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First of all, I do not see him as the antichrist. That is a conditioned term that carries guilt, fear and subordination. In my opinion, a silly thing to say.

I see him as a just another establishment demagogue who is supposedly voicing the opinions of those on the fringes.
Since the fringes have become bigger than the "mains", the establishment is promoting such people in every country of the world to reel people back in. Something which is just not going to happen.

I am a sovereign who will not be ruled. The society I want to be part of is not controlled by a centralized power structure, but progresses through the collective efforts of all those who choose to be part of it.
zari

Because icke holds court with farage over joining europe does not mean he agrees with ukip policies and the way the go about it, as for people who sponge of the country, if ukip included the monarchy and lords/peers and certain mp's then you can count me in.

No that's not UKIP at all! If you actually read their policies, they only say they want to chuck out people who come to the UK to sponge of the state and use our NHS via health tourism. How is it fair that us taxpayers pay for the Latvian who probably killed Alice Gross to have care on our NHS? How was he even allowed in the country? Many more cases like this, that's what UKIP is against. Not people who contribute. Read their policies!

And one more thing - lots of people on here seem to hold Icke and Jones in high regard - Fararge has been guests on their respected shows before exposing the EU. So if he's good enough for them, why do you all see him as some antichrist?

24 Sep 2014 21:31:26
Its their methods. Its all very well saying throw out immigrants and leave the eu, but if that doesn't solve the problem then what?

I'm not British, I wasn't born here, I don't have British citizenship, I have citizenship of an EU country and reside in this country because of this. I work in this country, I pay taxes in this country, one of my children was born in this country. But ukip would throw me out? I contribute more to this country than some of the indigenous population.

Certain parties always pop up in times of economic difficulty and target minorities.

Just because one shares a few specific views with someone else it does not mean they would want to be ruled by that someone.
zari

Why do you despise what UKIP stand for? Surely controlling immigration, leaving the EU (or NWO, as it is really known) and devolving powers is what we should do? I mean, it certainly corroborates with what the majority of you seem to want on here.

Besh

Thanks RM8.

Ryan.

I had a feeling there was something fishy going on, I think someone on here pointed out that it should not of been a anonymous vote, too easy to fix

Thanks Ryan when I 1st watched the 9/11 clip I had no clue. After what Ed said I watched a few videos I found this one helpful.

http://youtu.be/iiL0u8j3qSo

23 Sep 2014 20:58:27
Reading that ed my first thought was Babylon 5 and the Keepers, parasitic lifeforms that attach to a host and control their actions, probably way off beam, but maybe these rituals open up the host person allowing the parasite lifeform in?

Mort

Fascinating video Ed033 thanks for sharing.

Ryan.

23 Sep 2014 21:18:29
Not knowing him personally its hard to say on his motivations. Maybe someone has some dirt. Maybe, being of an older generation, he thinks its his duty. Certainly some of these pro establishment media types are used by the establishment to spin or push certain agendas.

Kim Philby

Interesting info KP

Mort

RM8, I'm a bit behind the curve on remote viewing, and I have been watching a few videos trying to understand it better. This one helped. It's only 10 minutes long and well worth checking out.

Ryan.

http://youtu.be/EUZnD_wpEow

No worries edd and there is something that makes me shiver about the monarchy (my gut feeling again)whether its alien I am unsure but the sadistic sacrifice /pedophilia culture I would bet on it.

cheers edd (y)

Fair point edd maybe the question should have been worded better? because icke firmly believes to this day that the monarchy have or are alien.

{Ed033's Note - This is about 1 guy (Courtney Brown, who's a professor) who knows 2 of the best known remote viewers and from time to time gives them a target to remote view as an experiment. Then Courtney Brown goes on talk radio in an attempt to get people to buy the DVDs of the remote viewing to pay the remote viewers for their time.

According to Courtney Brown, Agents go on various web sites/social media to ruin the reputation of Courtney Brown and his remote viewing experiments. These agents apparently succeed as he doesn't sell many DVDs which makes it difficult for Courtney Brown to fund further remote viewing experiments.

Profile fits dimberly then kim.

Did you know the 12 Hasselblad cameras used on the moon were left there. Only the film magazines were brought back.

So how did they protect the film from the effects of radiation, and come back with photos a professional photographer would be proud of?

Ryan.