Flat Earth

02 Mar 2020 00:26:56
Rian, it is truly amazing that you can somehow, find imaginary holes in the 19 words that I typed, yet you are unable to find (or elect to ignore) the monumental holes with in some of the discussions on here? More specifically, flat Earth and the faked Moon landing.

Additionally, where did I say anything about \"taking note of the curvature\" in any of the 19 words that I typed? I said it didn\'t look any different to the passanger windows, in reference to a post claiming the passanger windows are fish eyed. Which it doesn\'t and they aren\'t. Just a bigger field of view.

As for your comment about the instruments and not being interested in them. I was interested and I asked many questions, but I also spent a good while looking out of the window too, as I was fascinated by how different everything looked from 5 miles up.

01 Mar 2020 19:34:59
What a kid you must have been. Not to be overawed by seeing all the instruments and controls and meeting the pilots. You looked out the window and thought yeah there’s definitely some curvature there. Must remember that when I’m an adult and someone starts talking about flat earth. Case closed.

28 Feb 2020 07:20:12
Standard. I can only speak for myself but it\'s not a case of believing that the Earth is flat. (And I don\'t believe anyone on this site has said space doesn\'t \'exist\'. It just doesn\'t in the form of mainstream perception. )

It is more a case of NASA faking space and the fact there is no photos of the Earth that haven\'t been run through the \'Blue Marble\' framework (basically photoshopping) where they layer 2d images across a globe model.

NASA even sent a \'satellite\' into \'space\' just to take photos of the Earth. Yet on closer examination, they are still using the \'Blue Marble\' 3d model to run the images through. Now why is that? Why not just take a picture and show us the raw image. Why are they altering the image? for what purpose?

NASA also faked the Moon missions. If you care to take the time on these pages you will find the NASA footage they didn\'t want you to see.

The question of the flat Earth becomes a possibility because of these things.

Then to add weight you have the Antarctic Treaty. You can not go beyond 60 degrees south latitude without permission from higher powers. And then It would be impossible to explore because of the limitations.

The say it is \'pure\' down there. But I have seen uninhabited island/ lands strewn with crap from the western world. How does this not get to Antarctica? . I assume all climatic airflow also circumvent this part of our world, as there is no pollution down there?

Basically things just don\'t add up. I have just posted a video on the \'dogma\' of science as we know it. How they make us believe things are fact when it true reality they are no better than unproven theories with no one bit of proof to back it up.

Gravity is something that is also brought up with the flat Earth model. But gravity has a serious flaw. And to cover up this flaw mainstream science has created \'dark matter\' and \'dark energy\' to patch the glaring holes in this flaw. That\'s 96% of our supposed Universe. So they have a theory that is 96% incorrect.

Things like this go unnoticed when people just believe what they are told. If you want a serious career in the sciences, you dare not question the dogmatic truth.

I could go on, but I feel my words fall on deaf ears.

27 Feb 2020 12:13:12
Soz SM just see message

I\'ve been looking into flat earth theory for years but never gone full in till late.

26 Feb 2020 23:02:50
Respect Ed33 And southern monkey.
Persistence is what is needed. I have been looking at space for years and love lol Listening to cox and so on .

Since five or six years ago came across flat earth. And that is when I went down the hole so much. people need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Nasa is fake.
Mainstream Education is lies.

26 Feb 2020 19:42:26
Just to add to this thread.

The \'experts\' tell us space in Sunlight is 250C and in darkness is -140C to -170C.

If you had a standard kitchen oven big enough to fit a car in and set to max temp, circa 250C, what do think would happen? .

If you had a freezer that could hit -140C or below and put a car in it, what do you think would happen.

If you put a car in a box that went from -140C to 250C in an instant, what do you think would happen?

Now think of the fakery of Tesla\'s \'Starman\'. Earth glitches at 3:20 and 3m36 onward you see the flat earth satellite projection spread across the 3D globe model.

and you have to love a bit of Bowie (RIP)

23 Feb 2020 21:04:47
Hi Southampton I was putting forward an alternative reality and if one is valid then all must be until proven otherwise, I like my theory of infinite flat discs each belonging to a different time and if you think about it, it would meet with your flat earth theory but also proffers an opportunity to move through time and would make ghosts and people seeing Victorian streets Scenes in Liverpool Bold Street.
Also if you haven’t read the Long Earth by terry pratchett I would recommend giving it a go
Big C.

23 Feb 2020 15:16:59
Big c
Lol what a load of waffle.
At least put an a fake terror attack in there.
And what did u stick your pages together with! ?

Sorry u get so wound up by the flat earth conspiracy dude.
But when u actually look at the evidence that can not be messed with.
That this place ain\'t muffin shaped but, a perfect ball u see in images
That ain\'t cgi.
There not much left
Anyway people can speak or question what they like without someone jumping in with stick tabs .
Take it easy.

22 Feb 2020 19:54:08
Of course the world is round! I thought you guys were joking. No offence intended, its up to you. But weathermen and women show us satellite pictures all day every day. It\'s how we knew about storm Dennis. They don\'t always get it right, but they\'re not bad. The strength of telescopes is a mathematical science, you can literally pay to go and see for yourself, things that are hundreds of thousands of miles away.

Nothing will sway me from the knowledge that the earth is spherical. Because something is written on the Internet, doesn\'t make it true.
Virgin are already readying space tourism.

And what is proffesor Brian Cox and Sir Patrick Moore about? Are they agents of darkness spreading lies about the nature of reality? Or are they highly educated men, who have studied for years and years. What possible reason would there be for such an in depth conspiracy.

And I refuse to believe coxy is a liar. His enthusiasm is infectious and many people watch him just for that reason.

Go on Google earth. Keep heading east or west, doesn\'t matter, you will end up in the same spot.

Sometimes you can focus so strongly on a small part of the jigsaw that you miss the big picture.

Religion, or Christianity at any rate, once ruled the Western world. Its answers to the mystery of life was so appealing that people still believe it in the 21st century. But it was toppled by the world being round.

It proved that heaven and hell were not physically possible. There are so many sites where you can zoom out from you current position and see the earth as round.

If we can see stars that are millions of miles away, billions. Then how is it that we can\'t see the sun when it\'s a few thousand miles away.

I know you guys don\'t care, and I\'m sure you have discovered the odd conspiracy out there. But anyone who thinks the world is flat is literally mental. I\'m really sorry to say it. This stuff is interesting.

And why are there thousands of images of the spherical earth and none of this flat existence. You know there\'s no up and down in space? That\'s a product of gravity.

Sometimes it feels like this is the main problem flat earthers have. An inability to think in the abstract. As if this is the centre of the universe (it is if you believe in infinity)

22 Feb 2020 15:53:05
Hi. I also do not believe in the flat earth idea. Peoples beliefs are their own choice but I think it is disingenuous to claim proofs that are in fact nothing of the sort. A few points. None of those quoted suggested we could not leave low earth orbit. In fact Trump has announced NASA returning to the moon and plans for Mars. Obama was behind deep space unmanned missions. No one has returned to the moon on a manned mission due to cost and because we have been there and have no reason to return. The inverse square of light explains how and why we do see stars, not that it is impossible to do so. Our eyes only need to pick up 1 proton for the light to be visible. We can only see 9000 of the 300 billion stars in the Milky Way with our naked eye and the inverse law is the explanation for this. If the earth is flat then how can I see the sun rise and set over the ocean, moving in and out of view? And if the earth was flat and I looked out at empty ocean from the west coast of a USA or south coast of Australia then surely I would see the Antarctic Ice walls apparently surrounding us?

18 Feb 2020 22:47:20
Southampton wasn\'t wrong in what he said, Ed.

I am saying that a \'globe Earth\' will NEVER be \'flat\' in a fisheye lens. If I am correct, it will be a wave.

I need to check this for myself.

A \'Flat Earth\' would appear \'FLAT\' in the middle of a fisheye lens.

18 Feb 2020 17:25:38
Space is like religious beliefs.
They give u cgi and a story,
U just have to put your faith in them that its true or there.

Flat earth theory is one of them that opens your eyes.
Or makes you at least question what u thought u knew.

18 Feb 2020 17:12:33
Always found flat earth to be interesting topic.
Just opens your eyes to quite a lot that you would just not normally question,
Because what we have been taught as a fact
Not as best theory .
Used to be Southampton 87.

05 Feb 2020 14:59:40
Well the whole subject of the enormous secrecy around Antarctica is something I have been trying to find more about the last couple of years. It is so hard to find anything of substance. This guy at least confirms my suspicion that it is nothing to do with environmental concerns. I remember a couple of years ago you posted something about some very high profile people visiting a particular spot in Antarctica.

I\'m also interested in the pyramids down there, and of course I expect you are interested from a flat earth perspective. There is definitely something being kept from us imo.

04 Feb 2020 09:54:28
You\'ll never win people over going straight into the flat earth conversation. Even if they\'re nice to your face they are not going to believe you. Better start with something like the gulf of Tonkin or WMD\'s in Iraq, because everyone knows now we were lied to about them. Then you can broaden the conversation a little over time. FE is too big a leap even for people who are naturally sceptical imo.

I do think something is happening in Antarctica and is being kept from us. Just what it is, I don\'t know. If anyone has any links I\'d love to check them out.

03 Feb 2020 20:58:57
Thanks for the insightful reply, Rian. It would appear we at a similar place when in comes to opinions of the discussions on this page.

Antarctica is an interesting subject. I have look into Admiral Byrd\'s expeditions and its difficult to work out what exactly he means. He makes some crazy statements about the North Pole too. The \'Lost Diaries\' would be an interesting read if they existed and were found.

I was having a debate on flat Earth with someone on NYE and they facetimed a friend who happened to be working in Antarctica. Don\'t know what the chances of that happening were?

I was really pissed off that I was introduced with a mocking tone, as a flat Earther (because apparently even if you ask questions you are a flat earther and should be shamed for doing so haha) .

It was a short conversation, but he said the fact that he was near the South Pole, proved the Earth was flat? . Still not quite sure how exactly. I just laughed, told him to steal the biggest vehicle he could find, preferably a plane, and head South and stream it too me live. We\'d no one way or another.

03 Feb 2020 20:07:00
You’re right I’m not shocked by anything, and I am firm in my beliefs but not so firm that I’m unable to change my point of view. I’ve changed my mind on a lot of things over the years.

I’ve never really thought much about flat earth before now, but observing the conversation you’ve been having with Ed033 has been really interesting, and certainly provides much food for thought.

I can’t really say if the earth is a globe or flat, but I’m open to the idea that either is possible. I’ve certainly got an interest in the subject now thanks to you both, and I will explore both sides of the argument as much as possible over time. I won’t make my mind up quickly. I try to remain open despite the noise all around. I have been trying to read up on the antarctic for a couple of years now, and I think there is something huge going on there that is being kept from us.

I think almost everything we’re told in society is manufactured propaganda. I stopped listening to the mm many years ago. I don’t really believe anything I’m told. I do think we are all programmed from day one, and mentally unshackling yourself from the pack is challenging.

My interest in alternative explanations started in childhood. Even when I was very young I never really believed LHO killed JFK. I still shudder at the thought that a lot of people still think he did it.

I never believed in the moon landings. Along with JFK and 9/11 this is a subject I have studied exhaustively. All three demonstrate the power of the mm, and how you can deceive people on a global scale quite easily.

So yes, if we are all living in the Truman Show, it really wouldn’t shock me.

Like you SM, I am simply looking for the truth. I just wish more people would start asking questions.

And hsf, you’re a little bit like my wife. She is afraid to believe because once she accepts that something big like 9/11 or the moon landings are a lie, she realises that she would have to re-evaluate absolutely everything.

And that is completely mind blowing and quite frightening for someone to contemplate. But you wouldn’t be sniffing around this site if it wasn’t for the fact that you’re beginning to have doubts yourself. You would have been long gone by now.