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Refering to Comrade I don't accept things without proof. For example I am currently looking at 2pac's susposed death, I look at the evidence for and against it and I can see that the evidence for it far outways the evidence against it, so I therefore believe he faked his death, its the same with any conspiracy I look at

Hey Boozy its not just companies that apparently don't think water is a right as our brilliant taoisach Enda Kenny wants to have a water tax and a home tax aren't they both basic human rights? I know water is anyway

Draining the great lakes dry?! Do me a favour!

Every day Thames Water creates tens of millions of litres of fresh water from sea water. which now seems overly complicated when we could just send a constant stream of oil tankers back and forth to the US to fill up on their great lake water!

Pablo

No Melbourne, was not implying an afterlife when I wrote above, meant it in the sense that death brings an end to the questions.

As for myself I tend to think we may be more than the physical body we are. Whether that is some consciousness in the form of energy, I can't know. I certainly don't expect to go floating on clouds with a harp. I have no problem with evolution but it must also be recognised that there are plenty of people in the scientific community who question if it answers everything. Even Francis Crick thinks some form of intervention may account for our development. If as you say there is blackness after death then I won't care, as what I was will have ceased to be. While I'm alive I'll enjoy living, see as much of the world as possible, treat people well and question as much as my limited brain will allow. Right now I'm waiting for a live broadcast of the Sirius documentary to help address some of those questions, maybe.

Captain Needa

Pretty interesting that you come out with that statement Boozy. I agree with you on it by the way! I am literally just starting to watch a documentary on cold fusion and the opening statement was a quote from Jules Verne which said “I believe that water one day will be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen, which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light of an intensity of which coal is not capable, ” Now I know he was a science fiction writer and that but it would make you think that water rights are slowly being eroded away and given to multi nationals. It would make you think is there some substance to what Jules Verne is saying and the control of water is being transferred to the large corporations before some new form of energy is released which is derived from the elements of water.

My guess is tmooney doesn't care a rat's behind what you believe. he jess wants yall to stops discussin real stuff like wot 'em evil elites are up to. I read stuff here always an I never seen many hard facts put together in a few posts like today. thanks to all contributors an lookout for trollin mooneys

How do we mean by "the sure thing is one day we will all have answers etc" Captain? Are you implying in the afterlife we will know? I for one believe once we die, the world turns black, you're put in a box in the ground or a furnish above it. Nothing more.

I think I am similar to many on here with the belief that a religious god is a ridiculous concept but a higher power is certainly plausible. Evolution is indisputable, however, the details are blurred and how we took the leap from creature to intellectually advanced creator is still not fully known.

Melbourne CFC

Melbourne CFC

Jay,

Evolution is not the all encompassing answer to how we came to be either. Science cannot definitively determine when or how humans broke from our ancestors. At one time it was a given fact that neandherthals and Cro Magno (a term no longer in use) couldn't have mated and one killed off the other. The latest science is that interbreeding occured between them. Darwin placed a lot of faith in random mutations to prove a lot of his thesis for survival of the fittest. Many modern geneticists would say this creates impaired offspring not stronger ones. The science evolves too over time and sometimes what was considered fact gets revised. As a species we have definitely evolved over a vast period of time, but, as of now, we do not know all the answers to how this took place. Some of us choose to question this in whatever way we can and the answer for some is a god, for others its some form of intervention that created what we became, for others its evolution, from an amoeba to a walking, thinking being (in the case of humans). Someday we may have proof of whichever is the right answer, the sure thing is that all of us will one day have answers. We just won't be in a position to debate and question like we can now.

Captain Needa

Really interesting post, certainly one with more questions than answers.

Like Franky, I personally don't believe in God and do believe in evolution.

But I'm just not sure we know enough about our history to give too many conclusive answers - there's often talk about a "missing link" in the fossil record of human evolution.

And isn't it fairly well documented that evolution is a VERY slow process? (Too slow for humans to have evolved in such a short time frame).
I've read different opinions though and it seems even leading scientists can't decide (or simply do not know).

My personal opinion is that our history is and will remain a mystery.

The link below is just an example of how alternative history just might be possible.

After all, it's more believable than the bible!

http://www.luisprada.com/protected/the_lacerta_files.htm

They've been draining the great lakes for years and selling it to China. Thanks for the link. Ryan.

{Ed033's Note - Draining the Great Lakes of America dry - Conspiracy Theory - Jesse Ventura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx65EeLk4Ro

Thanks for that edd!
Jtoon

Ahh what a find couldn't honestly believe the nerve of this guy made me sick to my stomach that's what's wrong with the world people like him Pure Greed! The general public pumps millions of pounds a year to give poor kids in Africa clean water & have seen very little progress in return then there's all these fatcats who also supposably donate huge sums of money and there's still 1000s dying everyday. I'm not saying there's not a lot of great people out there doing wonderful things and some very generous wealthy human beings donating time & money to charity but on the other hand as our countrys plummet further into recession the likes of Comic Relief & Children in need break there records every year where does it go honestly? To think that there's parents of sick kids in Britain struggling to raise money for there child's operationa they need to go to America for & we spend all that money on Maggies Funeral turns my guts what a world we live in charge the working man for water we and our children are all royally screwed for years to come.

Rise & Shine

Personally I do not think boston is connected to the other two events, I think the shootings at sandy hook and aurora are more to do with the second amendment on gun laws were else I think boston was more of a reminder by the elite that we all need to be protected and no doubt more liberties will be taken from us all for our own benefit of course.

Gbi hence my point, we all do not agree on certain subjects on this site but we have a inkling something is not right.

Possible MK ultra style mind control (if it exists?).
Maybe post a link ed/anyone?

Supasub

The report last year. I was young when hillsborough happened and didn't even know of the hatred towards the sun newspaper regarding there portrayal of the fans that got caught up in the tragedy. Only in the last year, since the report I have seen how big a cover up it was, and made me re-asses my views on certain events and how our media go about reporting it I mean If they can try and sweep something as horrible and tragic as that disaster under the rug, what else are they capable of.

GBI

{Ed033's Note - The main stream media are capable of misrepresenting everything except sport scores.

That was me m8 who said "something we can not comprehend " lol, until jk92 answers you I will give you my two pennies worth.

1 we as humans are creating all types of things every day, who is to say we could not create a new species in a million years time?

3 the evolution thing to me would mean that every living thing on the earth would have to evolve its intelligence but to me since the theory that we came from nethanderals our intelligence has increased massively in a relatively short amount of time.

just my take on it m8.

I never said "something we can't comprehend created us" no name.

I was just implying with my post that we could of been genetically engineered by other beings.

My belief is:

I don't believe in God but I am open to there being a God, it's something we can't prove or disprove.

I DO believe in Evolution but I don't believe it created man kind, until we find the missing link there isn't any evidence to say we evolved here. but I could be wrong.

I DO believe in Aliens of some kind, I don't believe we are alone in the Universe.
I believe we could of been genetically engineered by some other species created by nature. I could be wrong.

So basically I am open minded about everything, until there is concrete evidence about any of the three then I will be open to any of the 3 theories.


JK92

Jk92 in particular with "something we can't comprehend created us"

and most recent posters I suppose franky mate, first I've seen anything on here for a while that I wanted to talk about. but that's on me as I supoose not a lot gets my attention these days. lol

Which report?the taylor report or the report last year?well to be honest it doesn't really matter as the vile comments made by the establishment and media a couple of days after hillsborough, my point is not just me but nearly everyone from liverpool knew it was a coverup and it has took a report that has took nearly a quarter of a century for people like you to believe, like I mentioned I question most things, I think its our duty to scrutinize what we are being told.