscouser05 Jul 2013 12:28

more on the elm house case.

http://griffinwatch-nwn.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/cliff-richard-outed-as-paedophile-in.html

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04 Jul 2013 13:27Discussion #10299Talk Sense

04 Jul 2013 14:19:43
Any 1 else see the news last week with the Irish Bankers. illumanati all over it. :)

Not Registered04 Jul 2013 16:39

The link to these Bank PersonsTalking on the phone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBaFhQufjTQ

I was only reading on this site about 1-2 weeks ago about banking and then this comes out.
And what makes it even better THESE people will not be sent to Jail for what they have done
Family's have been torn apart
People have committed suicide losing there job there house an still have to pay it off
I really feel for the people who took
400k (just an example) to buy a house and 2yr down the line, the house is worth 150k

Shanks

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Not Registered04 Jul 2013 23:06

Shanks - the latest news the day!
They wanna know who leaked the tapes & if found they going to get done!
Not a word and parcel about a banker?
no wonder the country is in trouble!
Irish white.

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04 Jul 2013 13:16Discussion #10298Talk Sense

04 Jul 2013 12:43:19
about a week ago ed033 mentioned the possibility of life on mars.

I enjoy reading about astronomy a lot, so if anyone can suggest me some good sites for reading about aliens or astronomy then it would be very helpful.

Thank you

2011 (ynwa)

Not Registered05 Jul 2013 08:51

Don't know a lot about this mate but just google : NASA, Eric von Danniken, Mars Anomolies, the Drake Equation, Carl Sagan and Jaques Vallee.
Unfortunately you will have to check the spelling on all of the above. :-)

MrTrotskysGhost

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Not Registered05 Jul 2013 09:04

^^thanks mate

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04 Jul 2013 07:24Discussion #10297Talk Sense

04 Jul 2013 08:23:16
{Ed033's Note - Video on the behaviour of the Monarchy

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03 Jul 2013 20:34Discussion #10296Talk Sense

03 Jul 2013 21:17:11
Well I think we could do with a cheering up, I know things get frusrating at times but afterall, "the pearl of great price" is so-named with very good reason.

As it happens i've been saving something for a rainy day. I'd like to introduce (to those of you who haven't yet had the pleasure) a book. It is a book equally deserving of a place on this page, as the 'book review' one (if you'll gracefully allow this indulgance, eds), for it is no ordinary book. It is Etidorpha.

So is it fact or fiction? I can't tell you, but I can tell you that Etidorpha is not a book for the Oxford graduate; with rigid mind set in someone else's nonsense - instead it is a book for the seeker; the thinker; the ponderer, a book for minds who know there is much more in this world than meets the eye.

The book is still available to buy, however i've included a couple of links to read online. Keep a tight saddle. pea

archive.org/details/etidorhpaorendof00lloy

etidorhpacontent.blogspot.co.uk/

Not Registered04 Jul 2013 07:52

Great stuff pea cheers for the links pal, got 8 chapters through before bed, was absolutely knackered but for some strange reason the vividness of that book played on my mind for an hour or so. Keeping me up until it got me thinking back to times where I have felt strange company there in my bedroom or at one of my mates house where we witnessed a spatula fly from the draining board in his Kitchen to off the back of his couch in the living room with enough force to make a small incision on the leather (weirdest house I've ever been in. ), about half an hour later I felt a strange phenomena coursing through my body and as I closed my eyes I saw strange signs & random flashing images streaming through my mind at a speed of thought unknown to me, like weird faces masks monuments & fire as bright as the sun while my brain seemed to be pulsating inside my head & I had this weard sensation warming it's way through my spine. I put it down to lack of sleep & to a very small extent paranoia as paranormalities don't normally bother me in the slightest as I have never physically seen a ghost, but the things that were happening I've never felt before in my life truly strange how the brain works as the imagination runs wild. I've been unwell for the past week & had a bit of a traumatic experience a few weeks ago that I lost sleep over so I'm putting it down to that & I do not expect the same thing to happen tonight when I read on thought I'd share that if anyone's had any similar experiences I'd love to hear them.

Rise & Shine

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Not Registered04 Jul 2013 09:27

Only on DMT Rise and Shine, mate ;-)

Melbourne CFC

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Not Registered04 Jul 2013 09:46

Unless there's some of that in lemsip mate I don't think it was that maybe I'm just nuts lol.

Rise & Shine

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NI Gunner04 Jul 2013 18:27

Thanks for that link pea. Haven't read any yet but intend to.

Rise & Shine, this is going to sound strange but I had a similar experience the other day. Let me know if anything like this has happened to you.

The other day I woke up, about 3:30pm, as you do when out of work.

I was certainly awake, no doubts in my head. I checked my phone for the time, sent a text. Felt too tired to get up just yet. Thought, "right another half an hour".

So, closed my eyes, felt this weird tingling in my head, like under the scalp but not the brain. Felt the tips of my fingers heating up, almost like I had them on the side of a boiling kettle. Wasn't sore though. I was definitely still awake, I opened my eyes partially. I could see my room. But there was more. I concentrated harder.

I can only describe what I saw as CCTV footage, from an elevated view I was watching a live stream of cars driving, people crossing a road etc. It was an unknown city, I could even smell the city. An industrial smell. Now I don't live in a city so I know the distinction between the two. I could even feel the atmosphere, the hustle and bustle nature of it.

It was really strange because I could sort of 'tap in'. If I opened my eyes completely wide I was in my room, it wasn't dreamlike or anything. I could even hear my dog barking at the neighbors kids playing football.

But when I rested my head down again I tried to see what I saw, and I could, I had my eyes squinted I could 'feel' it all again. Watching these people from a height, like as though I was a security camera. This went for about 40 mins.

I swear I'm not on drugs of any kind, I don't even take a tablet for a headache. Strangest thing so it was.

My thinking is that is just a chemical imbalance causing me to hallucinate but the thing is I've hallucinated before several times as I'm prone to a fever and it felt nothing like that.

Weird, weird, weird. Anyone else experience any unexplained phenomena they'd like to share?

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Not Registered04 Jul 2013 19:02

Fascinating NIGunner cheers for sharing mate, the way you say it was in under your scalp I said the brain pulsating, but it was exactly like you mentioned it was more like my scalp was pulsating on my skull, and exactly like you said I could tap in unlike you I could not think about what I was seeing because then it was something else so rapidly just the strangest things I tried to link them but it was impossible to train my thought on any of it. When I opened my eyes the room was blurry like a heat wave I just thought it's because of this stripy black, grey & white wallpaper I have on top of how tired I was. Then when I closed my eyes everything would be black & all these light blue coloured images (apart from the blinding bright firey flashes) would course through my mind at an unbelievable rate I just more or less "tuned in and enjoyed the show" if you like to see If my subconscious mind was trying to tell me something lol. It went on for 15mins or so then got up had a drink of water then fell asleep no problem. Have a read at that book it opens up the imagination.

Rise & Shine

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02 Jul 2013 21:01Discussion #10011Talk Sense

02 Jul 2013 20:49:33
Ever since I 'woke up' about four/five years I have been living in total frustration. Nothing is what it should be and I constantly feel as though there is no point going on through the pathetic existence I'm doomed to because the system is so counter-intuitive.

Then in your daily life, which is relatively poor, because you can see all the atrocities, lies and stupidity you can't seem to escape. You have one choice, accept it! I'm just not comfortable with it at all. 90% of people scoff at the thought of our government being in any way crooked, deceitful etc, even when they are presented with facts they are conditioned to deny them.

Then there's the 10%, probably less, who are 'awake' and they are, like me, doomed to live in this black hole we call Earth because there is just not enough strength in numbers to make any positive change.

It seems like the only victories I'll ever see in my life are minuscule, and are they really worth living for?

I'm not a Star Trek fan by any stretch (just can't get into it) but I always loved this - "Live long and prosper"

There is no prosperity on Earth anymore. In terms of the human race, we aren't progressing. Earth is not a haven for life but a breeding ground for greed.

I mean, should I want to visit another part of the planet, I'd have to jump through hoops, pay for a visa etc just to set foot on that patch of land and breath that air. Surely every human should have the right to explore? The Earth and all it has to offer is being turned into a commodity, bit by bit yet everyone just accepts it. People genuinely believe we living in a democracy. Nope! It's a dictatorship! The only choice we have, we get to pick the puppet. The puppet master never changes.

Sorry, going to stop now as it's just too depressing. Does anyone else feel so miserable and frustrated that they'd be tempted to call it a day and hope for better after death? I'm not saying I'm suicidal but does no one else feel like the fight for Earth has been lost long ago and we're never going to see the dawn of a new age?

Not Registered02 Jul 2013 22:20

I know exactly how you feel mate, they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and once you start researching what's going on in the World it does depress you, but in my opinion its better to have a bit of knowledge then live in ignorance. My advice, for what it's worth, is not to think of human kind as a whole but concentrate on your own little universe i.e. your family, friends etc, and just try and stay positive within that small environment. Keep smiling and stay positive mate!

Monty

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Not Registered02 Jul 2013 22:20

Have you read 'The Handmaids Tale'? It reminds me very much of the world as most us on here see it. Staged terrorist attacks, power, control and deceit.

Back to reality, what else can we, as the minority, do other than accept it?

ConspiracyKen

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Not Registered02 Jul 2013 22:45

There's lots like you mate, I include myself. If it was not for the fact I have a wonderful wife and kids I think I might be a lot worse. The apathy shown by the vast majority of the human race is staggering. We have been browbeaten to accept any crap they throw at us. The lies and deceit is endless. Until many millions more change their outlook and start asking questions things will never change.

Sadly the people who control, and that's what it is control, the World know this. Utilities should be owned by the governments and be given free to the population. Transport should be free. This could be done with ease. The money spent on weapons and the whole munitions industry would easily pay for it. This would enable the population to actually have a life and have money to spend. It would cut the carbon emission issue as more people would see they don't actually need a car.

Thatchers greatest trick was putting a noose round the peoples neck by way of mortgages. If a country was run correctly there would be no need to buy a house. Social housing would be of a high standard and be plentiful. How she ever got away with creating this home owning culture is beyond me. Now because of the stupidity of greedy bankers people are living in fear of being homeless. If you have this hanging over your head are you going to cause shout and demand better? No.

This country has far too many politicians, peers and associated wage thieves. We give money, for free, to one of the richest families in the world. They own palaces all over the country while people are sleeping under bridges. We give huge grants to the aristocracy to maintain crumbling stately homes. All this happens while the general populace are fed rubbish in papers and TV.

My kids have came through university and are caring decent people. They have been taught to follow their own paths and think for themselves. that's all we can do. The fact more people vote on x factor than an election is the most depressing thing I have ever read.

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Not Registered03 Jul 2013 00:03

I don't know really what to say about the op! Some stuff in there I really agree with, but the one thing I seen I didn't agree with was the "is it all worthwhile"
Here's how I see it! Each one of us has different s*** going on, every single one of has some type of thing in our own life's that we'd obviously rather not be going through. Yes, it's quite sickening with all the stuff that comes out about our governments, politicians etc. And that there is things going on that makes the human mind shudder in disgust at some of the things we do to each other, but my answer to all that stuff is this!
Just embrace every single moment you can with those you care most about, appreciate being such a complex being that you can mull over the unknown with no certainty just what we are part of. Take in any clear night sky you can, share a joke with your close ones, and hold tightly your closest others. Feel a gentle breeze whisk across your face, listen to the music you like as loud as you can, take in some brilliant literature, share your thoughts and opinions with like minded people and just take every bad bit of news you hear on the chin! I could have kept going on with things to at least make life a bit more enjoyable, but realised how long I've been going on for!
So like you said op, "live long and prosper" no matter how hard it is, and don't waste your short time here worrying about how bad things are!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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Not Registered03 Jul 2013 01:50

I think we have all felt like you gunner and think what's the point? Now I have had the attitude of spreading the word on the same devices that they monitor us on, I make a point of putting links on
twitter and Facebook that should be in our interest, this site is a prime example for spreading the word, we have brothers in Australia. south Africa the middle east, all over the world and it will grow like a virus the more we share, they want us to feel helpless because they know if we stand as one it's game over, so my advice is chin up try to educate not preach to people who you are in contact with and if you have kid's tell them to think for themselves take no notice of the media.

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02 Jul 2013 12:55Discussion #9005Talk Sense

02 Jul 2013 11:44:31
more about the sinister monarchy, just check this out guys and tell me what you think.

native canadian children allegedly left residential schools with monarchy persons and disappeared.

http://tinyurl.com/6cmnq4k

Not Registered03 Jul 2013 14:29

Great link Franky Grim stuff indeed this Child Abduction/ Child sex rings & pedophila goes deeper than the Ocean. This has been passed on & on through millennia and has got to be the sickest cover ups I've ever read about truly disgusting man. I hope that now it's beginning to come out this could be small steps towards a fight back! Did you read on About the Natives 6th sense from there long hair amazing stuff? If we lived pure without the secret poisons shoved down our throats daily I think the human race would be a much stronger more powerful & versatile race mentally & physically.

Rise & Shine

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frankyscouser03 Jul 2013 17:41

Yeah mate weird stuff ancient Indians were always labeled to be in tune with mother earth and the sixth sense, it makes you think was it a premeditated attack in the 1800s to wipe them out and sharing the knowledge, as for the queen/monarchy they have always come across as cold blooded and even though I do believe sacrifices go on that story chills me and I think back to when I was about 10 feet away from the queen and the prince when they came to liverpool for the silver jubilee think it was 1977 not sure, it was dead hot and packed. a lot of the kids were passed over the fencing and sat on the kerb as the royal car went past us all dead slow, to think they are not what they seem is truly shocking.

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Not Registered03 Jul 2013 18:26

03 Jul 2013 19:15:02
I think hair operates as an antenna which works with a kind of natural 'wireless'. I'd say the effect is very subtle, but real. I also think this is why hair was portrayed the way it was in the movie "Avatar". pea

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frankyscouser03 Jul 2013 20:34

Good point pea, might be another reason the Nazis shaved the Jews hair?

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02 Jul 2013 10:18Discussion #11389Talk Sense

02 Jul 2013 11:16:08
I just feel the general public are so far gone here in the Uk & the states I fear for our dumbed down society living in a bubble of falsified reality struggling day in day out to make ends meet it should not be the way & it's time to wake up the masses before it spirals any further from our reach. I really hope all of us on here can make a small start & a difference to our future. We let them make us feel guilty for the state of the world they take our hard earned money for charity & laugh at us as they sit on cash they could never spend. Letting us kill the Earth & eachothwr while they hide every decent invention or shut people down who have good helpful ideas for our future & the future of this planet. It makes me sick to my stomach we let them away with this & the only real options we have would see us either In a cell or worse. I will Keep on fighting the good fight for aslong as I live. Rant over!

frankyscouser03 Jul 2013 09:38

I was with you all the way rise then you spoilt it with the gunners, ha joke mate well said.

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02 Jul 2013 10:15Discussion #9930Talk Sense

02 Jul 2013 10:33:41
To the chap who entertainingly wrote that South Africa was going to collapse and China would colonize, has no idea whatsoever about RSA. The Chinese will find a huge problem on their hands. With a group of people who have been groomed to rebel and fight against a system! And who take pride in fighting against oppression, my friend we're used to this kind of thing and thrive in it! Have you heard of the Zulu war or the Boer war. Weve been colonized before and fought hard to free ourselves, were not going to give it up easily that's for sure, well i'm not! and on a side note I have no problem cohabiting with any culture any people anywhere as long as it's not forceful, ITS ALL OF OUR PLANET! understand that!

Not Registered02 Jul 2013 12:55

South Africa wouldn't stand a chance against China.

but it won't come to that.

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Not Registered03 Jul 2013 14:29

South Africa would be easy pickings for China.

However it may not be south Africa that China is interested in?

There are many other Counties in Africa that would offer much less
resistence.

{Ed033's Note - resistance is futile

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02 Jul 2013 10:15Discussion #10295Talk Sense

02 Jul 2013 10:29:43
What's people thoughts on the Anonymous Hackers? They've been around a while now and get every little exposure here I see they hacked CNN & Fox News? I'd love them to do that here with the BBC & Itv just to get there message across. They seem an all talk no action group but without the 99% on there side they can never wage war on the powers that be for the good of ourselves our sons & daughters there kids & so on for a free peaceful world where common sense, fairness & equality prevails over Greed, power & Corruption.

Rise & Shine

{Ed033's Note - There is a rumor that Anonymous are backed by rich elitist types anyway and if that's true, they won't be of any use to us people.

Not Registered02 Jul 2013 12:55

That does not surprise me Ed. If they are run by elitist then why crap on your own doorstep if you know what I mean? Or is it just spreading of false information, rubbing our noses in it or trying to work up enough unrest to impose martial law or worse? The way the country is I think the people like us will always stand alone while everyone else is more interested in what Justin Bieber & Beyonce are up to not what Oppression our Governments force on us daily.

Rise & Shine

{Ed033's Note - There's agendas at play that we don't know about. It appears now that immediately after a false flag happens, possibly the same government agency that carried out the attack then puts out a number of poor videos on youtube saying it was a false flag. This actually attacks the conspiracy researchers as these poor videos put people off thinking it's a false flag.

Governments attack themselves and each other using mercenaries to take the blame away from the attacking government.

If you fun anonymous, you can attack another entity (government or media) and it appears to be just a random attack by some computer geeks

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02 Jul 2013 09:17Discussion #10294Talk Sense

02 Jul 2013 10:17:02
The Scotland possibly leaving the UK post that was submitted on this site was placed on our political site (see top of page)

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