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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 18 Sep 2015 10:51
18 Sep 2015 11:48:15
I'd watch this viedo if you have time as well mate. Only 14 mins long, but might re enforce that your beliefs aren't stupid, and possibly give you hope that people are with you on this journey through life.

Mike Tyson (a bloke I generally wouldn't suggest quoting) wrote in his book about his struggle with depression - Brightest lights, darkest shadows. Something that has always resonated with me.

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Reply · frankyscouser · 18 Sep 2015 10:43
18 Sep 2015 11:16:11
hazzard, I would take Melbourne and Herbie's advice on this mate , at 16 I was chasing girls, playing football etc.
was always aware something was not right but living my life came first and to be honest at that age, I don't think my my brain would be able to process what I know now.

you are not alone feller.
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Reply · HoneyBadger · 18 Sep 2015 10:00
18 Sep 2015 10:27:06
Mate your post has struck a chord with me and others I'm sure. I'm 30 now but still share many of the feelings you describe, which is why I have to take a step back sometimes and concentrate on positive things.

Theres some great advice above - try to find like minded people like on this site, exercise and diet really does help.

Agree with Herbie, its best to take weed from a positive place rather than as an escape, try to work on the other things first then maybe weed will still appeal to you in the future when you're in a stronger position.

Try not to despair and don't feel alone because you are far from it.
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Reply · HERBIE · 18 Sep 2015 08:48
18 Sep 2015 09:21:22
Hazard
Try not to overthink about all the bad things in life, your young, you need to enjoy your youth not let your youth be eaten away, thses are the best years of your life, enjoy then and have fun.
Weed should be a personel choice so please don't let circumstance dictate weather you want it or not, that's just been defeatist.
Dude stick to this page. we all wear tin foil hats in here and believe me, it helps your sanity talking with like minded people.
Stay cool.
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Reply · defender of humanity · 18 Sep 2015 04:47
18 Sep 2015 02:57:25
Hey hazard, first of all dude try not to be depressed I know its a sad world but try take comfort in the fact that most of the people if not all on this site feel the same about the world,your in good company.i smoke weed sometimes wouldn't advise anyone to take drugs but hey everything in moderation as long as it is in moderation.I would consider yourself pretty smart and perceptive for noticing the world is pretty messed up as most the population are like sheep moulded by the media.so chin up dude be cool ;-)
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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 18 Sep 2015 04:47
18 Sep 2015 03:28:05
Hey mate, first things first, you aren't alone and you're certainly not the first person to feel the way you do. I've done a little work with people that struggle with both anxiety and depression, mainly people in your age range and as someone who has suffered with mental illness for large portions of my life, I'd like to think I have some ability in helping others who face the same struggles.

I won't go too long winded, but honestly mate, if you feel you need to chat about things more in depth, ask Ed033 for my e-mail and I'd be more than happy to be an outlet for you in the long term.

At 16 you're far more courageous than I was to be able to come onto a forum like this and express what you have, and while things can often seem overwhelming and you can feel disengaged with society as your interests don't align with 'the majorities', life can also become the most incredible, loving experience at the drop of a hat.

Before you look at Marijuana as a viable solution (which it certainly could be), I'd consider how well you maintain your life in its current form. What is your diet like? Its hugely underestimated just how much of an impact this has on your mental state. Recently Dr Ronda Patrick did a talk about the discovery of a direct line from your gut to your brain. I can't remember the medical term for the line, but think of it as a vein. A thin inner tube that goes directly from your gut to your brain. And studies have begun to show that if your gut health is poor (most peoples are), it has a direct effect on your state of mind. Also, doctors in the US have begun taking a stand against Pharmaceutical companies, by prescribing patients fruit and vegetables, rather than anti depressants anti anxiety pills etc. as the human diet is so far out of whack with what it should be.

Secondly how much do you exercise? You've obviously a football fan mate (and luckily support the best team in the world) do you play? Exercise is huge for your mental health as it not only can improve your bodily functions, but while exercising we release endorphins that make us feel good. And if you go to the gym etc. you begin to feel proud of your body which in turn makes you feel better about yourself. I found Jiu Jitsu helped me in some of my darker days, as it helps give you confidence that you can protect yourself, so you go into situations not as worried about being hurt by someone else. A strange thing to worry about as a kid, but I have lived a strange life and its a common worry amongst men.

I know, as a starting point, those sound condescending as suggestions, and I know how I felt at 16 when someone would tell you that stuff. But I promise you mate, there's reason they do. Its simple but helps a huge amount.

I'd also consider mindfulness or another form of meditation. I get my Buddha on, probably 2-3 times a week. Sometimes for 15 mins, sometimes for upwards of an hour. What meditation does for me is calm my mind, make me view my life from an objective stand point, and allows me not to get upset by someone else's opinions. Trust me, I'm the black sheep in my family for my past drug history and views on the world, but I've learnt over time that its just a difference of opinions. I have complete faith in my beliefs, and I'm secure enough in them that someone questioning them has no emotional effect on me. Not everyone has to agree with you in this life. Just like you don't have to agree with everyone, but just because you don't agree, doesn't mean you need to fight.

Generally I'd say jump head first into a joint and see if it helps, but at 16 (and I'm sure you hate hearing about being too young) you're cognitive abilities are still being developed. Although I believe Marijuana is solely a positive plant, with positive impacts, enough studies haven't been done on the effects of a developing brain for me to say jump in. But its certainly an option mate. Maybe just not the first.

There's far more info I'm happy to help out with regarding the subconscious, and also some Podcasts etc. that I think will help you feel more secure in your skin if you want to shoot me an e-mail mate. As I said just ask the Ed's and I'm sure they'll assist. Can't stress enough though mate, you're not alone in this world. Not in your beliefs or in our feelings.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 17 Sep 2015 21:35
17 Sep 2015 21:34:06
Yes franky I know I used to hand over funds from Moscow to certain figures in both the labour party and the trades unions.

The point is any party contains a spectrum moving from the extreme to the centre. Corybn is firmly on the extreme of the party. The blairite faction is supposedly towards the centre.

And yes I agree with the other guy regards parties having too much power and influence.
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Reply · HoneyBadger · 17 Sep 2015 20:00
17 Sep 2015 20:48:42
I meant to add that the party system breeds corruption via funding and lobbying. Then you get groomed politicians being given safe seats and generally helped up the greasy pole. Scrapping the parties could rid us of much of this corruption, funding would need to be 100% transparent unlike todays system.
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Reply · HoneyBadger · 17 Sep 2015 19:42
17 Sep 2015 20:40:15
If I was in charge I would scrap the parties altogether, make everyone independent and therefore directly accountable to their local constituents. No more mp's towing the part line, no more us versus them mentality - just everyone working together to get their local issues represented fairly no matter whether a policy is seen as left or right wing.

Obviously this would never happen as the elite need for us to be in a constant battle against each other (whilst they do as the please) rather than working together for the common good.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 17 Sep 2015 19:22
17 Sep 2015 20:20:01
what I meant kim was, the LAB party has always been left wing apart from the last 20 years but the press are making it out that he has gone like starlin like.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 17 Sep 2015 16:56
17 Sep 2015 17:34:55
Yes the boys at Langley are massively in the drugs trade hence involvement in Indochina and Afghanistan.

The interconnections between the military industrial complex, via and big business not just the pharma
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Reply · TTTS · 17 Sep 2015 16:56
17 Sep 2015 17:27:07
It seems that the leftness in the last election wasn't the problem but the fact that labour were too centre and with the election of Corbyn if he can be defined in his manifesto he,ll pick up a lot of lost labour voters plus many of the floating votes. radio 4. Game on 😀
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Reply · KimPhilby · 17 Sep 2015 16:56
17 Sep 2015 17:27:24
As I said I don't subscribe to it myself.

Franky he is left wing. There's not much to the left of him. Be interesting to see how it goes.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 17 Sep 2015 15:53
17 Sep 2015 16:49:16
yeah I don't buy that theory myself ,the only reason corbyn looks left wing is because new labour turned it 360.

cheers will read up on those guys when I get time.
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Reply · HoneyBadger · 17 Sep 2015 15:49
17 Sep 2015 16:47:53
I agree with you franky in as much as I'm just glad he opens peoples eyes to a different option/opinions, hopefully he will at least wake a few people up along the way. I can't see him ever getting into power because of the corrupt system but I'm glad we don't have the likes of Andy Burnham as the 'alternative' choice as he comes across like a generic career politician, no different in that sense to Cameron, Clegg, Blair etc.

I am also intrigued by the theory Kim mentioned.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 17 Sep 2015 15:33
17 Sep 2015 16:28:39
The theory, and I don't subscribe to it myself, is that corbyn is there as a far left leader to panic the rest of the party into accepting a leader seen as less far left wing than corbyn but still more left wing than the party would have originally wanted. And also someone that is totally in the pocket of the unions. Which corbyn isn't.

On a side note if you have the time i'd suggest you look up Ron Hayward. Interesting figure in the labour party. And from there Alec kitson.
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Reply · Melbourne CFC · 17 Sep 2015 15:27
17 Sep 2015 16:16:25
If you go deeper in the rabbit hole Kim I think you'll find big pharma has far greater control then we are led to believe, and may pull the strings of the Military Industrial complex. Its known that in Afghanistan the military was tasked with protecting the enormous poppy fields. Some claim it is due to the CIA's involvement in drug trafficing. I think the answer lies elsewhere.

We know that when a paper was published in the late 60's that showed that electrical stimulus to the brain at a certain brain wave cured epilepsy. Once published funding was cut to the scientist and other scientists were paid to go out and actively say the results were a lie. This scientist was paid by NASA to study the effects the fuel used on the initial space programs was having on the astronauts. He stumbled upon something that threatened big pharmas ability to make money and was duely silenced. Even know epilepsy is prevelant in society. If they want something, Government is and has always put legislation in place to make it a reality.
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Reply · KimPhilby · 17 Sep 2015 15:27
17 Sep 2015 16:20:10
Just something I saw someone mention online so doing a bit of reading. Thought I'd ask if you had heard of it.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 17 Sep 2015 15:05
17 Sep 2015 15:58:36
corbyn is not the answer , never has been and your right the system is corrupt that is why you need a person like corbyn to identify the corruption .

what theory is that kim?
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