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Aren't they called Tacions(spelling), supposed to travel faster than light. Problem is they would be hard to see, as you know when you approach the speed of light, time slows down. this being the case our world actually starts moving through time faster than the Tacion, therefore they will vanish.........I think.
Sooty

It is fully proven! they did the experiments 15 thousand times.

Oops! my bad ed! haha. I'll give that a watch after the football!

What is your personal view? do they exist?

The Moon. {Ed033's Note - My take is that there is a portal near the skinwalker ranch through which a shape-shifting entity came through to Earth from somewhere else that likes attacking animals but won't attack people. Some researchers stayed at the ranch to not only study the phenomena but to capture the entity that was attacking the animals.}

Its not fully proved yet may turn out to be false.

This is easy lfc pick any point on the circumference

I would suggest 1 of 4 things in order of what i believe are most likely;

1) An secret military vehicle in testing.

2) Some form of animal which is yet to be discovered.

3) A fault in the machinery.

4) A hoax.

My personal belief would be an unknown animal, although It's likely to be military or government related.

The Moon.

How do you find the starting point of a circle...............lfc

Well they say the bible is basically the modern version of history of the world, from creation to present day. I thought it was well believed that the bible was written by very clever people who interpreted lots of information passed through different ages and civilisations and put it down metaphorically, citing 1 GOD as the creator, and delivering the rest through metaphorical biblical stories. E.g. Noah's ark = flooding of atlantis. 'And it rained down fire from the heavens, and they were turned to dust' - Sumerian nuclear bombing or whatever it was...incidentally, the word for dust in that region also means vapour...

I am loving the concept of God not being a creator in any magical sense but in an alien sense, that is so much more exciting. I heard somewhere recently that there are those who believe that the line 'Man was created in God's image' or whatever it is is not referring to a literal God-

They believe that the genetic variation between the different key races on earth are so large that it is impossible for us to have evolved that way. In other words, they believe we were created. Causasians, Africans, Orientals, Indians, - a product of genetic meddling done by 'god' - possibly aliens or prehistoric technologically superior beings. I love that idea. Not saying I believe it but it is such a great theory, I would love to learn more about this genetic thing.

Raz

Read 1984 George Orwell mate.

2 + 2 can mean anything.

Nope, 2 + 2 = 2 x 2

That is the answer.

Maybe when it was written they only had certain knowledge and had to find a way of getting it down safely so that future generations could understand it properly? In terms that they could understand without getting too technical.

Unfortunately as we are a species of nervous twitchy types scared of our own shadows we instead had to go and organise a religion whereby the dumb schmucks go and take everything communicated as literal.... rather than as technical allegories. Throw in all the mistranslations and the fact that its human nature to be sceptical.....

Mort.

Bond just jump in, this place can't get anymore crazier... {Ed007's Note - I bet it can lol}

A few links

ancient-wisdom.co.uk/surgery.htm

unknowncountry.com/news/prehistoric-brain-surgery

library.thinkquest.org/C0110299/brain/surgery.php?page=surgery1

accuracyingenesis.com/sodom.html

bib-arch.org/e-features/sodom-and-gomorrah.asp

jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id44.html

jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id9.html

alkaif.geek.nz/blog/noahs-ark-a-dna-bank/

Mort I reckon Genesis is based on the origins of our planet and conveniently bypasses the notion of something even coming before us, or that we are part of something greater.

Wasn't there something in the news the other day about some sort of proof in Siberia or was i dreaming?

I did have a conversation with Ed001 back when i first started coming on here about the examples of advanced tech used back in prehistory, the bible etc.

For example we both think that the whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing was an example of atomic weaponry. ED001 said he thinks Noah's ark was achieved by them taking on aboard genetic samples, dna and etc. And also Ed gave some examples of pre historic people surviving brain surgery which means they must have had at least the knowledge.

I'll throw in another to that, the story of Adam and Eve, Eve being created from Adam's rib. Cloning anyone?

I think it all comes down to what was "before".

If it was all a speck of matter the size of a piece of dust and it exploded then where did the speck come from? What was there before? What caused it to explode?

If Genesis is correct, then where did God come from? Again what was there before? How did God come into being?

Mort

As for Monks i think it's a combination of training, meditation and some assistance from some herbal, medicinal hallucinogenics to help them to take that further step from meditation.
Mort

The Moon, that is an interesting point. I am curious how these monks get into their states. Sometimes it is through drugs, sometimes through meditation, sometimes both. One thing I will say is that when taking Ketamin you can have an outer body experience where you feel like your inner being if you like has just floated off and you go with it - your thought processes are 100% fine though. Still thinking clearly, assessing what you 'see', but physically the body doesn't work too well. So I do believe that there is easily a way these monks say they experience this, the human brain is deffo capable of entering that state, be it through drugs, meditation, training, or things like near-death experiences.

I also am atheist though. I think he word Blasphemy' is utterly vindictive - it is laced with guilt more than any other word in the world IMO. What you do as a living biological being has absolutely no impact on what your soul does. I believe this to the point where it pisses me off that others don't, even though I have to respect their beliefs.
I believe that there are a few equally sensible theories for creation, but I 100% believe that any God that does exist is a biological entity of some form or other and therefore not a god in the sense that is considered these days.

Raz