Sorry Ed007, but I'm with Roddy on this one. Please allow me to explain why.
I was in a similar situation once. A friend was presenting me with evidence regarding a conspiracy that I didn't want to contemplate. You see, I was comfortably situated on ruins, nails and broken glass, can you blame me? Anyway, long story short I pocked my eyes out and the rest is just an unpleasant memory.
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It's not just oil Kim. The British military has some state of the art equipment in Cyprus (on the Trodos mountain range, next to Kykkos monastery) from where they monitor practically every long range wireless transmission in the area. I am not even going to go into energetic centers, leylines etc.
I agree on the rest and yes, they will always meddle. The point of being here though, among other things, is to make people aware of the situation so they atleast put up a fight.
zari
Read discussionI agree on the rest and yes, they will always meddle. The point of being here though, among other things, is to make people aware of the situation so they atleast put up a fight.
zari
Just as a follow on but does this driver look like he is ‘totally unresponsive’ as Roddy describes?

Now let’s look at some of those eyewitness statements.
When the incident initially happened it was reported that the ‘Lorry out of control for 300 metres, mounted pavement at 70mph’ here and ‘careered out of control at speed’ here, not to mention ‘There was a bin lorry screaming up the road at a crazy speed, and he carried on driving until it hit the hotel.’ as was reported here.
Sounds like absolute carnage!
Yet on Saturday 14th February we have this report clearly stating:
EXAMINATION OF ON-BOARD MONITORING EQUIPIMENT SHOWED THAT IT TRAVELLED JUST OVER 20 MPH AS THE TRAGEDY UNFOLDED.
That seems to totally contradict what was reported at the time, why did the MSM need to tell so many lies about what happened and why does the official version of events just not make any sense when you look closer at it?
It's cute that people are clicking disagree but nobody wants to try and answer any questions I'm asking in a civil manner. I'm loving the personal abuse though, it shows that some people are worried.
I wonder how many people have walked along Queen Street and noticed that all the bins, traffic lights etc are all weather beaten and old looking, are we meant to believe that the used the original smashed poles and bins which miraculously have all been put EXACTLY (to the millimetre) in the same spot as they were with no visible signs of them being replaced or been moved since they were initially fitted years ago. Why is there no damage to the pavements where these were ripped from the ground.
It's as if they were never hit by a bin lorry that was careering out of control at 70 mph, in fact there is no physical evidence on Queen St to suggest that a bin lorry careered out of control at 70 mph knocking pedestrians, poles, traffic lights and bins out of it's path as it screamed up the road at crazy speed.
Wouldn't the poles traffic lights are on stop a vehicle travelling at 20 mph that the on-board monitoring equipment has now proven the bin lorry was travelling at?
Read discussionNow let’s look at some of those eyewitness statements.
When the incident initially happened it was reported that the ‘Lorry out of control for 300 metres, mounted pavement at 70mph’ here and ‘careered out of control at speed’ here, not to mention ‘There was a bin lorry screaming up the road at a crazy speed, and he carried on driving until it hit the hotel.’ as was reported here.
Sounds like absolute carnage!
Yet on Saturday 14th February we have this report clearly stating:
EXAMINATION OF ON-BOARD MONITORING EQUIPIMENT SHOWED THAT IT TRAVELLED JUST OVER 20 MPH AS THE TRAGEDY UNFOLDED.
That seems to totally contradict what was reported at the time, why did the MSM need to tell so many lies about what happened and why does the official version of events just not make any sense when you look closer at it?
It's cute that people are clicking disagree but nobody wants to try and answer any questions I'm asking in a civil manner. I'm loving the personal abuse though, it shows that some people are worried.
I wonder how many people have walked along Queen Street and noticed that all the bins, traffic lights etc are all weather beaten and old looking, are we meant to believe that the used the original smashed poles and bins which miraculously have all been put EXACTLY (to the millimetre) in the same spot as they were with no visible signs of them being replaced or been moved since they were initially fitted years ago. Why is there no damage to the pavements where these were ripped from the ground.
It's as if they were never hit by a bin lorry that was careering out of control at 70 mph, in fact there is no physical evidence on Queen St to suggest that a bin lorry careered out of control at 70 mph knocking pedestrians, poles, traffic lights and bins out of it's path as it screamed up the road at crazy speed.
Wouldn't the poles traffic lights are on stop a vehicle travelling at 20 mph that the on-board monitoring equipment has now proven the bin lorry was travelling at?
Have a look at this picture from another angle:

Read discussionThe bin lorry is not on the taxi, just looks like it bcoz of the angle of the photograph. The fire service also cut the roof off the taxi, and by the looks of things that picture looks to have been taken while they where doing work on it ( there is clearly some1 inbetween the taxi and lorry) I'd love to hear why this is a conspiracy. What use would the 'elite' have causing this to happen. It's fascanating that there is people on here that cannot grasp that this was a genuine accident. No comment on the world war Z coincidence either. And the pictures uploaded are for your benefit, why haven't u uploaded the pic of the driver slumped over the wheel after it had crashed?!
Read discussionYeah it does seem to jive, the link seems plausible.
was just wondering if you guys had other stories about this too.
no problem franky, just sharing what I saw on fb and had nowhere to discuss it other than this site! heh.
whats your twitter name franky if you don't mind.
Kaizer
Read discussionwas just wondering if you guys had other stories about this too.
no problem franky, just sharing what I saw on fb and had nowhere to discuss it other than this site! heh.
whats your twitter name franky if you don't mind.
Kaizer
This is not a conspiracy but a terrible accident. I was there through my work, and I have read reports from senior officials and our own reports, this is just a terrible accident
Read discussionI have heard from him too recently, the story of the young lad who was fishing was strange. Have you heard it?
Read discussionHe literally just takes footage of the surrounding area and of the torn apart camp site. He could be just some paranoid bigfoot hunter, but he seemed genuinely distressed by it all.
Loved the video ed very odd some of those cases it has to be said, it has to be more than one thing imo.
I remember I paid a visit to a national park when I was on holiday when young and unless u have been there before it's easy to get lost, they are massive. But some of the cases are really odd for there to be no outside interference of something we don't know. Portals? Aliens? Bigfoot who knows, but summit wiered is going on.
I particularly found the green berets story interesting as they really are mainly for search and destroy I believe.
Read discussionLoved the video ed very odd some of those cases it has to be said, it has to be more than one thing imo.
I remember I paid a visit to a national park when I was on holiday when young and unless u have been there before it's easy to get lost, they are massive. But some of the cases are really odd for there to be no outside interference of something we don't know. Portals? Aliens? Bigfoot who knows, but summit wiered is going on.
I particularly found the green berets story interesting as they really are mainly for search and destroy I believe.
I was listening to a man called Bob Garrett who is claiming the government are not only watching him but threatening him to after he stumbled across a camp site that had been ripped to shreds and the people gone. After calling 911 and waiting hours for them to not show up he took some film footage and pics only for these government officials to show up and try and stitch him up for all sorts of law breaks. He has since got off with it because his lawyer claimed something called the good Samaritan act but the abuse and following has not stopped.
he has has had his Facebook account gone, his YouTube channel deleted and all sort and his computer seemingly hacked even after he unplugged the router they apparently reconnected wirelessly and deleted pics and footage.
I just can't see how they can get away with this? Although I can see how they can.
Read discussionhe has has had his Facebook account gone, his YouTube channel deleted and all sort and his computer seemingly hacked even after he unplugged the router they apparently reconnected wirelessly and deleted pics and footage.
I just can't see how they can get away with this? Although I can see how they can.
Thanks ed, really interesting to say the least.
Read discussionSuch as ed? Do u believe they could be real? I must admit I'm 50/50 on the subject.
Read discussion15 Feb 2015 13:34:33
Its a geopolitically important strategic region, always has been always will. It was the silk and spice trade, now its oil, in the future it will be something else. Someone will always meddle.
Same with Greece. Take 1945 for example. The Greek communist resistance tried to take over, install a pro soviet regime which would allow stalin a warm water port in the Mediterranean, achieving a dream going back to Peter and Catherine and showing he can out achieve the czars just as he had in European expansion.
The Greek nationalist resistance not wanting to go communist appealed for help and Churchill in one of his last acts as prime minister committed British troops to the Greek civil war.
Someone will always meddle. That's what the European project is. Its what its always about. Control.
Kim Philby
Read discussionIts a geopolitically important strategic region, always has been always will. It was the silk and spice trade, now its oil, in the future it will be something else. Someone will always meddle.
Same with Greece. Take 1945 for example. The Greek communist resistance tried to take over, install a pro soviet regime which would allow stalin a warm water port in the Mediterranean, achieving a dream going back to Peter and Catherine and showing he can out achieve the czars just as he had in European expansion.
The Greek nationalist resistance not wanting to go communist appealed for help and Churchill in one of his last acts as prime minister committed British troops to the Greek civil war.
Someone will always meddle. That's what the European project is. Its what its always about. Control.
Kim Philby
15 Feb 2015 13:27:04
In order to have independent news you need to have independent distributers.
The BBC is subjective to the licence and the money generated and as that is controlled by the government they dictate the agenda.
In Russia all tv stations are state owned and the state dictates the agenda. Some of you would be shocked at the standard of reporting.
In the supposed land of the free the stations are all owned by media barons who trade what they report in concession for advertising revenues because profit is more important than truth.
The last bastion of truly independent reporting is the internet and this is becoming marginalised as more sell out their principles to accept advertising to keep their sites afloat.
Kim Philby
Read discussionIn order to have independent news you need to have independent distributers.
The BBC is subjective to the licence and the money generated and as that is controlled by the government they dictate the agenda.
In Russia all tv stations are state owned and the state dictates the agenda. Some of you would be shocked at the standard of reporting.
In the supposed land of the free the stations are all owned by media barons who trade what they report in concession for advertising revenues because profit is more important than truth.
The last bastion of truly independent reporting is the internet and this is becoming marginalised as more sell out their principles to accept advertising to keep their sites afloat.
Kim Philby
Dugg look in search engine on here, it will give you our thoughts or google her and see what you think.
Read discussionAnd the driver has absolutely no recollection of what happened. Interestingly something similar happened in Bath last week when a lorry went out of control and I think killed 4 people but surely that is just an accident/coincidence.
Read discussionI agree Kim. On a post further down the page, the Tsipras/Sipras one, I state that I do think that Russia is part of the establishment. As such I would not expect much to change because of such an agreement per se. If it's signed that is, seeing as the Cypriot president seems to fall ill whenever it's time for him to deliver on his promises.
If the agreement is signed though, in the short-term, the people of middle earth could perhaps enjoy some ephemeral peace. It's been about 3000 years of oppressor after oppressor - and reform after reform for them.
One wonders if some time off could do them, and in extension the world, wonders.
zari
Read discussionIf the agreement is signed though, in the short-term, the people of middle earth could perhaps enjoy some ephemeral peace. It's been about 3000 years of oppressor after oppressor - and reform after reform for them.
One wonders if some time off could do them, and in extension the world, wonders.
zari
Yeah I seen that a few weeks ago, the bbc are supposedly the flagship of international journalism, it just proves they are nothing more than a propaganda arm of the establishment.
Read discussion13 Feb 2015 14:20:12
Russia's been after a warm water port and access to the Mediterranean for 200 years. Its always been British foreign policy to thwart this ambition, cf the Crimean war.
Putin may be on the verge of achieving what the czars and the Bolsheviks failed to achieve.
But I wouldn't go thinking he was any kind of an ally. You may be swapping one lot of deceitful overlords for someone far worse.
Interesting last point. The Turks I can see getting up to that, this turn of events goes against them and their getting bored of oppressing their own.
Kim Philby
Read discussionRussia's been after a warm water port and access to the Mediterranean for 200 years. Its always been British foreign policy to thwart this ambition, cf the Crimean war.
Putin may be on the verge of achieving what the czars and the Bolsheviks failed to achieve.
But I wouldn't go thinking he was any kind of an ally. You may be swapping one lot of deceitful overlords for someone far worse.
Interesting last point. The Turks I can see getting up to that, this turn of events goes against them and their getting bored of oppressing their own.
Kim Philby
I haven't. What's the story with her?
Dugg
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