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Discussion #1528Talk Sense

04 Oct 2012 16:26:07
Many child abductions and murders are commited at certain times, on certain dates (because thats the way the evil ones sick minds work). Mainly on the nearest full moon to their occult feast days.

April was taken during a Full Harvest moon which was closest to the Autumn Equinox on 21st September.

The same sick individuals who believe in bridge symbolism, also worship moons, stars, numbers, oak trees, mistletoe, pyramids etc.etc.

" Wherever God erects a house of prayer,
the devil always builds a temple there.
And 'twil be found upon investigation,
the latter has the largest congregation"
( Daniel Defoe )

I pray to Jesus Christ for April's safe return.

 

Personally i think she's already dead, why else would the plod tell the locals to pack up and call in specialist teams to drag rivers?
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It's nothing to do with the moon!! A sick pervert seen an opportunity and took it simple as. The shocking thing is a 5 year old girl was allowed out at that time so far away from her home. The parents must realise they have a small part in this horrible crime! The same goes for the parents of Madeleine McCann. It's a sick world that we live in and to allow a child of both there ages to be alone is criminal.

WA
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My children are 6 & 8 and I live in a very nice area. To this day I've not let tem to the nearest park themselves to play and I won't for a little while yet.
I agree I believe she is already gone, once found guilty I believe in certain circumstances there should be 2nd trials to decide if someone is then given the death penalty.
It would erase the problem of people being found not guilty due to a jury not wanting to end someone's life during the first trial. Just my opinion....on very serious crimes committed, or ultimately once found guilt just hand them over to the parents!

Supasub
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Very sad that April hasn't been found yet, we can only hope she's found safe!

Can I just say, there's no point praying to any god, deep down we all know there is no such thing. Let's just have faith in the police and experts to find her. Anyway, if there is a god, why would anyone think he'll help this time? The reason he never helps or step in is because he isn't there!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow {Ed001's Note - I would just like to ask where he was initially when it happened? Or does this great god of theirs only bother to help when asked?}
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Jay, why turn this into a religious debate?

Adam
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Discussion #1527Talk Sense

03 Oct 2012 19:42:55
Anyone noticed how "bridges" have been very prominent of late, and mainly during tragedy's.

Poor little April Jones (please God she's found safe and well)....man arrested near Dyfi Bridge!
Police searching stretch of river between Cenmaes Bridge and Dyfi Bridge!
Man arrested named as Mark Bridger!

Elderly couple in Dorset killed in tunnel collapse, on their way home after dining at Bridge House Hotel!

Director Tony Scott allegedly commits suicide by jumping off Bridge!

American comedian and impersonator Steve Bridges dies of unknown causes age 48.!

Unexplained suicide of young people in Bridgend!


Co-incidence? Or something more sinister? {Ed001's Note - perhaps it is related to all the locks being cut off the 'love bridge' in Italy??}

 

Or maybe its just easier to throw things off bridges? and usually underthem is something thats going to kill you, rivers, rail lines etc.
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Wow u are right....I mean I was in the bridge end pub before going to see Kevin bridges! Best conspiracy yet!

GSGB
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Now we've been given a car registration number, which is supposed to belong to Mark BRIDGER !

L 503 MEP (MEP...unlock the code)

L=50 = 50503

50503 is vodaphone network number for
Australia.

Australia? Bridge?
Sydney Harbour Bridge?
False Flag?
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Antahkarana ........Occult bridge building, between the material world and the spirit world!

Something very evil and dark going on here!
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Bridge Symbolism is used a lot in the Occult!
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Discussion #1526Talk Sense

03 Oct 2012 19:25:06
Franky, regards Bobby Kennedy the tragedy is, and bear in mind this is off what i've read and seen, and some of it may be skewed by the Kenendy family anyway to protect the legacy, but:

Most things i've ever seen is that Bobby wasn't really interested in the politics side of things like Jack and their dad Joe. He would have preferred to practice law and raise kids with Ethel.

Joe Kennedy got him to run Jack's 1952 senate campaign which he won, under a deal which would let Bobby go back to the law. Joe however got him onto a couple of senate committes as a legal advisor. He further served on adlai stevenson unsuccessful Presidential campaign in 1956 but this was just prep work to learn how to run a campaign for Jack in the future.

1960 saw Bobby run a very good campaign, although questions of mob influence and what Joe got upto with Sinatra as a go between the Kennedy's and the mob are mostly in the public.

Jack appointed Bobby as attorney general and he went after the mob. Largely why the mob were involved in the assassination of Jack, along with Cuba.

9 months after Dallas Bobby ran for the Senate for New York, and in '68 after LBJ announced he would not seek re-election it boosted Bobby's own candidancy.

I feel that Bobby only entered the Senate in order to stand for the Presidency in opposition to Johnson, and he only planned on that in order to carry on Jack's work, to continue the legacy. If he'd never gone near the Presidency he wouldn't have been seen as threat and assassinated. To me thats the tragedy, Bobby was never really into the politics preferring the law but was corrupted by Joe Kennedy and a sense of duty to Jack and wouldn't have ran if not for what happened to Jack. Really wasteful in the sense that it only happened because of events in Dallas.

Others may know more or have different opinions.

Mort

 

Also does anyone buy the lone gunman stuff for Bobby's assassination?

I always thought it was a bit dodgy, Sirhan saying it was for RFK's support for Israel during the 6 day war a year earlier.

I mean he was Senator for New York, city with the i think the largest Jewish population in America, 100's of voters and a heck of a lot of campaign cash for a Presidential campaign, so he was always going to suck upto the pro-Israel lobby.

And to wait a whole year before making a try? And its complete random chance that he happened to be in not only the exact same building, but also right where RFK was walking through? Sorry to me that means advance knowledge. Unless i'm misisng something. Also the FBI bodyguard advised him not to go through the kitchen as well.

Mort
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Hey mort good topic,my take on bobby Kennedy being a bigger tragedy than jfk is debatable,my take on bobby Kennedy is he piss+d off a lot of people that was part of jfks assassination,and maybe the sense of guilt made him try to get elected ,a few things i have read about bobby k was out of the two brothers he was the hothead while jfk was more subtle and he was signing hes own death warrant going for presidency,as for the Kennedys as a family i agree jfk was hoping to change the world for the better but even hes farther was no angel and not to be trusted.
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Franky I think Jack made plenty of enemies what with Cuba/ Vietnam and thats the main reason for killing him. It was easier for the cia to use their mafia contacts to do most of the dirty work as it wouldn't come back to cia it would sit on the mob instead. And more people would believe it was the mafia than anyone else. Look at the Oliver Stone film when kevin Costner's Jim Garrison has a row with one of his deputies over it when he says it was the govt and the bloke can't accept it and insists they look to the mob connection instead. I know the mafia stood to gain out of JFK's death but they are almost as big a patsy as Oswald, as in reality they gained zip.

Regards Bobby, i don't think it was a sens eof guilt, more a sense of duty. Bobby was always described as the more loyal of all the family, he was the one that was always there for Jack. He is descrbied as hotheaded, but he is also described as very organised and generous. I think Bobby was a more complicated individual than Jack.

I agree he signed his own death warrent in standing in '68. But the point i was making, and why his was the bigger tragedy is that he didn't need to. It was so unecessary, but acting out of a sense of loyalty and duty to his dead brother, it got him killed as well, very possibly by the same people. That to me is more tragic, if not for the events of Dallas, he wouldn't have ever gone for president. The plotters in Dallas effectively killed both brothers that day.

Mort
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The whole Kennedy saga is a genuine conspiracy which we will never find out why and who killed them both,but i am not buying in to they were the saviors of the world, agreed he was the best out the lot of them but to me all politicians are corrupt ,joe kennedy proves the point and he was a overpowering farther who told hes son to go in to politics ,my point is jfk and bk were shocking and a coverup it does not mean they were any more corrupt than any other politician ,i think our judgement is clouded by people dying before there time.
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Was he anywhere near a bridge when he was shot?
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Discussion #1525Talk Sense

03 Oct 2012 15:01:26
franky will have a look at that. I think that bobby kennedy is the bigger tragedy out of the two. Mort

 

In what way mort?
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Discussion #1524Talk Sense

02 Oct 2012 21:55:25
check out on YouTube a interview with Gordon novel on project Camelot ,, he is affiliated with the cia, he talks about jfk and bobby Kennedy assassinations mort was talking about,he also talks about waco/Saddam Hussein and 9/11 and much more, worth a watch.
frankyscouse

 

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Discussion #1523Talk Sense

02 Oct 2012 18:46:25
i'll reedit it at the weekend ed just put the pertinent bits. I got too into it as well. Lot of stuff i hadn't seen before {Ed001's Note - the main thing is that it needs to be in your own words really.}

 

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Discussion #1522Talk Sense

02 Oct 2012 17:54:16
sorry ed didn't think of copyright. Wasn't bad intentions just too much information to share. Do check the website out. Mort {Ed001's Note - no worries mate, we just can't have big long stretches of other people's work like that. I never thought myself when I posted it up, I was so interested in reading it, I just wasn't thinking, or I would have edited it somehow to make it usable.}

 

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Discussion #1521Talk Sense

02 Oct 2012 07:45:28
what happened to Mort's big post? {Ed001's Note - copyright issues mate, because it was copied and pasted from another website.}

 

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Discussion #1520Talk Sense

01 Oct 2012 23:22:42
to the nameless chap you mean charles harelson one of the three "tramps" arrested by dallas pd after the shooting. Honestly i don't know much on the tramps. Ed yes not sure how anyone can buy it, even garrison's investigation, which was flawed, proves beyond any doubt it was what it was. Yep prescott bush had a lot of influence, think he popped up a few times in that massive post. Mort

 

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Discussion #1519Talk Sense

01 Oct 2012 22:03:36
thanks ed1 i know a few others are into the kennedy stuff and as i've been doing a fair bit of reading thought i'd stick some of it down. Kinda snowballed a bit. But thats the fascination. There is so much stuff. The bush family are really worth a look into. The stuff i put down earlier, well its not entirely proven but if even half that is true then they are a shady bunch. To me kennedy is the mother of all conspiracies. Its proof they happen at the highest levels. Look at the involvement all to kill one man. Its staggering yet some people still believe the lone nut theory. There's more chance of elvis winning the national on shergar than finding out the truth but it opens a whole can of worms. If they can do that to their own president then what else can they do? And when you look up some of the names and see them appearing in cuba, chile, all through latin america, watergate and on through the presidencies of reagon and both bushes you realise something is fundamentally wrong. It wasn't just america who suffered that day in dallas, the world would be such a different place today. Mort {Ed001's Note - the Bush family are amongst the big shakers and movers in recent times, that is for sure. Not a lot happens that they haven't had a hand in. As for the lone gunman rubbish, it just shows the level of idiocy of the average person. That they would swallow such blatant lies, of a level of almost complete impossibility, without question, is scary.}

 

The Bush's own the largest fresh water spring in the world, located in costa rica i believe. Water will be power at some point in the near future.
Andrew
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Discussion #1518Talk Sense

01 Oct 2012 11:10:15
Does anyone have a theory on the stone circles at Gobekli Tepe and why they haven't had nearly as much media coverage as other significant archaeological sites? I reckon it's down to them not fitting into the conventional history theory we're fed in the mainstream educational sector, personally.
Khakipillowslip {Ed001's Note - is it in an area that wants/needs tourism? That is the usual driver for coverage in the media, to be honest.}

 

It's in Turkey, who, frankly, could do with the $$.
It's supposedly 12000 years old, much older than Stonehenge, with much more skilled stonemasonry than Stonehenge too.
I'd not heard of it until earlier his year, & I'm usually interested in archaeology.
Khakipillowslip {Ed001's Note - the dates are just guesses, to be fair, they say Stonehenge is X amount of years old, but they know about as much as I do when it comes to that. Just like the Sphinx etc, it is just all guesswork, even carbon dating has been shown to be massively flawed and they had to revise the datings done by it recently. You are right though, Turkey has been trying to push for tourists lately, it might be the area it is in, a lot of Turkey is not safe for tourists and they wouldn't want lots of deaths putting a stop to all tourism. They certainly wouldn't want tourists seeing how they mistreat the Kurds, that would cause no end of trouble if people picked up on that and started campaigns etc.}
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Discussion #1517Talk Sense

30 Sep 2012 10:57:00
I saw someone on here the other day asking about dylatov pass incident. Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this were?

Dyatlov Pass incident

 

Very very strange
LP
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Spooky as that, wow!
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