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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 15:42
Maybe a lucky few that don't get eaten grow to be huge ed, it is possible.

Like I said the thought the one they saw on camera could be over 110ft lol.

plus there is two species of large squid (that we know of) Colossal and Giant, maybe one of them grows too big to be preyed on.

Jk92 (what the hell is no name on about lol)
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 15:39
If your aware that dogs are hunters and i'm using one hunter as a anology for another why are you debating that their scavengers? are you purposely pedantic or just like to derail debates so you feel like you have won? its extremly obvious i'm using dogs as a example because some of their prey can be one species but vary in size so much they will hunt one type but mnot the other, so to state that a dog will never hunt a cat because some are bigger is false as some are smaller, you have NO idea what sizes squid are so to assert that because a species whos size you know (whale )hunts them that another species (shark) can't be hunted by them is very starnge logic, its guess work dressed as fact
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 15:12
So their persons for suggesting a shark was eaten by a bigger sahark as we know happens, why? its the most obvious answer
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 14:13
Interviews with locals in Attabad portray a much different scenario to the one we were given by the reliable, honest and non agenda driven mainstream media, who wouldn't dream of misleading us because they have our best interests at heart, and only want to give us the news, the whole news and nothing but the news, so help their ratings.

Ryan.
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 14:08
That's like saying that dogs chase cats so no cat can chase a dog it's backward logic, there could be a species of squid that sperm whales avoid espically as one was caught on cam that was so big and could be relatively small compared to other squid, I'm not sure why the explanation of another bigger shark is seen as in correct it's a obvious answer, we know sharks eat smaller sharks so makes sense
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 13:16
What was the attack in Pakistan?

I'm not sure, you'd need some pretty impressive clearance to get hold of that kind of inside info. so, does not knowing automatically mean it was like they said on the news?

Not sure I follow your logic there. Both I and Franky explained our thought process clearly Imo.

Harold
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 11:55
There is evidence of it within nature too. The golden ratio is believed to be involved in 'intelligent design' throughout the world, from the ratio of bee in a hive to the size and spacing on a Nautilus shell.
Geordiesteve
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Reply · Not Registered · 11 Jun 2014 11:55
What was the attack in Pakistan all about then? Surely they wouldn't have lost a helicopter if they faked it, ahh, wait, I seen that on the news so that helicopter was a hologram/missile I guess

AP
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Jun 2014 23:45
The thing is though ed, even if one did grow big enough to kill a sperm whale. how would we ever know, too deep and a lot of animals down there to eat up the evidence.

JK92
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Jun 2014 22:12
Probably just trying to get publicity ed.

Giant/Colossal squid can apparently grow over 60ft, I saw a video where they think one the caught on camera could be 110ft! incredible if true. fascinating creatures, that we hardly know anything about.

JK92.
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Jun 2014 22:04
They only eat their liver anyway ed. and it also said that an Orcas temperature is different to that of the tag, they think it was killed by something that isn't a mammal.

maybe a giants squid?

JK92
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Jun 2014 19:14
No worries Harold mate. You mak a fair point.
Franky, kind of agree with you to a certain extent. But with this topic, I really do need evidence of aliens making saturns rings before I'll give it the time of day. Surely no ones gut instinct is "aliens made the rings of Saturn"?
And you mention how evidence can be manipulated, if that's the case, so can conspiracy evidence. So if that's your train of thought, you must apply it to all evidence from every source.
I do get what your trying to say, but gut instinct can also be very misleading. Proper solid evidence is the best way we have of determining anything.

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

Ps! I do know that yes, evidence can be and has been manipulated Franky mate, So not trying to be funny mate. I'm more on about the topic in question!
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Reply · frankyscouser · 10 Jun 2014 19:06
I think our gut instinct is underrated, and good points H your mate in work will prob be the type who gets jury service in the future.
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Reply · Not Registered · 10 Jun 2014 17:55
Franky good point on evidence, that really struck a cord with me. I was flabbergasted in work the other day when a (usually sensible) colleague was arguing that you can't prosecute Saville and others because there's no direct evidence, its just one word against another! I tried explaining that that's what the independant jury is there for and that if you take that stance many serious crimes would go unpunished.

On a slightly different note, one thing that grates on me is people who won't believe anything but the official version of 9/11 until they've been told exactly what did happen, who did it, how they did it etc. - trouble is a mere mortal will never be privy to such info no matter how much research they do. Then they try to laugh it off when you say you don't know or that there was probably technology used that most folk can't even comprehend. The more pertinent questions being 1) why does the official version not tie up? and 2) why would TPTB need to manufacture the story?

Final point on evidence is the files that get locked down by intelligence agencies for 'national security' reasons for up to 100 years. All in our interest of course! Just goes to show that unfortunately we cannot rely on evidence for many reasons - like you said it can be tampered with, lost, hidden or even never available in the first place.

Harold

P. s. Not aimed at Jay's post more a general view on the value of evidence
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Reply · frankyscouser · 10 Jun 2014 17:17
Herbie I agree there are religious extremists who are thankfully are the minority the real terrorists are the developed nations who have been invading countries and stealing natural resources for hundreds of years, can anyone tell me the last time these middle east countries have invaded anywhere in Europe? we should be scared of what they can do to us but we have colonised them countries pre victoria times, sorry I do not buy what they are trying to tell me on mainstream news.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 10 Jun 2014 17:04
Bin laden died many years ago in my opinion, not going to go in to detail why because I have wrote my views many times, to people who disagree check out why it was more beneficial to think he was alive.
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Reply · HERBIE · 10 Jun 2014 16:03
I see where your coming from Franky and your right about the Propaganda machine, that will always be pushed to promote fear but, there is a real war on terrorism, its just a pity some cannot see that the silent terrorists are feeding the the violent terrorists.
Kinda works both ways.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 10 Jun 2014 16:03
I have a big problem with people wanting evidence with everything, if we went with our gut instinct more often the world would be a lot more optimistic , the thing with evidence it can be manipulated, until 4/5 years ago I would say 40% of the country thought Hillsborough was not a cover up and if they can try cover up stuff like that do you really think they would tell the people that for a example that there are other species running this planet?nope we would want that ugly word evidence.
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