History just repeats itself, if people knew the full extent of why wars and conficts are set up mostly ,they would be shocked as nearly every power in history is guitly of this, not counting the nutjobs that kill there own people to get power in smaller countries , if only we could just share food as no one should go hungrey and live in peace , sounds simple but power and greed is what world leaders love..........lfc
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Wow, what a nice post to wake up to....not.
DBTS, what you are forgetting is this is not a current/previous affairs page, this is not a 'historical events that show you who your government really is' page - it is a CONSPIRACY THEORY page.
Why are you even here if all you are going to do is crap on everyone who have a different opinion to yourself? I have lived in Liverpool for a long time and I have to say a Scouser is 'always right', and even if you aren't one, you sound like one. The fact that some conspiracy theories clearly highlight the Chavez incident as being of deeply suspicious nature is lost on you. The difference is that some people are on here looking at these events and asking the question 'why?' not 'how could they?' If you think every bit of fighting that breaks out in the middle east, be it Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, wherever, is a separate, completely unrelated event to the next, and that Chavez was, maybe you should do some reading mate. I am not saying you are wrong, but you are utterly convinced you're right without knowing any more than anyone else, and without knowing what we know either.
What some people believe IS that they're linked. How can you be so sure that the countless atrocities carried out by the west are not part of some conspiracy? How do you KNOW that? You don't mate. SO why leave such a ridiculously hostile post? Why are you even here? Do you go to a gay bar and call everyone fags? Probably not, so why go on a conspiracy site and call everyone loons and tell them they read crap.
How do you know some people on here if not all haven't read all about Marx? Or the Chavez saga? I for one have. I have told you that before.
What astounds me is that the concept of the Illuminati, in modern terms, is a very Western-led thing - yes they are all over the world, apparently, but USA is the supposed 'greatest super-power', and that is where, it is assumed, the Illuminati pull most of their strings. You talk about Western atrocities- yet is doesn't occur to you that you are proving a point, that it actually COULD be something greater than a simple government act that is 'atrocious'. Don't you ever sit there and wonder why the government carries out these atrocities? Have you never heard of a False Flag operation?
A lot of this depends on scale. These theories require the action of an organisation that operates at a scale and depth that is so vast it is very difficult to imagine. But things have been happening on unimaginable scales since the dawn of man, these thigns only seem unimaginable to the modern man who thinks if it can't be done in 2 seconds and with the flick of a switch, it's probably not possible.
What you also fail to consider is exactly how capitalism is the Catalyst, should Illuminati exist. It makes perfect sense. Everything you have told people to consider and go read about actually point towards there being some bigger picture that the common man simply does not feel or notice in their day-today life.
In a nutshell, you strike me as not only hostile in your opinion, but utterly convinced of your own intelligence. If you know so much mate, why are you on here, and why are you not doing something more worthwhile with your life like changing the world?
George Bush was a puppet, and a bad one at that. FACT. Do you never ask - whose puppet? Moon landing stuff was held secret, not released to the public, and deep suspicion still shrouds that hole saga - FACT. I suppose you read all the reason why and thought 'naah, they aren't lying to us'.
I really dislike it when someone who thinks they know everything about everything comes along and runs their mouth, puts people down with stupid gimmick comments like 'buy Bargain books for dummies' etc etc, and then totally contradicts themselves with almost every point they make.
Answer this question, if you will, seeing as you already know the answer it seems:
Why is there poverty and starvation in less-developed, famine-ridden countries?
Answer this too please : why did Neil Armstrong refuse to speak in any depth in public about his trip to the moon?
Also: do you feel that if there was no hint of threat to the US government, it would have an excuse to finance it's military?
Do you not find it a very strange coincidence that Sept 11th keeps cropping up in dates of historical disasters?
Come on mate, if you genuinely believe that there is nothing suspicious going on all across our world then that is worrying. You'll sit here saying capitalism is doing this and that, but you won't question why.
Raz
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