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I raised the question regarding the Beatles influences some time ago. Chris Spivey has recently done a blog on his website relating to this and other artists of the era, if anyone is interested. he thinks Paul McCartney and other artists were drawn towards the occult.

Someone posted a link to an hour long illuminati documentary on here some time ago which showed how many of the current pop stars seem to be being used to push agendas, such as Katy Perry etc. All her recent songs, videos, albums show blatent symbology. it was a good, basic run down of the subject with lots of current examples from the industry - I will locate it if anyone cannot find it.

Vigilant citizen is a good website for illuminati symbolism found in our media. I would recommend it to anyone who is interested in the subject.

We also had an interesting discussion some weeks ago about the laurel canyon scene in the 60's/70's which I found particularly interesting.

I personally believe that all forms of mainstream media are used to push agendas and influence us in the way TPTB wish. The more popular the artist/channel/programme the more likely it is to be under influence. The blatent sexualisation of children through pop music (which is aimed towards young people specifically) has to be one of the most obvious examples IMO.

Harold

Like KP I have little knowledge so won't be voting on this one, I am open minded though and interested in any links/sources that can be shared.

Franky, I have seen the Patterson tapes before but due to my limited imagination on the subject find it hard to believe as the real thing. But then I have nothing to base this on or to compare with I just find it hard to believe the way it walks and turns around towards the camera.

I would be interested in a poll, do the patteron tapes show a real bigfoot? To see what the consensus is.

Harold

P.s. Predictive text (annoying) always changes 'franky' to 'cranky' on my phone so don't be offended if I ever refer to you as the latter it will be a mistake :D

18 May 2014 13:27:30
I don't know much about the subject so I didn't vote. To be honest it is an area I know little about and that only thanks to this site and people on here who are interested in it. I do think it exists but I would like to raise two points.

1. Academics tend to be extremely blinkered and only look for evidence that supports their theory. Any little inconveniences that go against their work tend to be ignored at best and suppressed at worst. It gets worse when you take into account commercial funding as then they are paid to support whatever view their sponsors are pushing.

2. Who's to say that they haven't found one or at least the proof and have suppressed it as it would raise far too many questions and blow too many holes into the established wisdom

Kim Philby

Potentially most of the black artists in hip hop, r&b etc in America. Possibly people like justin beiber, Miley Cyrus, the disney camp lot (can't remember them all).
In the past references to the Beatles, (franky might have something to say about them), chilli peppers, nirvana, green day, kiss, pink Floyd, Madonna and many more. There is also stuff regarding some of those acts that may have been "awake" and were anti illuminati such as possibly, nirvana, pink Floyd and Beatles, maybe even public enemy who I used to listen to in my younger years.

Supasub

Thanks franky, will have a watch when I get a mo.

We find different species every day but the question has to be asked if they found a bigfoot it would open a can of worms about our dna and where we really came from.

Sorry mate I wish I had any worthwhile advice but I have not, smaller businesses only seem to get to a certain level then either fold up or you sell up to a bigger chain, when we had to claim benefits it took nearly 5 weeks to get the right paper work and we were struggling, wife gets a full time job and declares it and everything is stopped there and then.

one thing that is invaluable if you know your rights about any legal matters, this is drifting off your subject mate so I do apologise but this is a good example how you can stand up to big cooperation's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKOa-5GPPg

Just seen my post, apologies everyone/ed but had a few glasses of red tonight but it is as it is.

Supasub

So they wanna program our mind on impending disasters with movies but it scares them that we can go and breath the air on a different planet? makes sense.

Just seen a clip, looks a decent movie.

Any basis for that? bit of a bold sweeping statement.

gerrrymcgin1888

17 May 2014 15:07:13
Both mobiles and the landline. Blocked the numbers on the mobile. Trying to reach the landline provider. Just had one claiming to be from Microsoft claiming the computer is sending out message that its broken. Total nonsense and some sort of scam of course. My eldest works in it. Traced the number back to Dubai. Gave him a few choice words in Russian and a couple of what I can remember in Arabic! British telecom will be getting some as well!

Kim Philby

17 May 2014 15:00:26
Its all a load of busquets.

Plus watch the patterson tape, no human in a suit could hoax with the muscle definition of the bigfoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJjUt2sXo5o

Is it the same thing as the mothman prophecies was about?!

PmacC

Yes Real-Messi, agreed. Those barca-stards will probably get away with it. Nothing will come of it, absolutely Nada. l. (Last line a bit cr*p but best I could do. )

Supasub

It was a stitch up job to claim the insurance.

Ryan.

I think I watched it before, but I will watch it again Ed033. I often watch these videos at work, and miss chunks of them as a result. I don't disbelieve the idea of bigfoot/yeti at all. Certainly if I remember correctly, Lloyd Pye suggests that we cannot have evolved into homosapiens as per the official story of evolution, and that we might be a hybrid of human and and extra terrestrial species?

Ryan.

Yes Harold I also voted no, but only because there isn't an option to say 'not sure'. I really don't know, but if there is an undocumented hybrid biped out there it wouldn't really go down well with organised religion, government etc. It would turn the official story of evolution on it's head.

Ryan.

He was 73 and very ill, so maybe the poor fella did fall.

Supasub I think the missing bloodbags could be very messi if they're ever found.

Ryan.