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Pea

Some use the explanation that the beams fell leaving trails of other dust behind, though I must admit that's not what it looked like from where i'm sitting!

harold

I think it would drive me round the bend!.

Supasub

03 Dec 2013 17:17:11
Let's not forget the massive steel beam that simply turns to dust and floats away on the breeze. Looking at it again it seems that aside form smoke from fire, the central steel core of the buildings were being turned to dust throughout the morning. The core of the buildings were being carried away on the breeze, leading to the (obviously very dark) comedic collapse of said towers.
I would conclude that the black tech was deployed in conjunction with enough noise and explosions to mask said technology.
The general populace, and these architects and engineers imo are admiring the kings splendid new outfit. Are you? pea

If all these are indeed real and not some hoax, I do not see how they could not implement an act they signed. Governments all over the world would dishonor their contracts and the establishment would loose all control.
The USA is currently serving as the enforcer for the establishment and in that role, one must keep up pretenses.
Supposedly, it all began when a part of the military, headed by a general, stormed the white house and forced Bill Clinton to sign this act.
The false-flag attack on the twin towers was, among other things, an effort by the establishment to delay the implementation of this act.
In 22/08/2002 the ICJ (International Court of Justice) ruled that the signatories of this act must honor their contracts.
According to some claims, the only way for the USA to not honor their contract and avoid being reprimanded by the ICJ is to produce an excuse and establish martial law.
Personally, I do not think the establishment has the power to stage another false-flag attack, there seems to be too many disagreeing voices in key governmental positions.
Even if they somehow managed to pull of another false-flag operation, I cannot see the american people falling for it again.
Zari

Franky, I assume we all agree there, to disprove the 'official story' is the easy bit.

Thanks everyone, was hoping to open this kind of discussion. I need to do some more digging and to read the book.

Ed033, one explanation the arch & eng gave for the toasted cars was that thermitic material could have travelled through the air in the dust and landed on the cars, however, that does not explain how some were flipped over!

Harold

Ed033 I agree the half toasted cars are difficult if not impossible to explain in the context of existing or known technology. How can you incinerate half of a car and the other half looks as though no heat touched it at all? Thanks for the links.

Ryan

Buy a bottle and find out?

Aron

I had seen the apparent email/message Blair was sent but dismissed it as most likely a fake at the time. Would be interested if anyone has more info on this though.

Harold

Black technology or normal either way the official verdict is a pack of lies.

Although I have read extensively on her site, I have not yet read the book, so I am not in a position to agree or disagree with Judy Woods. She is impressive though, and I have an open mind on her theory.

It would be helpful to hear what other scientists and demolition experts etc think about the seismic reading. I agree with Harold that this information is central to her argument. I also agree that there is a large body of evidence that suggests multiple explosions occurred, and it has crossed my mind that there may possibly have been both black & white technology used on 9/11.

I think we all agree the official story is a lie, but as for what really happened I still have lots of questions.

Ed033 do you know if Judy Woods plans any talks on this side of the pond in 2014? I would love to go and listen to her talk live.

Ryan

Zari, I seriously doubt that NESARA will be implemented by the U. S. or anyone else.

Two points; Judy Wood's presentation is truly astounding when you take the time to study it, and;
stating that something is wrong "because I don't believe it's possible" is hardly evidence to bring to the table i. e. it doesn't carry much weight (well none, actually). pea

Personally, I think Dr Wood's theory is the only one that is plausible. There are too many things that can't be explained by the thermite/thermate theory. This theory was originally put forward by Dr Steven Jones, I used to think this theory was correct myself, but now think it's part of the cover up. Dr Wood has been marginalised by the 9/11 truth movement in favour of the thermite theorists. Ask yourself. Why? The tech involved in DEW's would be based on sound or electrical wave frequencies. Haarp is the tip of the iceberg IMO.

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MrTrotskysGhost

Thanks for the reply ed. I am considering buying the book along with a few others for christmas so will see how I get on with it.

Harold

To anon
Are you referring to the statement that all dualities fit in a sphere?

I believe it is how nature was designed and has its basis in math.
A circle can be analyzed as the sum of infinitely small lines (dx) in a polygonal view.
The earth appears flat, depending on altitude and field of view but is sphere.
The same seems to hold true in dimensional progressions where the relationship between systems is limited by point of view. Microcosm - macrocosm.

Everything occupying space fits in a shape that changes according to dimension.
A point in a 1 dimensional reality.
A line in a 2 dimensional reality.
A sphere in a 3 dimensional reality.
A double vortex in a 4 dimensional reality.
. l O X

Apply its highest corresponding dimensional spin from the center of that shape and you get the next one.
Zari

I understood that they have to be under oath otherwise they are not bound to follow the law, but I had no idea that Magistrates Court and County Court worked that way. I wonder how many people know that stepping in those court rooms.

To anon
Wikipedia is a tool of the establishment. If you roam through controversial subjects and check the page history, notice what things are altered or simply taken down.
Zari

How does a lawful human being with all god given and amiable rights in tact become a fictional entity or a corporation i.e. a person. No one would willingly give up there human rights, as that is whAt you do when you become a person. The only way they can do this is by deception. Just a quick copy and paste from the first wiki I found on contract law- "If the terms are certain, and the parties can be presumed from their behaviour to have intended that the terms are binding, generally the agreement is enforceable" does that sound like full disclosure to you? Because to me that sounds like a way for the ruling classes to presume our acceptance of there terms without us even having to say a word.

Full disclosure doesn't force either party to divulge the truth. It simply means they cannot withhold it. It doesn't force them to make it easy to find nor word it in a way it is easy to understand.

As anon said this whole subject is a bit confusing, especially because a lot of these terms carry more weight than we are used to perceive in them, when used in legal context.
To anyone interested, start at admiralty law and make your way through "idem sonans" (sounds alike) to "stramineus Homo" (a substitute put forward as bail or security).

A simple look at the subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME7K6P7hlko#t=84

Zari

I know plenty of ignorant people that didn't read the small letters of a contract or didn't understand the contained legal terms, but signed anyway. Mostly because they were naive. Tricked is a subjective term.

Judges don't get to make any decision they like. They examine the evidence and interpret the law. The evidence shows what they are biased to see, but it is still within the boundaries of law.
You cannot be imprisoned when there is no law stating that what you are being accused of doing is illegal and carries a prison sentence.

I guess the point I am trying to make is, that the establishment abides to certain rules. They use them to their benefit and they don't inform us on what they are, but there are rules none the less.

Larken Rose mentions it in some of his videos.
This might be of interest as well and is full of links, some more useful than others.
http://www.henrymakow.com/defending_yourself_against_leg.html
Zari