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Sort of what frankyscouse says.

But i'd put Hitler, Stalin and Mao out in front on their own then have the rest behind them, Pol Pot, Saddam, Gaddafi, Khomeini, the Kim's, Bush, Pinochet so on so on, anyone i missed?

I kind of agree with both point of views,i see bush as bad as hitler ,stalin, hussein etc etc the only difference he wears a suit ,but bush is not the main player , he is getting told what to do,which is just as bad.
frankyscouse

But there's no proof that Bin laden was CIA, no 100% irrrefutable evidence that he was a member of the CIA like you are claiming. Yes he met with CIA people and they handed over weapons and training back in the 80's but thats not the same thing.

And Michael Moore is one of the most unrealiable people around too busy twisting facts to suit his own biased agenda.

Saddam gassed between 3000 and 5000 innocent people at Halubja, not to ention the tens of thousands that disappeared of the streets to torture and execution and you think he was painted in a bad light?

Hitler was a total loony tune who fought a war so he could commit genocide. 12 million victims just in the camps never mind the millions killed on the battlefields and so on, But he was painted in a bad light? Poor choice of words.

And yes i care that Saddam and Gaddaffi murdered thousands of people and so do many others.

As mnay others have stated Bush was a puppet, its the people behind Bush that are the ones responsible. And you seem to be giving Bush a lot of credit for the current state of the world. I'm sure that it took more than one man to achieve this mess. Obama is just as bad as Bush. Blair should share a lot of the blame, almost as much as Bush. And Brown was the one that crippled this countries economy whilst Blair was showboating on the world stage. Not to mention the blame that must go to Brussels for one of the greatest follies in history in the Euro, which is now coming home to roost and Brown would have had us in years ago but for Blair!

Put it this way America gave Osama Bin Laden guns years ago because he was fighting people in his own country, and when Osama released a terrorist video the America government flew all of Bin ladens family out of America. All leaders are guilty of Warmongering in one way or another we just hear what the government wants us to hear

MJ

We all know that The Project For The New American Century were behind anything bush done!
Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Pearle, there might be another, but those are the main 4. Pure evil!

Peace

Jay

Eden exists in Iraq. But I agree the bible totally f***ed up the proper story of creation at Eden to suit their own agenda.

Peace

Jay

Cheers MJ. Mort.

They got what they deserved, all im saying is that we didnt have to get involved andpaint them in a much worse light. Do you really think us and america care that Gaddafi and saddam have murdered people? No, all we are interested in is their oil which is why we encouraged the death of Gaddafi and Saddam because with them as leaders theres no chance in hell we can get our hands on oil.

Bush is a FOOL, he has done so much damage its unreal. bankrupt his own ecomony, brought the worlds economy down to its knees, created wars all around the world, killed many many people, recession, pentions lost.....i can go on and on.

All the UK&UStalk about is terrorism on television and they tell you to listen but they never tell you they're mission, they funded Al-Queda, and now they blame the muslim religion, even though Bin Ladin was a CIA tactition they gave him billions of dollars and they funded his purpose farenhiet 9/11, that's just scratchin the surface'' - IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE

Azza {Ed001's Note - surely it should be remembered that they did deserve what they got? Whereas you are trying to make out they aren't as bad as they are made out to be.}

Possibly, it depends on our standing of how it works. Accorsing to Einstein it wasn't really possible, but the work being done at CERN shows that it may be possible, but i doubt we'll make a breakthrough this century.

{Ed033's Note - I think there is something wrong with Andrew D. Basiago myself but what the black ops programs technology is allegedly a century or more beyond what we have so they may have time travel and even teleportation for I know. Project Camelot interview with David Wilcock on black technology teleportation with Jump Rooms to Mars - www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE

Agree there have been lots of races (cleansed ) ,but i could include the disappearence of lots of races even the loss of millions of irish from the famine and millions of african nations , Im just puttin in the big hitters ed . cherrs .

This is good all about the bush family/nazi links

www.robertreckmeyer.com/dark-forces-bush-family-conspiracy.html

Time travel is already possible all be it in a very slight way , time dilation is really time travel , when an astronaut arrives back on earth after been on the international space station he is a millionth of a secound younger than he was .check this link although its hard to get ur head around if you studied physics and have a good grasp on things youl pick it up www4.ncsu.edu/~carroll/time_travel/forward.html

I went to the cinema last night to see artur christmas , where can i buy a guun to shoot myself ?

{Ed033's Note - You're on the wrong site. Please go to the www.menopausalmantalk.co.uk or the www.talk-movies.co.uk site

To the New Guy Welcome to this site it is the best site and you get some healthy banter to, When we say everything we mean why the government has not told us how to get free energy,if Aliens visit this planet, why the moon is hollow, and many many more things that we have probably never heard of

MJ
{Ed033's Note - I will put a search box on here soon.

Hi Ed that was a different guy I think backing my point up. I did refer to Saddam gassing civilains, didn't have any figures available at the time. Also i;d forgotten China, just because no-one ever mentions it, i hadn't even heard of those figures before.

Lets just say that there have been a lot of nasty little sh!ts in power. {Ed001's Note - it seems that the people that choose to get power are the wrong people.}

Stalin - calculated death toll approximately 29 million......from purges and planned famine 1928-1938 left 17.4 million death. Another 11 million non-battle deaths from 1940-49 and 500,000 in Gulag deaths (1950-53).

Hitler death toll plus-or-minus 11 million. These from the infamous death camps (concentration camps) to eliminate the Jewish population, as well as gypsies, homosexuals, political opposition, mentally defective (Hitler's term) and others deemed a challenge to Hitler's idea of a perfect Aryan society.

And, as a side, Mao Zedong exceeds Hitler or Stalin with 44-1/2 million to 72 million. These were rural and urban purges, the "Great Leap Forward", cultural revolution, labor camps and Tibetan massacres. {Ed001's Note - I notice you don't include the mass murder of the Kurds by both Hussein and the Turks, that seems to always get forgotten because the Turks are in NATO. There were a fair few million of those that have been wiped from the face of the earth.}

Bush was a puppet ! nothing more , this guy could not read right never mind be comparable to hitler or saddam ! He was the puppet but who were the puppitears? He was used as the face of american greed ,a texan who came from oil and was known for the goodlife , likeable but stupid .Follow who owened companies he was directors or chairman of and you will find a source . redbloodgreensoul .

{Ed033's note - Andrew D. Basiago thinks so. He allegedly took part in Project Pegasus, which had time travel capability. Here is a presentation he gave in 2011 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OqWdiRUHP4

I work for a recycling company and it is all about money we have to apply for licenses annually to the Environmental Agency at a cost of thousands these organizations are just another arm of the government. These licenses cover everything from material movement to a fee for our site all because we choose to recycle. Governments are using the climate change excuse to make a fortune.
Ed - Am I right in saying that SEPA and EA are non profit organisations if so it begs the question where does the money go.

{Ed033's Note - Where does the money go. I would suggest that with a lot of organisations, the money goes into a private trust and the beneficiaries of that trust get to receive the benefits of the trust and the more money the trust has, the more benefits the beneficiaries receive.}

Red_Sky - what they did was wrong but our media and the americans have made things alot worse then they really are.

They don't show you Tony Blair kissing and hugging Gaddafi or Bin Ladin working for the CIA.
Bush is just as bad as all those above mentioned.

Azza