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21 Jan 2020 08:38:02
OK, so it turns out it's the "Book of Veles". An apparent "literary forgery" of ancient Slavic text with accounts dating from the 7th century BC to the 9th century AD.

Wikipedia on Veles

Here's a PDF version of Book of Veles

19 Jan 2020 18:02:40
Sorry. Spacex, sure you realise it was sarcasm anyway. haha

Why can't they for once put a side-view cam on any launch?

19 Jan 2020 17:29:57
How are nasa supposed to afford hi-res on their budget, Ed?

19 Jan 2020 13:21:05
"valis" was what the uploader's (and creator of the video? ) subtitles said, but that could be down to interpretation? . Usually, search engines throw up the correct spelling or what you think you are looking for. Funnily there was nothing this time! . Like I said, that was the only book I could find. I did expect it to be an older text / book too.

I'll try and touch base with her. She sounds very knowledgeable so let's hope I can get hold of her and acquire some good info.

Thanks as always, Ed.

19 Jan 2020 07:00:42
Do you think, that is who she is referring too? . A lot of the reviews on that book said it wasn't really Scifi. And it was all I could find with "valis".

Thanks for the pdf link, Ed. Appreciated. I did find that. But, still, I have brought the 1st volume as I like hard copies to make notes in. If I find they're something I can interpret, I would probably get the remaining (4/ 5?) volumes on pdf as it will get pretty expensive otherwise.


I started to read and research this Velikovsky book supplement last night but got too late. Was very interesting what I read so far.

Earth In Upheaval

18 Jan 2020 21:12:43
I'm guessing the Fomenko book (s) (just vol 1 for now) will be a hard read, Ed. A lot of his work if not all is based on astronomy, so to check in to things accurately, will probably involve some pretty complex mathematics. I speculate though. I'll just have to wait and see.

You can be assured any knowledge or insight I can gain from said books, will be passed on.

As for book of valis. All I can find is Valis (SF MASTERWORKS) by Phillip K Dick. Does that name ring any bells? (no pun intended)

18 Jan 2020 19:00:58
Thanks for the OP, I think this is a better avenue of research, for now, rather than ancient languages that may or may not have been altered, with timelines that don't appear to match.

I was beginning to think Newton was a shill, what with that pesky apple! But what, with his book. Guess that puts things into question. Unless the apple incident was post-book? Maybe taken into the cult and forced to reinforce lies, after?

I'll read Newtons and Fomenko's books and start delving into this properly, from there. Hoping they have references!

Any idea what the lady means when she talks about "the book of valis"?

18 Jan 2020 15:39:02
I have not watched that video yet, but I had thought about there being dis-info as well, which is why I wanted to get hold of un-revised editions. Not that I would believe everything I read, but you understand?

I have been thinking about trying to learn some of the old languages (Sanskrit, Egyptian, Hebrew, Tamil) so I could at least read the original scrolls and scripts. Possibly even learn cuneiform. But the same problem would exist. I doubt I would be able to transcribe any of it from scratch so I would need to trust the person/ book/ information that was teaching me to understand these languages/ writing systems. Again its the problem of knowing who or what to trust.

18 Jan 2020 12:53:28
Basically because of the last few months research and although the internet can be a great source of info, I have turned my eye to old texts/ scriptures. The older and unsullied the better. Which can be hard as everything is "revised" these days. I just want to expand my knowledge and get my own facts and insights. Funnily enough I'm waiting for an Ignatius Donnelly book form the late 1800's. Would have been apt had I already read this book, to add more to this conversation.

18 Jan 2020 11:07:39
Ahh. OK. Well put like that, then yes. They are very relevant and likewise, my thinking is of that ilk. Actually (with things clicking in to place), its very easy just to transition the "space alien" species such as the greys and reptilians, into extra-Earthers. And more importantly, as all of these are "humanoid" in their appearance. It would all make a lot more sense for them to be of this Earth.

18 Jan 2020 08:49:48
Yes, it was watching that video on macro evolution that started this branch of investigations, for me. I started watching videos in a different way thanks to wise words from you. "If I watch a video and think 40% is true and 60% is false. After watching, I don't then go and think 100% is false". That really resonated with me. Almost as though it fried the switch in my brain that bulk-deleted things that rubbed the MS narrative up the wrong way. Weird, difficult to explain. Anyway, thanks, Ed! .

Back to the Antarctic ice wall. There is an old FE amp showing lands spread around and beyond the ice wall. Sheeple say its a hoax, but obviously they would. I did see an article about a guy who was planning a cross Antarctic trip, but I can't find it again, so I don't know if it was even real, let alone when it was supposed to happen.

These lands could even be where the elite reside? . ET's and that which I used to research a lot ( the Universe/ multi-verse/ QED etc) seem irrelevant at this moment. As I stated the FE/ dome theory has really put everything into question.

“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ”
― Nikola Tesla.

17 Jan 2020 22:17:31
I've been a conspiracist for over 25 years now. But if you told me 2 months ago I would be starting to question the globe Earth theory (not that I would have called it that) and starting to really think about the possibility that, the Earth could be flat. I would say you were insane! .

What a difference a bit of time and open eyed research makes.

The facts are there and they add up, just a bitch of a pill to swallow. I think its because this is the pinnacle of all conspiracies. If its true, then basically pretty much everything we've been told is a lie. Literally everything.

16 Jan 2020 23:55:25
p1, have you ever thought why all the videos you and Ed033 have linked, have now disappeared?

16 Jan 2020 19:47:31
What do you make of the arson arrests in Australia?

16 Jan 2020 18:22:25
You only have to look on the Manchester United page today to see how most, if not all, are asleep by saying all the Australian fires etc are climate change and being the MSBS's echo chamber.

Rather than start a rant on there and get called a retard by the narrow minded, I thought I would post here, this very well presented video filled with facts that show this sort of thing has been going on for decades.
But the sheep will stay asleep, nonetheless.

15 Jan 2020 23:57:48
Yes. He released a 6 second video prior to this one just stating "The Earth is flat". This one seemed to be more of a apologetic video response to aplanetruth4u. (It is his video above this one) . So I am guessing whatever MI has seen/ read will be explained in part 2 as he didn't really go into anything in this. As in how he came to the "levels" theory conclusion and what happened in the last 6 days?

15 Jan 2020 23:27:13
Some of this is pretty bizarre. Part 2 might give us some insight on the weird stuff he talked about.

15 Jan 2020 22:47:29
More research of the ilk that made him believe the Earth was flat? . I have seen a lot of stuff but would be interesting to know what changed his mind.

15 Jan 2020 20:25:02
And didn't he just disappear? Found the edge? haha.

15 Jan 2020 18:49:26
Tony, I know it all sounds and seems preposterous. Most things on these pages do, and it takes a lot to not just brush it off as such. But, like Ed said, if you are interested in finding out your own truths, the last few pages of videos on this site are worth watching with an open mind. I think you'll find most arguments against all of these subjects, that pop into your mind whilst watching, will be because you have been told otherwise, and the arguments are not coming from your own observations.

On this site we are just humble seekers of truth. What that truth actually is, I don't think any of us know for sure.