29 Aug 2015 13:08:29
Yes the editor is right. Religious people do not have the monopoly on illogicality. Look at the new religion of politics. Just as many failed philosophers and promises of new dawns.
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29 Aug 2015 13:05:24
Id have took his name, said I wish to complain to your manager about your attitude and gotten very insistent.
Read discussionId have took his name, said I wish to complain to your manager about your attitude and gotten very insistent.
29 Aug 2015 07:50:48
Cheers, Ed. I am keeping notes on what's happened.
KimPhilby - I'm usually really good on the phone and pretty much always get my way, which was adding extra fuel to my anger as I wasn't getting anywhere. I demanded to speak to management and they point blank refused to let me speak to ANYONE else. The reason being was that, they would only have access to the same screen the cretin I was talking too, had. It was at this point that I realised I was wasting my time, and not quite sure of the best course of action, I came on here to seek advice. I have to admit it makes me feel uncomfortable having being told I am dead. Especially when its something as powerful as a bank saying it.
Thanks
Read discussionCheers, Ed. I am keeping notes on what's happened.
KimPhilby - I'm usually really good on the phone and pretty much always get my way, which was adding extra fuel to my anger as I wasn't getting anywhere. I demanded to speak to management and they point blank refused to let me speak to ANYONE else. The reason being was that, they would only have access to the same screen the cretin I was talking too, had. It was at this point that I realised I was wasting my time, and not quite sure of the best course of action, I came on here to seek advice. I have to admit it makes me feel uncomfortable having being told I am dead. Especially when its something as powerful as a bank saying it.
Thanks
29 Aug 2015 00:29:28
On the phone you should always insist on speaking to their supervisor / manager.
Read discussionOn the phone you should always insist on speaking to their supervisor / manager.
28 Aug 2015 23:44:47
I agree it is more than likely illogical, and I have been myself battling with religion my whole life, being brought up as a christian, and this is something that I too scoffed at the thought of at first. However after watching the presentations, I have to say this is one of three things.
1. Sept 23rd is going to be a date of significance, whether it be FEMA, Start of WW3, Global Stock Market crash etc. and maybe as you said, they are using biblical prophesy to bring in their "NWO", or something else ( A fake rapture/ abduction by aliens has also been discussed).
2. A real life Christian/Jewish rapture, certainly the least likely in all probability.
3. The day/week will pass and nothing happens, and this was just another fear-mongering tactic, all created by the elite-ists, to keep people distracted from other issues going on. (Probably the most likely)
The reason I say "created by the elite-ists" is because of as I said in my above post, the amount of pre-programming propaganda relating to this date, is quite significant, even coming from the lips of a leading E.U. representative for climate change (I think he was) stating we have 500 hundred days to avoid "climate chaos", ending on Sept 23rd. Strange choice of words, considering he didn't elaborate on what he meant.
Read discussionI agree it is more than likely illogical, and I have been myself battling with religion my whole life, being brought up as a christian, and this is something that I too scoffed at the thought of at first. However after watching the presentations, I have to say this is one of three things.
1. Sept 23rd is going to be a date of significance, whether it be FEMA, Start of WW3, Global Stock Market crash etc. and maybe as you said, they are using biblical prophesy to bring in their "NWO", or something else ( A fake rapture/ abduction by aliens has also been discussed).
2. A real life Christian/Jewish rapture, certainly the least likely in all probability.
3. The day/week will pass and nothing happens, and this was just another fear-mongering tactic, all created by the elite-ists, to keep people distracted from other issues going on. (Probably the most likely)
The reason I say "created by the elite-ists" is because of as I said in my above post, the amount of pre-programming propaganda relating to this date, is quite significant, even coming from the lips of a leading E.U. representative for climate change (I think he was) stating we have 500 hundred days to avoid "climate chaos", ending on Sept 23rd. Strange choice of words, considering he didn't elaborate on what he meant.
28 Aug 2015 22:46:13
Thanks for your responses Ed033 and Zari, you both make interesting points. ED, I don't think "Illogical" is the term to describe a number of articles I have read or videos I have watched. They seemed very rational, well thought through, aware of other "alternative views", but just had religious overtones. Thanks again.
Read discussionThanks for your responses Ed033 and Zari, you both make interesting points. ED, I don't think "Illogical" is the term to describe a number of articles I have read or videos I have watched. They seemed very rational, well thought through, aware of other "alternative views", but just had religious overtones. Thanks again.
28 Aug 2015 20:10:27
I will include that but tbh I am not expecting any compensation for anything I do to get this situation, sorted. I once opened a second account (upgraded) with this same bank and I was supplied with a bank card and all the details of new account. Gave the new account details to my employer for my (then) weekly BACS payment. On pay day, went to draw some cash and account was empty. Contacted bank and they said that my employer must have withdrawn the money from my account because they had know idea where my money was. The convo got pretty heated from that point, as not only had they lost my money, they were seemingly admitting that they were giving access to withdraw money from my account to any old mug.
Took me over 10days to get my money back. No apology, no compensation, no explanation. If the tables were turned, and it was me stealing/losing their money, they'd take the shirt off my back.
Read discussionI will include that but tbh I am not expecting any compensation for anything I do to get this situation, sorted. I once opened a second account (upgraded) with this same bank and I was supplied with a bank card and all the details of new account. Gave the new account details to my employer for my (then) weekly BACS payment. On pay day, went to draw some cash and account was empty. Contacted bank and they said that my employer must have withdrawn the money from my account because they had know idea where my money was. The convo got pretty heated from that point, as not only had they lost my money, they were seemingly admitting that they were giving access to withdraw money from my account to any old mug.
Took me over 10days to get my money back. No apology, no compensation, no explanation. If the tables were turned, and it was me stealing/losing their money, they'd take the shirt off my back.
28 Aug 2015 17:02:29
Yes I think so, and I was watching some of the videos on the huge explosions that have happened over the last 18 months. ie ukraine, yemen, tainjinn. and obviously the info we know on nukes or dirty bombs that we have been taught is years old (fallout, radiation)
so I was thinking that science and tech have evolved that it can be miniaturised and controlled a lot better!
Ed033, could be someone is/has lost some control and others or new players are trying to push in?
Read discussionYes I think so, and I was watching some of the videos on the huge explosions that have happened over the last 18 months. ie ukraine, yemen, tainjinn. and obviously the info we know on nukes or dirty bombs that we have been taught is years old (fallout, radiation)
so I was thinking that science and tech have evolved that it can be miniaturised and controlled a lot better!
Ed033, could be someone is/has lost some control and others or new players are trying to push in?
28 Aug 2015 16:31:12
Thanks for the quick response and advice, Ed. Really appreciate it.
On the second call I made, they said there was a note on my account and the first call had been flagged so that's at least something . But they also said they had contacted me by telephone on the 24th with an explanation, which is complete BS.
I will write something up over the weekend and post it Monday. Guess this is going to be a pretty drawn out process. The thing that winds me up most is that I haven't banked with these *ad expletive* for about 15 years but they still have the ability to pronounce me dead. I don't really understand how this can happen? surely is more complicated than ticking a wrong box to seemingly wipe someone's life out?
Thanks again, mate.
Read discussionThanks for the quick response and advice, Ed. Really appreciate it.
On the second call I made, they said there was a note on my account and the first call had been flagged so that's at least something . But they also said they had contacted me by telephone on the 24th with an explanation, which is complete BS.
I will write something up over the weekend and post it Monday. Guess this is going to be a pretty drawn out process. The thing that winds me up most is that I haven't banked with these *ad expletive* for about 15 years but they still have the ability to pronounce me dead. I don't really understand how this can happen? surely is more complicated than ticking a wrong box to seemingly wipe someone's life out?
Thanks again, mate.
28 Aug 2015 17:08:06
and thank TTTS for posting this as I read it last night. makes you think what's next
And KimPhilby, you could be right on the low yield device or even you could call it now controlled yield?
Read discussionand thank TTTS for posting this as I read it last night. makes you think what's next
And KimPhilby, you could be right on the low yield device or even you could call it now controlled yield?
27 Aug 2015 20:18:44
I remember reading somewhere that so many devices were lost or unaccounted for, so could there maybe have been something going down and it has went bad?
it all seems so coincidental that stock markets have been so volatile there as well.
Read discussionI remember reading somewhere that so many devices were lost or unaccounted for, so could there maybe have been something going down and it has went bad?
it all seems so coincidental that stock markets have been so volatile there as well.
27 Aug 2015 19:11:47
Hey Jase, I'm glad for your questions as discussion is necessary for one to refine their theories and supporting arguments. I'll cover the part of me having a few common believes with the masons in another post, as I feel it would only cause me to deviate from the current subject.
The reason I place an emphasis on the equinoxes and solstices is the macrocosm-microcosm relationship, I often repeat. Although this is two-way relationship, a necessity for the cocreation theory, my attempt to order everything in relation to their energies resulted in the following chain. Thus from most energetic to least they would be: the universe, major galaxies, our galaxy, major star complexes (constellations), our star, major planets, our planet, our natural satellites.
If we accept this "hierarchy" based on energy/scale as valid then one can see that the phases of the moon, although important, are not as important as the sun-earth relationship and the cycles stemming from it.
In regards to the artificiality and nonsensical nature of the calendars we are conditioned to structure our lives around, you have identified something very relevant. Islamic and Judaic calendars had, in the case of the former, a lunar calendar running in parallel with a solar one. As I have already hinted above, I do not disregard the importance of the moon in regards to the universal flow of energy and its effects on our planets and our resonant frequencies.
However one has to take into account what the primary function of the moon is i.e. water cycle regulation. The moon dictates the tides and the ebbs (ebb is from googles translation).
What follows might be a stretch for some but, water as an element is correlated to emotions. It's counter element, fire/plasma/light is correlated to will/logic/logos. Even though we know we should be in tune with our emotions they should not be our only compass, for one can be elated with the tides but swept with the ebbs. That is why the structure I mention albeit taking the phases of our satellite into account, places it in what I perceive to be its proper position.
Read discussionHey Jase, I'm glad for your questions as discussion is necessary for one to refine their theories and supporting arguments. I'll cover the part of me having a few common believes with the masons in another post, as I feel it would only cause me to deviate from the current subject.
The reason I place an emphasis on the equinoxes and solstices is the macrocosm-microcosm relationship, I often repeat. Although this is two-way relationship, a necessity for the cocreation theory, my attempt to order everything in relation to their energies resulted in the following chain. Thus from most energetic to least they would be: the universe, major galaxies, our galaxy, major star complexes (constellations), our star, major planets, our planet, our natural satellites.
If we accept this "hierarchy" based on energy/scale as valid then one can see that the phases of the moon, although important, are not as important as the sun-earth relationship and the cycles stemming from it.
In regards to the artificiality and nonsensical nature of the calendars we are conditioned to structure our lives around, you have identified something very relevant. Islamic and Judaic calendars had, in the case of the former, a lunar calendar running in parallel with a solar one. As I have already hinted above, I do not disregard the importance of the moon in regards to the universal flow of energy and its effects on our planets and our resonant frequencies.
However one has to take into account what the primary function of the moon is i.e. water cycle regulation. The moon dictates the tides and the ebbs (ebb is from googles translation).
What follows might be a stretch for some but, water as an element is correlated to emotions. It's counter element, fire/plasma/light is correlated to will/logic/logos. Even though we know we should be in tune with our emotions they should not be our only compass, for one can be elated with the tides but swept with the ebbs. That is why the structure I mention albeit taking the phases of our satellite into account, places it in what I perceive to be its proper position.
27 Aug 2015 17:23:30
Low yield tactical device?
In a suitcase?
Read discussionLow yield tactical device?
In a suitcase?
27 Aug 2015 04:02:49
Im really not sure on this one Ed, thanks for your input BTW, as many have said before on this site, I am not a coincidence theorist, and if something does happen next month then it will definitely be no coincidence to what has been predicted. I have a very strange feeling about this date, after everything I have looked into regarding this, and also things I have noticed myself since then, such as the sheer amount of "Apocalypse" propaganda being spread is crazy.
I could probably name 20 TV shows, Films, or Songs that fit into this genre from the past 5 years (more so recently, I have also noticed) Also to completely disregard religious texts is very naive in my opinion, they have as much validity as any piece of work written by so called modern day "philosophers" or "wise men" so to speak. If you truly believe that these elitists are bringing in an "apocalypse" to follow prophecy etc. then surely you can believe that the Bible, that predicted a lot of things that are happening now, (Mark of the beast, increase in earthquakes and extreme weather, and information being transmitted "to and fro" with ease- all predictions from the Bible regarding the "End Times", must have some validity, as also many other predictions from the Bible have also come true (some even to the exact date- regarding the messiahs birth date)
Read discussionIm really not sure on this one Ed, thanks for your input BTW, as many have said before on this site, I am not a coincidence theorist, and if something does happen next month then it will definitely be no coincidence to what has been predicted. I have a very strange feeling about this date, after everything I have looked into regarding this, and also things I have noticed myself since then, such as the sheer amount of "Apocalypse" propaganda being spread is crazy.
I could probably name 20 TV shows, Films, or Songs that fit into this genre from the past 5 years (more so recently, I have also noticed) Also to completely disregard religious texts is very naive in my opinion, they have as much validity as any piece of work written by so called modern day "philosophers" or "wise men" so to speak. If you truly believe that these elitists are bringing in an "apocalypse" to follow prophecy etc. then surely you can believe that the Bible, that predicted a lot of things that are happening now, (Mark of the beast, increase in earthquakes and extreme weather, and information being transmitted "to and fro" with ease- all predictions from the Bible regarding the "End Times", must have some validity, as also many other predictions from the Bible have also come true (some even to the exact date- regarding the messiahs birth date)
27 Aug 2015 02:32:59
Also zari, why do you celebrate the equinoxs? With all due respect, I thought Sun worship, and astrological worship (saturn etc. ) is primarily an elitist thesis? I don't claim to know much about this subject, but I know enough to understand that this "Saturnalia" and "Sun Worship" along with worship of the "Stars" is an "elite" viewpoint dating back millenia. Now obviously just because its elitist it doesn't mean it has no basis, but I find it curious that you hold the same beliefs as many you claim to hate? Please don't take this as an attack BTW as I only want to learn of your viewpoints on this subject.
Read discussionAlso zari, why do you celebrate the equinoxs? With all due respect, I thought Sun worship, and astrological worship (saturn etc. ) is primarily an elitist thesis? I don't claim to know much about this subject, but I know enough to understand that this "Saturnalia" and "Sun Worship" along with worship of the "Stars" is an "elite" viewpoint dating back millenia. Now obviously just because its elitist it doesn't mean it has no basis, but I find it curious that you hold the same beliefs as many you claim to hate? Please don't take this as an attack BTW as I only want to learn of your viewpoints on this subject.
27 Aug 2015 01:27:04
Sorry to disagree zari, as normally all your points are very rational and I can get on board with. However this particular topic, is of some interest to me and I don't think you have done the research to validate your argument. Equinoxes and planetary alignments have no consequence to this theory, the only astronomical event to take into the equation is the four blood moons, which is mentioned throughout the Bible and as far as I am aware the Quran. These events are falling on the Jewish festival of Tabernacle and is relevant in the Jewish and Christian "rapture" prophesy. Again I am not saying I am sure anything will happen on the 23rd of next month. However, out of all the "end of days" stories we have heard throughout the last 20 years, this one seems to have something behind it. If you have more information on this "event" or date then please share. Thanks Jase
Read discussionSorry to disagree zari, as normally all your points are very rational and I can get on board with. However this particular topic, is of some interest to me and I don't think you have done the research to validate your argument. Equinoxes and planetary alignments have no consequence to this theory, the only astronomical event to take into the equation is the four blood moons, which is mentioned throughout the Bible and as far as I am aware the Quran. These events are falling on the Jewish festival of Tabernacle and is relevant in the Jewish and Christian "rapture" prophesy. Again I am not saying I am sure anything will happen on the 23rd of next month. However, out of all the "end of days" stories we have heard throughout the last 20 years, this one seems to have something behind it. If you have more information on this "event" or date then please share. Thanks Jase
26 Aug 2015 20:06:23
I though I'd see if anything similar to what I suggest has been developed and employed in battle and I stumbled on to this
Russia Unveils Top 5 Most Effective Electronic Warfare Systems
https://tinyurl.com/qemkg5a
Read discussionI though I'd see if anything similar to what I suggest has been developed and employed in battle and I stumbled on to this
Russia Unveils Top 5 Most Effective Electronic Warfare Systems
https://tinyurl.com/qemkg5a
26 Aug 2015 12:42:11
I apologize for how rash and abrupt this will read, but I wrote a much longer version which got lost with the accidental hit of the backspace key. I would be happy to expand on these if anyone wants me to.
The date mentioned is the date of the autumnal equinox. This is a yearly phenomenon, as there are two equinoxes and two solstices each year, and I am not aware of any major alignments or any major changes in the celestial background that would place any particular significance to this one.
Additionally, as I choose light over shade, I celebrate the spring equinox and summer solstice over their counterparts. I use the term shade as the sun is always shinning. Our planet just keeps turning which places us in the shade for a few hours a day.
On the matter of "ascension" which as far as I currently perceive is simply the application of the phenomenon of electron ionization to a larger scale, to which it does not apply as such. Electron ionization is the process by which an electron absorbs available energy from its environment, using it to jump to a higher orbit. If and when that happens said electron emits a photon.
This has been likened to the halo attributed to saints in religious paintings and a theory has been developed which suggests the transformation of carbon 12 (6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons), the fundamental structure in all carbon based organisms, to a non-existent but unstable carbon 7. This would satisfy the requirements for the absorption of energy and photon emission but fails to account for the disharmony it expresses, as nature evidently operates through balance and perpetuity.
I subscribe to the theory of conscious cocreation, whereby our minds are transceivers permanently existing in a quantum state and thus employing quantum potential to project the inwardly to the outwardly. In simpler words we create with our thoughts and as such should pay attention to where we shift and apply our focus.
The point where we move towards the shortest day and longest night of the year is not something we should be focusing on, especially with any ominous expectations.
Read discussionI apologize for how rash and abrupt this will read, but I wrote a much longer version which got lost with the accidental hit of the backspace key. I would be happy to expand on these if anyone wants me to.
The date mentioned is the date of the autumnal equinox. This is a yearly phenomenon, as there are two equinoxes and two solstices each year, and I am not aware of any major alignments or any major changes in the celestial background that would place any particular significance to this one.
Additionally, as I choose light over shade, I celebrate the spring equinox and summer solstice over their counterparts. I use the term shade as the sun is always shinning. Our planet just keeps turning which places us in the shade for a few hours a day.
On the matter of "ascension" which as far as I currently perceive is simply the application of the phenomenon of electron ionization to a larger scale, to which it does not apply as such. Electron ionization is the process by which an electron absorbs available energy from its environment, using it to jump to a higher orbit. If and when that happens said electron emits a photon.
This has been likened to the halo attributed to saints in religious paintings and a theory has been developed which suggests the transformation of carbon 12 (6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons), the fundamental structure in all carbon based organisms, to a non-existent but unstable carbon 7. This would satisfy the requirements for the absorption of energy and photon emission but fails to account for the disharmony it expresses, as nature evidently operates through balance and perpetuity.
I subscribe to the theory of conscious cocreation, whereby our minds are transceivers permanently existing in a quantum state and thus employing quantum potential to project the inwardly to the outwardly. In simpler words we create with our thoughts and as such should pay attention to where we shift and apply our focus.
The point where we move towards the shortest day and longest night of the year is not something we should be focusing on, especially with any ominous expectations.
26 Aug 2015 06:19:56
I'd say there's a much more evidence to suggest nothing will happen Jase. The fact this is the billionth (exaggerated statistic) time, the end of the world has been predicted, and each time videos have been created showing "compelling" evidence to back up the claims, says to me its extremely unlikely.
And I'd struggle to put any value in the thoughts of a Christian, who is somehow the first person in history, to successfully decipher the rapture, and yet isn't well known or successful enough to have a greater platform than Youtube. Granted you can reach a lot of people, but only once something goes viral, and the ramblings of a Christian about the end of the world seems like something most people would skip over.
I would think your dream would have very little to do with anything as well mate. Most likely due to the time you've spent thinking about the topic, and your subconscious has brought everything to the fore, when you've reached REM sleep.
I'd love to hear Zari's thoughts of this ascending theory, as I know he is quite in tune spiritually.
Read discussionI'd say there's a much more evidence to suggest nothing will happen Jase. The fact this is the billionth (exaggerated statistic) time, the end of the world has been predicted, and each time videos have been created showing "compelling" evidence to back up the claims, says to me its extremely unlikely.
And I'd struggle to put any value in the thoughts of a Christian, who is somehow the first person in history, to successfully decipher the rapture, and yet isn't well known or successful enough to have a greater platform than Youtube. Granted you can reach a lot of people, but only once something goes viral, and the ramblings of a Christian about the end of the world seems like something most people would skip over.
I would think your dream would have very little to do with anything as well mate. Most likely due to the time you've spent thinking about the topic, and your subconscious has brought everything to the fore, when you've reached REM sleep.
I'd love to hear Zari's thoughts of this ascending theory, as I know he is quite in tune spiritually.
26 Aug 2015 01:06:46
I'd assume once these dates become public and people start talking about something happening, if it was planned, it wouldn't be hard to simply change the date of the planned event.
First I heard of September having significance, was when I met up with a friend, a few months ago, who is extremely spiritual. Not religious. She said in September of this year, a third if the worlds population will be ascending into the fifth dimension. Can't say I put heaps of value into the suggestion, but you never know, I guess.
Read discussionI'd assume once these dates become public and people start talking about something happening, if it was planned, it wouldn't be hard to simply change the date of the planned event.
First I heard of September having significance, was when I met up with a friend, a few months ago, who is extremely spiritual. Not religious. She said in September of this year, a third if the worlds population will be ascending into the fifth dimension. Can't say I put heaps of value into the suggestion, but you never know, I guess.