I believe you can be tricked into a contract, and the establishment do this not with your birth certificate, but with joinder, when you are invited or "summoned" to a civil or "magistrates" court, they ask you for your name, when they do this they are actually asking for you to represent the legal fiction, or corporation that is on your birth certificate, legal and lawful are not synonymous, you can lawfully refuse to represent that legal fiction, and if you know your stuff and are respectful, then they can only hold your birth certificate, as that is what they are actually asking for. From the moment your mother and father "register" your birth you are technically a member of that company and will be disciplined under the rules or "statutes" of that company. We are all slaves to the United Kingdom Plc, or United States Plc. We are tricked into believing we are free members of that society however we are simply a tool, and a means to an end for the ruling classes. I may not have made a lot of sense in this post but if you look up "John Harris- It's an illusion 2" he's a man who has done his research on the subject and can explain this a lot clearer than I have.
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How can you say it as fact zari. surely many of your ideas are the only theories and should be presented and such
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Ed033, people get tricked into contracts all the time. Put anything that constitutes a unique identifier on an agreement and in most countries it is accepted by court as equivalent to a signature. There are countries under British law where blood, fingerprints and footprints are used instead of signatures. As there are no age limits on representing yourself, courts expect and will force you to honor your signature.
Laws were put in place by people who do not care about the well being of society as a whole.
The words lawful and legal are synonymous. However, neither have anything to do with justice.
One can be as unjust as they wish. If on the other hand, one does something illegal/unlawful then violence, or the threat of violence, always ensues from a tool of the establishment.
As for governments, they have a corporate side to them and above certain levels, are run as corporations. In the USA's case this began with the Act of 1871. That is when the United States federal entity, created the UNITED STATES corporation. When I use the word establishment I am not referring neither to government nor governance. Just as you said, these are but tools in the hands of the establishment.
Zari
Read discussionEd033, people get tricked into contracts all the time. Put anything that constitutes a unique identifier on an agreement and in most countries it is accepted by court as equivalent to a signature. There are countries under British law where blood, fingerprints and footprints are used instead of signatures. As there are no age limits on representing yourself, courts expect and will force you to honor your signature.
Laws were put in place by people who do not care about the well being of society as a whole.
The words lawful and legal are synonymous. However, neither have anything to do with justice.
One can be as unjust as they wish. If on the other hand, one does something illegal/unlawful then violence, or the threat of violence, always ensues from a tool of the establishment.
As for governments, they have a corporate side to them and above certain levels, are run as corporations. In the USA's case this began with the Act of 1871. That is when the United States federal entity, created the UNITED STATES corporation. When I use the word establishment I am not referring neither to government nor governance. Just as you said, these are but tools in the hands of the establishment.
Zari
01 Dec 2013 14:18:07
Money grabbing greedy woman with a book coming out by the way, I know this because she held it up twice. She also says I will not use the race card. but. pmsl. Oh and the woman doing the interview says no hypocrisy on her show yet the woman she is interviewing is the biggest hypocrite of all, if in doubt how about this line from MRS Whiplash. " they are using peoples taxes" pmsl again. How someone who spent her whole life avoiding paying taxes can come out with that comment I will never know.
She also says she put that picture that accidently got taken and kept for all these years on e bay for 40 grand, obviously blackmail as your average Joe could not nor would not pay that kind of money which leaves the only other interested buyers the press or George boy himself. By the way she has a book coming out in case no one noticed.
Read discussionMoney grabbing greedy woman with a book coming out by the way, I know this because she held it up twice. She also says I will not use the race card. but. pmsl. Oh and the woman doing the interview says no hypocrisy on her show yet the woman she is interviewing is the biggest hypocrite of all, if in doubt how about this line from MRS Whiplash. " they are using peoples taxes" pmsl again. How someone who spent her whole life avoiding paying taxes can come out with that comment I will never know.
She also says she put that picture that accidently got taken and kept for all these years on e bay for 40 grand, obviously blackmail as your average Joe could not nor would not pay that kind of money which leaves the only other interested buyers the press or George boy himself. By the way she has a book coming out in case no one noticed.
Ed033, he was specifically talking about inner-terrestrial beings. Like in the hollow earth theory.
Also, quite irrelevantly to what you and I think, the establishment considers us as a resource.
Our names in capital letters on our birth certificates, with our footprints beneath, are legal documents establishing corporations in our names that are under the control of our governments.
It may be illegal for them to use physical entities as a commodity, but corporate ones are fair game.
They calculate the average life span, over the average income and quantify what we are likely to produce during our lifetimes. This is simply one type of derivative.
These derivatives are then leveraged, more money goes in circulation and debt ceilings rise.
Ever wander why national debt is calculated as debt per capita? That is why.
Zari
Read discussionAlso, quite irrelevantly to what you and I think, the establishment considers us as a resource.
Our names in capital letters on our birth certificates, with our footprints beneath, are legal documents establishing corporations in our names that are under the control of our governments.
It may be illegal for them to use physical entities as a commodity, but corporate ones are fair game.
They calculate the average life span, over the average income and quantify what we are likely to produce during our lifetimes. This is simply one type of derivative.
These derivatives are then leveraged, more money goes in circulation and debt ceilings rise.
Ever wander why national debt is calculated as debt per capita? That is why.
Zari
01 Dec 2013 02:26:40
Not that these things you speak of aren't real, Zari - not at all; but that they can largely serve as a cover story for bad people. pea
Read discussionNot that these things you speak of aren't real, Zari - not at all; but that they can largely serve as a cover story for bad people. pea
01 Dec 2013 02:14:38
That's because it's pure b.s., BigRed.
pea
Read discussionThat's because it's pure b.s., BigRed.
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frankyscouser · 01 Dec 2013 00:31Well for what its worth I believe the majority of abductions and sacrifices that happen are done by satanic leaders who run the kabul because since we have walked the earth they have known about alien beings taking people the majority children and I reckon that they think it gives exterrestrials more power or like zari mentioned something to do with our souls.
Read discussionSome time ago I was discussing these mysterious child abductions with someone and he told me this hard to believe theory.
He said that the establishment has made a deal with inner-terrestrial beings, allowing them to abduct humans in exchange for technology.
These beings were not only conducting genetic experiments, but were also using children as vessels for their souls.
There were some other parts as well, but it just made it more confusing. I found it as peculiar then as I do now, but since this subject was brought up I thought I might as well put it out there.
Zari
Read discussionHe said that the establishment has made a deal with inner-terrestrial beings, allowing them to abduct humans in exchange for technology.
These beings were not only conducting genetic experiments, but were also using children as vessels for their souls.
There were some other parts as well, but it just made it more confusing. I found it as peculiar then as I do now, but since this subject was brought up I thought I might as well put it out there.
Zari
Even if it was allowed to happen what really annoys me of is that no-one did anything to stop them, I saw some of the video footage on the news and your man in talking to the camera and people brush past him ignoring him WTF one shop owner shouted stop at them! And the people standing there just watching and filming it they should all be ashamed false flag or not allowed to happen or not.
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Over the years i've heard so many people say more-or-less exactly what you've said about 9/11, AP, and every time I feel like asking them what they want; so, whaddya want? A medal? You believe it was allowed to happen? Well bravo, round of applause for this guy. person. pea
Read discussionOver the years i've heard so many people say more-or-less exactly what you've said about 9/11, AP, and every time I feel like asking them what they want; so, whaddya want? A medal? You believe it was allowed to happen? Well bravo, round of applause for this guy. person. pea
No name, 'when does the stage fall'
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That doesn't mean it wasn't staged, they could of had people higher up telling them to do this.
Read discussionFranky, that I can completely agree with. The powers that be let these events take place. That's my stance on 9/11 also.
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frankyscouser · 30 Nov 2013 11:00Pedophilla is connected to every conspiracy you can name one way or another and I don't think the average person on the street realises that kids are getting sold go missing get molested every day,
now try and get your head around this,
a million documented cases of kids go missing around the world each year, and that's just documented but you hardly hear of it, now imagine if it was say 1 million jewish people or roman catholics go missing each year, it would make news, so why is it ignored?think about it, its like the worst holocaust every year, 1 million kids never seen again.
i fear all around the world the kabal who want a new world order are the satanic leaders who have the power to keep this quiet and in my opinion we do not know how big this ring is and how powerful it goes up to.
Read discussionnow try and get your head around this,
a million documented cases of kids go missing around the world each year, and that's just documented but you hardly hear of it, now imagine if it was say 1 million jewish people or roman catholics go missing each year, it would make news, so why is it ignored?think about it, its like the worst holocaust every year, 1 million kids never seen again.
i fear all around the world the kabal who want a new world order are the satanic leaders who have the power to keep this quiet and in my opinion we do not know how big this ring is and how powerful it goes up to.
Reply · frankyscouser · 30 Nov 2013 11:00
frankyscouser · 30 Nov 2013 11:00Listen guys from day one I never said the guy was not murdered but ask yourself this the security in the uk is very high, too high, we can bug checkup on our eu partners but ordinary people like us are fair game? they admitted the two guys were being surveyed and monitored according to mi6, draw your own conclusions, my thoughts are this was allowed to happen whether the suspects are part of it or done it of their own accord I really do not care, the establishment has allowed a young man to be slaughtered for their race hate agenda that is playing out now.
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Conspiracists take things too far. These two things were obviously as the tv said.
Dave
Read discussionConspiracists take things too far. These two things were obviously as the tv said.
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I think it's more than just Disney, it's the movie industry as a whole. The reason it is more evident in the case of Disney, is because its programming is intended for children.
I think it all began with Edward Bernays. Propaganda became public relations and soon after, companies started hiring psychologists to design their advertisements. They were interested in influencing people on buying products irrelevantly of quality, functionality or necessity. The establishment however, took it a step further.
Television was created, advertisements became commercials and propaganda moved from the radio to the film.
The establishment began to dismantle the education system on a global scale, making peoples analytical thinking more alike, turning them into one target. Ignorance and insecurity became rampant.
Nowadays, public relations is called entertainment. All those triggers instilled in us during our formal "education" years (read mass programming) are exploited and reaffirmed on a daily basis. It is evident, that movie scripts are not chosen on the basis of constructive imagination, philosophical wealth and inspiration to serve the commons.
On the other hand, anyone can write a book. It does not take a large budget to create and there is no need for establishment approval for it be globally available.
Zari
Read discussionI think it all began with Edward Bernays. Propaganda became public relations and soon after, companies started hiring psychologists to design their advertisements. They were interested in influencing people on buying products irrelevantly of quality, functionality or necessity. The establishment however, took it a step further.
Television was created, advertisements became commercials and propaganda moved from the radio to the film.
The establishment began to dismantle the education system on a global scale, making peoples analytical thinking more alike, turning them into one target. Ignorance and insecurity became rampant.
Nowadays, public relations is called entertainment. All those triggers instilled in us during our formal "education" years (read mass programming) are exploited and reaffirmed on a daily basis. It is evident, that movie scripts are not chosen on the basis of constructive imagination, philosophical wealth and inspiration to serve the commons.
On the other hand, anyone can write a book. It does not take a large budget to create and there is no need for establishment approval for it be globally available.
Zari
Its the law of attraction my man!
Read discussionThere was a book titled "Masters of the Far East", in which a group of western scientists documented cases of people exhibiting all sorts of abilities not within mainstream science's understanding.
Also, during the cold war the USSR and the USA invested heavily in researching unconventional abilities. That research gave rise to many secret programs among which, one that was leaked under the name remote viewing.
Harvard was doing some interesting research in extra sensory perception and one of their scientists concluded that there are over fifty senses.
If we are trained to believe that we only have five sensory inputs, but in reality have over fifty, who's to say that our outputs weren't falsely quantified as well?
Mainstream science is an area occupied by fixed minds too concerned with titles and positions. Most of them receive absurd amounts of money to agree with the industry.
We are being programmed to disregard our true nature and to focus on the narrow band of the material world the establishment wants us focused on.
If you believe everything is possible, it is.
Zari
Read discussionAlso, during the cold war the USSR and the USA invested heavily in researching unconventional abilities. That research gave rise to many secret programs among which, one that was leaked under the name remote viewing.
Harvard was doing some interesting research in extra sensory perception and one of their scientists concluded that there are over fifty senses.
If we are trained to believe that we only have five sensory inputs, but in reality have over fifty, who's to say that our outputs weren't falsely quantified as well?
Mainstream science is an area occupied by fixed minds too concerned with titles and positions. Most of them receive absurd amounts of money to agree with the industry.
We are being programmed to disregard our true nature and to focus on the narrow band of the material world the establishment wants us focused on.
If you believe everything is possible, it is.
Zari