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Not same creature no but more like a cousin due to the habitat it lives in for example certain bears are similar but you can notice the difference.

There is a Keith Allen documentary about this conspiracy that is banned in this country, I will try to dig out a link so you can stream it, Allen before he done this documentary was a skeptic that this was a hit, now he has admitted he does not know what to think, will post the link tonight.

There is also a white fiat (small hatch back) leaving the scene/tunnel that has never been traced.
She was definately knocked off or even possibly still alive. I believe she knew too much and may have even been pregnant with a potential Muslim child in line to the throne.

Supasub

19 May 2014 09:22:51
Definitely a hit but I have a feeling it was outsourced by mi6 to give some level of deniability. Also you don't have the reputation for eliminating problems in this way.

I think there's 3 viable contenders: the French, Mossad, or ex KGB.

The French would have the advantage of operating on home territory making surveillance, the approach and the escape easier.

Mossad have a lot of problem eliminating experience and the chance to take out the son of a high profile arab, even as a secondary target would be appealing.

And in '97 there were plenty of ex KGB available for hire especially from Department V.

Kim Philby

19 May 2014 09:30:50
Do you think Yeti and Big Foot are the same creature or separate? They could have started from a common ancestor then evolved to fit habitat?

Kim Philby

19 May 2014 00:22:41
I know, I enjoy the bond films, especially Octopussy (worked in East Germany), View To A Kill (worked out that way), and the Living Daylights (spent time in Bratislava) we used to enjoy watching smuggled in copies. I even copied the hairstyle of the girl from the Living Daylights.

I think just use British actors for villains as you make better actors and the American mentality is to always be the hero.

As for the current trends its just interesting to see which way they are leaning, I expect it to be back to Russian villains soon.

Kim Philby

James Bond usually had a Russian baddie. In the late 90s Hollywood had a taste for English bad guys before 9/11 switched baddie-focus to the middle east. Who do you think the bas guys are in Chinese films?

Pablo

Cia funded propaganda

The PPI compensation market is big business, there's millions in commissions to be made off the billions (of taxpayer money given to the banks in 3 bailouts) in place to be claimed.

Interestingly the PPI payouts have been cited as making a significant contribution to the economy over the last 5+ years, helping to save the retail sector from the possible destruction that the recession may otherwise have caused.

Pablo

Cheers ed. interesting stuff indeed. looking forward to getting into this

gerrymcgin1888

Actually seen the kubric stuff. its thought provoking

gerrymcgin1888

Great find edd, funny how this does not make worldwide news, so people who find it hard to believe that there is no scientific proof then watch this.

Back in the 80s in east Slough there was an animal testing laboratory on the bath road. In the late 90s the site, laying empty, were demolished and a housing estate was built.

I was a child in the 80s but had an aunt who was in her late teens. She told me a story about the 'half-baked monkey'. It was well known to men who went fishing on the grand union camel, less than half a mile north of the Bath road and parallel to it, running east/west.

Only seen at night the monkey had glowing red eyes. It was a known and accepted legend due to the number of people whom had seen it.

Well, my aunt almost ran the monkey over in her car. She was driving on the bath road in the early hours on a Friday or Saturday night and was close to the laboratory site. The half-baked monkey ran out into the road in front of her. She slammed on the brakes and came to a halt. She stared at the monkey and the monkey stood in the road staring at her. She describes it as being chimp like, 3. 5ft tall, red eyes that glowed but there was something very different about its legs, they were more like a horse's rear legs in terms of their skeletal form. Kind of back to front.

The monkey ran off after a few seconds.

I no longer live in slough but grew up with some great stories. In the mid 70s at least 150 witnesses saw a large silver UFO land and then after 5 minutes take off from a park in north slough, in the middle of a sunny afternoon. I have a good friend who was perhaps 3 at the time who lived in a house which backed on to that park. He ran out into his garden to be confronted by this UFO, silver, seamless and disc shaped. He ran scared back into the house. He maintains it took up the whole park which would suggest it was a minimum 100m wide.

Last post from Pablo. It's been a while :)

Sorry Harold I'm not anonymous, I had signed in but got chucked out for the long post lol, I agree Interesting videos on YouTube with links too loads of celebrities speaking out.

RM8

I meant to say that IMO the artists being manipulated are not aware of this in most cases, they are just doing what they are told to gain fame and notoriety. But the labels etc. advise them to act in ways that push the agendas of the people who control this industry and others. The agendas are pushed through symbolism in videos, photoshoots and album covers and through the lyrics and themes of songs. Most pop stars behaviour of promisquity, drug use etc. only goes to help push these agendas. Celeb magazines amplify this by advertising their every step as though people should be more interested in the lives of celebrities than their own.

The fact that children look up to these people is worrying and helps explain why western society is heading the way it is I.e. Materialistic. That is what TPTB want, for us to be 'trapped by consumerism' and aspire only to be famous, rich or promisquous. On the TV side of things, my other half watches Made in Chelsea, my god if that is what young people aspire to be like then we are in trouble, lol

Harold

I agree anon, Michael Jackson is a credible example of someone who may have been acting out against these people. His speech against Sony, then his death under somewhat suspicious circumstances. His sister believes he was killed by the same people who controlled him, she only refers to them as 'they' or 'them'.

Sony still looking to make money out of him after death I believe? Possibly more than ever. Michael's daughter posted that she knew who the 'they' is in the song 'they don't really care about us' then posted a number of illuminati/masonic symbols.

I know nothing of MJ's alleged crimes against children so have no idea if he was innocent or guilty but either way it could be argued that the trials against him could have been a good way of controlling him if and when he acted up?

Harold

Wife calls me cranky so no sweat, the patterson tape shows no human was in a suit, the way it walks is not human like the arms are huge and swing in a ape like manner and as it turns it head you can see the muscle definition in its back and buttocks, put it this way if footage today was found I would be a lot more skeptical with hoaxes and things they can do now days , this tape is over forty years old and to stood up the test of time in my opinion.

I don't think there's many of them directly linked maybe only a few if any who really know what's going on and what there doing. I think they may be influenced to do and say & sing about things and put messages in there videos by people above them but, Solely for money & the fact if they don't they're careers get sabotaged & they end up hated, potless or even worse dead.

The old sell your soul thing could be true but not by actually selling your soul to the devil just giving up on your morals or unsuspectingly maybe in some cases intentionally affecting the minds & life's of the youth of today for personal gain. If someone can control the masses with there music then you can guarantee they'll be drafted in and there message will change.

If anyone's doing the "illuminatis" work it's Jay-Z, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Madonna, Rihanna, Kanye West P-Diddy, Nicki Minaj & possibly Pharrell I said a year ago he would quickly become one of the biggest stars in the world & he has you could see a change happening in his career & I hope that's through his own talents he seems a decent guy.

I think Justin Beiber & Miley Cyrus are just messed up spoiled kids & Illuminati wannabes I don't think they could be trusted there too stupid. Beiber was found just by posting videos of him singing on YouTube just as a young innocent kid. Miley came through the evil Disney Route she maybe in the last list. People who have spoke out about them and there careers have went south although they will always have millions of fans there's plenty.

John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Bob Marley, Tupac, Eminem, DMX, 50 Cent, Ice Cube, Lil Wayne, Nas. Most of them spoke out because they were probably tired of being told what message to send to there fans so I'm not saying they didn't work for "them" I'm the first place. It's not so far fetched that the music industry is used to control & in the past stir things up.

There will be many who haven't spoke out publicly but might have felt the effects of the Influential ones. Such as Kurt Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Whitney Houston, Biggie Smalls, Buddy Holly, Otis Reading maybe even Amy Winehouse who really knows.

That's just the music Industry you've got Actors, Models, politicians even presidents influential people In all walks of life even the little guy who stands up like Malcolm X. Lady Di who tried to get herself out of it but sadly couldn't & was murdered. I may not be right in all my names but I'm sure I'm not that far away.

It does seen a good film that. I'm skeptical as to whether we could adapt to breathe the air. I don't know much about it but it doesn't seem highly likely. Would there be food to eat could we drink that water? As much as I want to believe we could I can't get my head around it. Do any of you think there is presently life on mars? Have you saw the anomalies that look like stairs, houses, statues & even giant skulls? Maybe remains of ancient life on a planet which is now dead?