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Reply · Not Registered · 13 Jun 2014 20:05
Can I categorically state there is no sectarianism on the YES side. The bigoted nonsense is coming from the no campaign. Discrimination is rife in the British state, Most right wing British nationalists in Scotland tend to be from the loyalist/orange communities!
An independent Scotland would be all inclusive with a written constitution, fairness for everyone. This will be the beginning of a new era for Scotland with the hatred and divisions that the British state has orchestrated for hundreds of years gone!
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Reply · frankyscouser · 13 Jun 2014 17:06
Within the next ten years I reckon martial law will be declared, why?simple answer is America is bankrupt, middle class people are losing there homes and things will get a hell of a lot worse and like I have mentioned many times homeland security (police) have bought 20 years worth of arms also add the fema camps, they are prepared.
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Reply · Adam · 13 Jun 2014 16:26
Thank you for your replies.

I did question how it ties in with conspiracy, but I posted anyway since this is a great site full of thinkers who may have some useful info.

That said, I do wonder if perhaps there is a case of miss-info related to exercise in general. Some people seem adamant that jogging is bad for you and yet it is generally considered a healthy activity.
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Reply · Not Registered · 13 Jun 2014 15:57
Adam, most athletes don't jog anymore. They use a 3-speed variety routine (walk/jog/sprint), interchanging between them continuously and without a fixed sequence.

Ed001, I don't know of any conspiracy involving jogging but I do know one about shoes. I am only writing this as you mentioned knee problems in your reply to Adam.

The majority of shoe sole materials (wood, rubber etc. ) are natural insulators. In this way, wearing shoes keeps people from being electromagnetically grounded. If one is not regularly grounded, then the charge in their body increases. Other than making people extra irritable and irritating, this also results in the body becoming an excellent conductor to all the disharmonious and thus hazardous frequencies emitted by commercial electronics.

Additionally, they also impede the body from moving as designed. Shoes begin by deforming the feet. Furthermore, during walking or running they place extra pressure on the knee joints, as they restrict the movement of the ankle joints.
With the knee cartilage having to counterbalance the extra force, the body compensates by attempting to alleviate some of the weight above the knee joint. It does so by moving upper body weight off the axis of gravity. This causes the lower-spine to bend backwards, producing lower back problems and pain. Taller shoe heels mean more lower back problems.
Eventually the higher-spine/neck bends forwards trying to maintain the head on the gravity axis.
zari
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Reply · Not Registered · 13 Jun 2014 15:46
Yes Harold the collapses happened far too quickly. Especially WTC2. I think they got the demolition (or dustification) sequence wrong. The collapses were exactly 30 minutes apart. I think they brought them down out of sequence by mistake.

Similarly with WTC7, it was reported collapsed live on TV by Jane Standley of the BBC while it was behind her in the background. And didn’t ‘collapse’ for a further 26 minutes.

As for today's question, the NIST report says that the 'planes' (Boeing 767-200's) hit the towers at 410kts and 510kts. Whatever about the first number being debatable, it is considered impossible by many pilots and aviation experts that a 767-200 could achieve 510kts at below 1000ft altitude, and certainly structural failure would occur long before that anyway.

I don’t know what hit the towers. It could have been a missile, or something else. I just don’t believe it was American 11 or United 175.

Ryan.
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Reply · frankyscouser · 13 Jun 2014 14:54
My rulebook?nah my thoughts, I am open minded on this subject on one hand Westminster are scared if Scotland goes independent which makes me think it might be better for the normal Scottish people then on the other hand a united uk that is against the establishment is a lot more powerful than a splintered one, its a tough call either way and I am english.
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Reply · Not Registered · 13 Jun 2014 13:08
But surely under your rulebook of the elite franky, they would love an in dependant Scotland as it is all part of divide and conquer? Already divide and conquer mentality in Scotland. On the 1 hand-people who march and celebrate the a man who wanted to rid the world of Catholics. The other- a religion that commits horrific child abuse and opposes gay and safe sex.

AP
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Reply · RoscoJEF · 13 Jun 2014 12:14
Alex salmond is more hated than Blair, Brown and Cameron in some parts of Scotland, and why I wonder?
I'm not a snp voter I was labour as I was brought up to vote them.

Luckily for Scotland theirs people from catholic and Protestant, celtic and rangers bypassing this vile hatred for the better good and hopefully unite after it. Shame the bigots from both side could ruin what could be a prosperous occasion for us all. Soar alba
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Reply · Not Registered · 13 Jun 2014 11:53
13 Jun 2014 12:32:55
He upset the wrong people, came to London, wasn't careful enough and the people he upset decided he was too much of a problem so solved the problem. As Stalin once said "death solves every problem. No man no problem". Someone was able to get close enough to poison him. Very likely the chap named in the investigation. And if I recall he was dosed several times.

This is why you should always stay on good terms with your former employers.

Kim Philby
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Reply · frankyscouser · 13 Jun 2014 10:14
Sorry guys for butting in but lenny you have nailed it on the head, forget what religion a certain leader is, the question remains DO YOU WANT OUT?normally I would yes get out of this money tax grabbing establishment but the more I think of it we need guys and girls like you, put it this way the Scottish and welsh and Irish to me have more in common with me than anyone down south (in general )to splinter that eventually we would lose that connection .
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Reply · Garbo · 13 Jun 2014 10:14
I used these and haven't heard back from them, great results. Cheers Ed.

Garbo
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Reply · Geordiesteve · 13 Jun 2014 08:53
Surely Kim they already are in a sense as your smart phone/web cam can be remotely hacked without your knowledge already.
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Reply · Geordiesteve · 13 Jun 2014 08:53
Do you feel that the declaration of martial law in the US is imminent Frankie, what indications and/or reasons would you cite?
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Reply · Not Registered · 13 Jun 2014 07:27
This is what's wrong with Scotland. Everyone thinks it's about the snp. AS can't be hated that bad if he's in power just now & looks likely to keeping being FM even if it's a no vote.  


The Orange order have nothing to do with Scots, same with the republican walks too. It all boils down to the old firm.  


It's hard to believe people of Scotland would rather claim to be Irish or have a Irish connection rather than being Scottish. Same with how people can march to celebrate & follow 'the Orange order'. A march that celebrates the death of Catholics from 100s of years ago when really their own wife mother or father friends etc are likely from or connected to a Catholic faith.


Would like to see the views if these people who attend both Orange order & republican walks saw a walk to celebrate the death of a s


Sorry for being the political side of things into this but it's really Scotland's biggest problem in both sides yes or no vote.


Lenny
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Reply · Not Registered · 13 Jun 2014 07:27
Being a controlled demolition, of sorts, I suppose they could have done it in any order, perhaps it was done in that order just to seem less staged? Less obvious?

I've always had a problem with the short periods of time between the collisions and collapses. As if such huge buildings could lose their structural integrity so quickly! Why did they do it that way? Well, the whole event from when it first came on the news to the aftermath of the 2nd tower falling took around and hour and a half, the length of a typical Hollywood movie. Just about perfect length of time to keep the public's concentration going IMO.

Harold
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Reply · Not Registered · 12 Jun 2014 23:45
13 Jun 2014 00:37:25
I imagine it happens far more than most people imagine. Very easy to arrange for people to have accidents, car crash due to mechanical failure, mugging gone wrong, small aircraft have such poor safety records, suicide, plenty of ways to remove someone who's a problem and make it look like a tragic incident.

Then there's plenty of people kept in line through blackmail. Nice little honey trap involving two hookers, a bag of coke, a hotel room and a hidden camera and bingo, you end up owning someone. Heck its how most intelligence assets are recruited. KGB were specialists. Look up swallows if your interested. As in the birds.

And as technology moves on so it gets easier. How long before the tvs from 1984 are fitted as standard?

Kim Philby
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Reply · Not Registered · 12 Jun 2014 21:12
Hated by who? the most bigoted and hated element in Scottish history! Scotland is a progressive country, not stuck in the past like the orange order who are an anachronism! This is not about the S. N. P, this is about Scotland being able to vote for self determination. Not having Tories ruling us anymore. P. S. Alex Salmond is a protestant!
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Reply · Not Registered · 12 Jun 2014 20:47
I think your wrong and the majority is on a no vote mate. Salmond is hated in many parts of Scotland especially amongst Protestants. As the SNP are against such things as the orange order. Someone bet 400k on a no vote the odds are heavily in favour of a no vote the bookies barely get it wrong. There will be no need for a false flag or a rig unless it's to favour Alex Salmond and the Yes Vote. I have nothing against the English I would rather stick together it's us the people who need to say no to the people at Holyrood & Westminster & take Britain back for the People!

RM8
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Reply · Not Registered · 12 Jun 2014 19:36
Its difficult to know where to begin with the OP so I won't bother. We've had many debates on the subject which can be found using the search function. I ask any person who believes the official version of 9/11 to watch 'september 11 - the new pearl harbour' on youtube as its a good, basic starting point to raising many questions. I always suggest this to doubters on here, including AP I believe? but am yet to get a response which suggests they don't watch it. I wonder why?

Harold
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Reply · frankyscouser · 12 Jun 2014 19:14
Cheers will bookmark it and see if anything interesting turns up.

http://www.forteantimes.com/
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