05 Jun 2017 10:46:08
Didn't take it as degrading at all Standard. Just like Manchester and the previous London attack however, I think it is essential that we ask questions. We all owe it to the victims to continue to ask questions until we fully understand how and why this happened. I respect your opinion but I don't understand how you can be absolutely certain this is not a false flag within a few hours of the attack.
9/11 was very real and most of us here agree it was not 19 Saudis in four planes masterminded by another Saudi in a cave in Afghanistan. But that remains the official story. We must look beyond the msm narrative if we want to know what really happened. That takes time, and I want to study this in as much depth as possible before I can even begin to offer an opinion on who I think is really behind these attacks.
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05 Jun 2017 00:49:53
9/11 was definitely a false flag or at the very least something really fishy.
I do not believe everything the media tells us as the most of it is bs.
Just reread my message, wasn't meaning to be degrading at all, I just don't believe it was fishy at all.
Read discussion9/11 was definitely a false flag or at the very least something really fishy.
I do not believe everything the media tells us as the most of it is bs.
Just reread my message, wasn't meaning to be degrading at all, I just don't believe it was fishy at all.
04 Jun 2017 23:21:37
In look into all things before I normally give an opinion about weather its false flag or not, but surely they can't just kill innocent children to try and control us. I understand things in the past have been false flags but can't get my head round the concert and knowing would be full of kids. Yet I also find it hard to believe the bomber blew himself to bits yet he's bank card was perfectly fine, bit like them indestructible passports.
Read discussionIn look into all things before I normally give an opinion about weather its false flag or not, but surely they can't just kill innocent children to try and control us. I understand things in the past have been false flags but can't get my head round the concert and knowing would be full of kids. Yet I also find it hard to believe the bomber blew himself to bits yet he's bank card was perfectly fine, bit like them indestructible passports.
04 Jun 2017 18:17:53
we are going to hell in a handcart, its only going to get worse, and its no good relying on our leaders to help us as they only do what they are told, the whole of Europe is splintering plus you throw trump into the mix as well as the threat from north korea and the picture becomes very bleak indeed, get used to seeing benefit concerts and black armbands every 5 minutes, plus of course the usual rhetoric regarding the latest "terrorist incident" being spouted by politicians and celebraties who are well protected from the real world by there wealth and fame, my heart goes out to all the innocent victims off all these attacks, however I expect these type of incidents to be more common, if all you need is a vehicle and a knife and to shout allah, then we are all potential terrorists a scary thought. Stay safe readers because it seems nowhere is now safe.
Read discussionwe are going to hell in a handcart, its only going to get worse, and its no good relying on our leaders to help us as they only do what they are told, the whole of Europe is splintering plus you throw trump into the mix as well as the threat from north korea and the picture becomes very bleak indeed, get used to seeing benefit concerts and black armbands every 5 minutes, plus of course the usual rhetoric regarding the latest "terrorist incident" being spouted by politicians and celebraties who are well protected from the real world by there wealth and fame, my heart goes out to all the innocent victims off all these attacks, however I expect these type of incidents to be more common, if all you need is a vehicle and a knife and to shout allah, then we are all potential terrorists a scary thought. Stay safe readers because it seems nowhere is now safe.
04 Jun 2017 18:41:14
Not a false flag for me! It's easier to call false flags for atrocities else where when your miles from it! I don't understand how it would make people vote tory.
Read discussionNot a false flag for me! It's easier to call false flags for atrocities else where when your miles from it! I don't understand how it would make people vote tory.
04 Jun 2017 16:49:17
Polls closing for the tories and terrorist attacks start apperaring. Too much of a coincidence for me, they would probably win without these attacks, just making sure they win, unneccesary loss of lives just for an election victory, what has my country become?
Read discussionPolls closing for the tories and terrorist attacks start apperaring. Too much of a coincidence for me, they would probably win without these attacks, just making sure they win, unneccesary loss of lives just for an election victory, what has my country become?
04 Jun 2017 16:32:12
Who shouted conspiracy? No one here that I can see. The loss of life is sickening, but I couldn't say definitively this is or isn't a false flag after only a few hours. It's too early for me to develop an opinion. But I reserve the right to ask a question. And I'd like to ask you one. Do you think 9/ 11 wasn't a false flag?
Read discussionWho shouted conspiracy? No one here that I can see. The loss of life is sickening, but I couldn't say definitively this is or isn't a false flag after only a few hours. It's too early for me to develop an opinion. But I reserve the right to ask a question. And I'd like to ask you one. Do you think 9/ 11 wasn't a false flag?
04 Jun 2017 14:10:54
Rian how is that so hard to believe? People are so quick to shout conspiracy it's ridiculous. I'm not trolling but this is a very real scenario, no false flag for me.
Read discussionRian how is that so hard to believe? People are so quick to shout conspiracy it's ridiculous. I'm not trolling but this is a very real scenario, no false flag for me.
04 Jun 2017 11:23:53
BBC reporter Holly Jones was on the bridge and the van swerved right round her and hit 5 or 6 people.
3 men with fake bomb vests jumped out.
Really?
Read discussionBBC reporter Holly Jones was on the bridge and the van swerved right round her and hit 5 or 6 people.
3 men with fake bomb vests jumped out.
Really?
04 Jun 2017 03:14:28
Ed, do you think these recent attacks could be false flags, with the purpose of creating divides within the uk and also solidifying the brexit stance?
Read discussionEd, do you think these recent attacks could be false flags, with the purpose of creating divides within the uk and also solidifying the brexit stance?
04 Jun 2017 01:17:10
I think it's an absolute disgrace that the word Muslim or Islam has not been said by police or media. Watched a video today of smirking mayor of London saying we should get used to terrosim. What's is wrong with the British men in this country, when did we all turn into lefty wimps who just summit to this Islam problem we have n this country. How has it got this bad. The whole of Europe is in such as mess, cival war is round the corner and the we will be fighting our own government as well as Isis. Our ancestors who fought for are freedom will be turning in there grave.
Read discussionI think it's an absolute disgrace that the word Muslim or Islam has not been said by police or media. Watched a video today of smirking mayor of London saying we should get used to terrosim. What's is wrong with the British men in this country, when did we all turn into lefty wimps who just summit to this Islam problem we have n this country. How has it got this bad. The whole of Europe is in such as mess, cival war is round the corner and the we will be fighting our own government as well as Isis. Our ancestors who fought for are freedom will be turning in there grave.
04 Jun 2017 02:59:15
so basically all you need for terrorism is a vehicle and a knife, similar to the last incident in London, plus we had the Manchester situation, all against a backdrop of a general election, no doubt we will need more legislation to protect us even though protection from a maniac would be near impossible, we will probably be told in due course the suspects were known to the authorities, love to hear your thoughts on this ed033, me personally something just does not add up.
Read discussionso basically all you need for terrorism is a vehicle and a knife, similar to the last incident in London, plus we had the Manchester situation, all against a backdrop of a general election, no doubt we will need more legislation to protect us even though protection from a maniac would be near impossible, we will probably be told in due course the suspects were known to the authorities, love to hear your thoughts on this ed033, me personally something just does not add up.
27 May 2017 22:27:21
Yes, it's one of their best informative shows they've done.
Read discussionYes, it's one of their best informative shows they've done.
27 May 2017 19:19:23
I completely agree ed, political correctness is the end of free speech.
Where i come from we don't really see it much, but while in university i saw it alot. Back home the people aren't pc especially the older generation. The point being none of this is in malice, when i was younger one and still to some extent now, people use non-pc terms. Non of it in malice and non of it taken as offensive. Though if some terms were used in citys or posted on here for example, i'd have the pc police knocking on my door. I see it as as long as your not intending to cause harm/ inslut or dehumanise someone, then the people who shout racist, biggot, sexist etc then its fine.
It doesn't matter if your white, black, brown or sky blue and baby pink, we're all human and if people stepped away from themselves and realised we are all human. David Icke said it best, we should have 1 law "anyone can do anything they want, aslong you don't have malicious intent; and as long as it doesn't affect anyone negatively"
We're already being lead and controlled by psychopaths and black suits. How people don't see it is crazy to me. Its so blatent, even my dead great gran can see it. You don't have to even believe in a conspiracy to realise just look at the world around you.
- laws to force you how to live.
- fractional reserve banking. (The craziest and most important thing people don't understand) .
- again, political correctness.
Just look how the political and upper classes live, then look at how we live yet they control how we live. If megastars etc were that bothered about charity they could sort africas issues out on thier own most likely.
Also, germany have this week proposed/ passed a law that will fine parents €2500 if they don't vaccinate thier children. That says. it all.
Read discussionI completely agree ed, political correctness is the end of free speech.
Where i come from we don't really see it much, but while in university i saw it alot. Back home the people aren't pc especially the older generation. The point being none of this is in malice, when i was younger one and still to some extent now, people use non-pc terms. Non of it in malice and non of it taken as offensive. Though if some terms were used in citys or posted on here for example, i'd have the pc police knocking on my door. I see it as as long as your not intending to cause harm/ inslut or dehumanise someone, then the people who shout racist, biggot, sexist etc then its fine.
It doesn't matter if your white, black, brown or sky blue and baby pink, we're all human and if people stepped away from themselves and realised we are all human. David Icke said it best, we should have 1 law "anyone can do anything they want, aslong you don't have malicious intent; and as long as it doesn't affect anyone negatively"
We're already being lead and controlled by psychopaths and black suits. How people don't see it is crazy to me. Its so blatent, even my dead great gran can see it. You don't have to even believe in a conspiracy to realise just look at the world around you.
- laws to force you how to live.
- fractional reserve banking. (The craziest and most important thing people don't understand) .
- again, political correctness.
Just look how the political and upper classes live, then look at how we live yet they control how we live. If megastars etc were that bothered about charity they could sort africas issues out on thier own most likely.
Also, germany have this week proposed/ passed a law that will fine parents €2500 if they don't vaccinate thier children. That says. it all.
27 May 2017 16:15:54
Thanks ed. I don't think there will ever be a world war 3 properly, if anything we are already in ww3.
People need to wake up and realise n. Korea and missile tests, manchester bombings, war on terror, global warming, isis and the middle east, increasing debt, low reserves of fossil fuels etc. Are not issues they're tactics.
Religion is a control mechanism, war is a control mechanism, federal reserve banking is a control mechanism, mass immigration is a control mechanism.
The real issue is the general population follow what the leaders say, the leaders follow what their funders say.
The only people who have our best interests at heart is us, we as a global population need to drop religion, drop war, drop our material wants.
We are all human, and to take a science/ nihilist view, more people need to ponder the question, why does this even exist?
There is no law to state existence should occur, even scientific, religious and simulation theories, all have the question what came before? What drove existence? And even if you believe in god, simulation, big bang or the duality of pure consciousness, what came before? Who created it all.
Lets enjoy and rejoice our time in life and consciousness. let's revel in the impossibility of our universes and our existence, for our time is short, so why waste it on hate and anger. We are all complete impossibility as well as infinite possibility.
Sorry for the rant/ speech.
Valley gooner out, much love.
Read discussionThanks ed. I don't think there will ever be a world war 3 properly, if anything we are already in ww3.
People need to wake up and realise n. Korea and missile tests, manchester bombings, war on terror, global warming, isis and the middle east, increasing debt, low reserves of fossil fuels etc. Are not issues they're tactics.
Religion is a control mechanism, war is a control mechanism, federal reserve banking is a control mechanism, mass immigration is a control mechanism.
The real issue is the general population follow what the leaders say, the leaders follow what their funders say.
The only people who have our best interests at heart is us, we as a global population need to drop religion, drop war, drop our material wants.
We are all human, and to take a science/ nihilist view, more people need to ponder the question, why does this even exist?
There is no law to state existence should occur, even scientific, religious and simulation theories, all have the question what came before? What drove existence? And even if you believe in god, simulation, big bang or the duality of pure consciousness, what came before? Who created it all.
Lets enjoy and rejoice our time in life and consciousness. let's revel in the impossibility of our universes and our existence, for our time is short, so why waste it on hate and anger. We are all complete impossibility as well as infinite possibility.
Sorry for the rant/ speech.
Valley gooner out, much love.
27 May 2017 15:26:16
They've already showed us:
- internet censorship
- mass immigration
- political correctness
- constant war
- loss of western identity
- fake news
The elite are removing our identity, therefore removing our bond to our compatriots.
They are removing our forum for complete free speech (internet) .
They are using immigration and political correctness and immigration to remove our culture/ identity. (When was the last time you had a street party for v day? )
They make the western population feel ashamed of our past.
We have the war on terror and war on drugs, endless wars that stop the general population from experiencing things our ancestors did. As well as keeping us in fear.
Once we become completely demoralised and submissive (we are close), world war 3 will start, populations will cease to exist and whoever is left will be segregated in the guise of supporting the last of the human race.
Read discussionThey've already showed us:
- internet censorship
- mass immigration
- political correctness
- constant war
- loss of western identity
- fake news
The elite are removing our identity, therefore removing our bond to our compatriots.
They are removing our forum for complete free speech (internet) .
They are using immigration and political correctness and immigration to remove our culture/ identity. (When was the last time you had a street party for v day? )
They make the western population feel ashamed of our past.
We have the war on terror and war on drugs, endless wars that stop the general population from experiencing things our ancestors did. As well as keeping us in fear.
Once we become completely demoralised and submissive (we are close), world war 3 will start, populations will cease to exist and whoever is left will be segregated in the guise of supporting the last of the human race.
27 May 2017 13:04:15
Amazing thread. Thanks for your efforts ed033.
Read discussionAmazing thread. Thanks for your efforts ed033.
27 May 2017 06:46:59
Must be me then just trying to add more reasons to hate the media.
Read discussionMust be me then just trying to add more reasons to hate the media.
25 May 2017 10:45:30
never seen anything like that, trying to play devils advocate, could it be a drone? or something man made?
Read discussionnever seen anything like that, trying to play devils advocate, could it be a drone? or something man made?
23 May 2017 23:42:57
Total conjecture at the moment. All the verified evidence is in abundance of the out of Africa theory.
Read discussionTotal conjecture at the moment. All the verified evidence is in abundance of the out of Africa theory.