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That is disheartening Melbourne.
When people fail to understand the consequences of their choices, satire might help free them from their mind trap.
Why should we only consume the waste of coal burning power plants? How about a referendum for introducing mercury or nuclear waste into the water supply?
When people are trapped in dualities, describing both extremes usually helps them come up with a new solution to the problem at hand.

In regards to your second note, I agree with you and Franky.
I think ever since the establishment figured out they lost the majority of their audience to small budget (alternative) media, they've been filling the web with disinformation sites.
Can't remember where I found the article, but there were some interesting statistics on the massive budget increase to governments, for the purpose of web based public relations campaigns.
I trust most of us can deduce what the establishment is referring to, irrelevantly of the used terminology.

As for your closing question, the establishment shines the light of publicity on areas where they think they can shift public opinion to their benefit.
Evidently, after the numerous internal discussion leaks and the Crimean referendum, they no longer consider that a possibility.
They will most likely give it another shot, once they believe they can convincingly paint the Russian government as an enemy of whatever.
zari

04 Apr 2014 11:18:23
So you think its an exaggeration of Philbys role then?

Kim Philby

Sorry thought I posted the link.

http://www.slemen.com/

Hence on the documentary the bbc never gave any solid evidence that KP was this treacherous spy, in other words the show says" trust us"

as I am always skeptical of our great BBC propaganda machine and to be honest they seem to forget about another spy called Jeremy thorp, maybe its because he was a first cousin of the queen.

Yes Mort, I think Zari mentioned something about those sad little persons before.

Ryan.

03 Apr 2014 22:42:20
I believe a lot of files are still locked away Franky. In that game its all about betrayal, the constant lies gets stressful. Was having a similar discussion on Tuesday night with a couple of old friends. Its an odd business, living on nerves and adrenaline. The other member has never been officially confirmed after all, and the other major spy ring has never been revealed.

Kim Philby

Interesting documentary more a betrayal about friendship than anything concrete in the documentary.

Thanks for the tip zari, I hope you don't know that from experience!

Harold

03 Apr 2014 21:15:11
Well I wouldn't be surprised even though place us different without the wall.

Kim Philby

03 Apr 2014 21:11:12
No I'm not ;)

Have part one recorded.

Kim Philby

Gotta love the random disagreers. KP you picked up a tail.

Mort

Hey Harold, if you are at a festival and someone mentions the Grateful Dead and then the "suck your face" skull, be extra cautious of what you consume.
Some people have been using that ridiculous meme as an opener for aggressive conditioning.
I have no proof of a cia connection but it wouldn't surprise me.
zari

There is a hidden power that controls these families and has been forever. This entity has been around for thousands of years. They created us, through genetic engineering, as a slave race to mine gold!
They created a human power structure, the pyramid, which would continue to manage the extraction of gold from the planet by us, their slaves.
These entities are known as the Annunaki and some of them reside in the Vatican to this day!
The Vatican is controlled by the Jesuits, and here is where the pinnacle of this pyramid lies.
They hold power over these families, royal or banking, they control the intelligence agencies, they have their own army and their own bank, but more importantly, they have 600,000 metric tons of gold!
To control the slaves, religions were created, to continue belief in these religions prophecies were written into scriptures, now they have to be fulfilled otherwise we lose faith in them and they lose control.
When Nibiru returns, these slave masters will present our gold to the returning Annunaki, as a gift, as a token, which they will gladly accept, in return they expect immortality on top of the technology they have already bartered for.
We have been set up, but we are unique. We are a species that create reality through thought. We just aren't as aware of our true powers as we should be.
The time is not the end, the Armageddon, the time is for change, for evolution to override, for us to let go of all that is synthetic and immerse ourselves in all that is not.
Our reunion with the source, our realisation of our oneness.

Alright mate I would suggest reading his free edition chapters and see if you like them, I will give you the link and scroll down to just under half way down until you come to "some published tales" where there are different chapters on strange paranormal events that happened.

Toxteth Bloodsuckers is the first story then theirs another 20/30 stories that are free, it will give you a clue if you want to buy any of his in books.

Hi edd02
I tried posting this link on the previous discussion as I came a cross it yesterday

http://12160.info/m/blogpost?id
=2649739%3ABlogPost%3A795447

I'm embarrassed to say that, although I am aware of Tom Slemen, I have not read any of his books. This despite the good feedback I have heard from those who have. Embarrassed because he is a local author (to you and me both mate) and his genre is very interesting.
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, to those unfamiliar with St. John's Beacon, how scary it is being at the top when the wind is howling about it. I remember going countless times when I was a kid, in them days it was a restaurant rather than a radio station. It was a pretty frightening ordeal (if heights aren't your thing) when the wind rocked it from its foundations. As you say mate, years of being weather beaten must surely take it's toll on such a structure. If nothing else it is certainly an iconic Liverpool building.
Can you recommend any of Tom's books please Franky?

Sometimes we have to do wrong to make things right? Anybody else agree

That's no fun Ed but I thought that would be your answer!

Forgot to add further down the page - your friend Kevin Ayres must have been an inspiration to my favourite band of all time, Gorky Zygotic Mynci (who happen to have gone to my school and lived near me since), as they wrote a song with his name as the title. I think they covered/rearranged a song by Robert Wyatt too called 'O caroline'. And i'm sure some of that crew have come down to the Laugharne literature festival (west Wales) which is very near my homeland. Its a small world.

Harold

Thanks Ed002. Sorry to pester you but what are your thoughts on the Grove? Is it as conspiratorial as we are lead to believe or just a bunch of influential people having innocent fun in public?

Harold

Agree with you edd.