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I've heard of pcp having a similar affect, just google pcp stories, that's some messed up reading,

I managed to catch the repeat showing of the c5 documentary.

Whilst they did a good job of raising the suspicious activities of the secret service and the farce that was the autopsy and the Warren Commission, I do feel this was a bit of an attempt at disinformation.

Are we really supposed to see this, think o it was just a freak accident, a 1 in a million shot from the bodyguard, and then just stop asking questions and wonder of thinking well that solved that.


Mort

I have to say I have often wondered why Jack Ruby is not covered in more detail. It's a good point Ed002.

Ryan.

Good post H

So much disinformation out there on this subject, which illustrates the lengths TPTB have gone to, to cover up the truth.

I saw a similar ch5 documentary that concluded the shot came from the car behind when a secret service agent accidentally pulled the trigger upon slipping - how convenient! Not to mention the shot came from the front not behind?

In my view, the fatal shot clearly came from the direction of the grassy knoll, whether that be a location on the knoll or beyond it. LHS was the patsy used to form the official narrative. Jackie making the shot is disinformation IMO as with many other theories.

On Jack Ruby, found this extract on vigilant citizen site:

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In March 1965, a year after his conviction, Jack Ruby conducted a brief televised news conference in which he stated:

“Everything pertaining to what’s happening has never come to the surface. The world will never know the true facts of what occurred, my motives. The people who had so much to gain, and had such an ulterior motive for putting me in the position I’m in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world. ”

When asked by a reporter, “Are these people in very high positions, Jack?”, he responded “Yes. ”

According to an article in the London Sunday Times, shortly before he died, Ruby told psychiatrist Werner Teuter that the assassination was “an act of overthrowing the government” and that he knew “who had President Kennedy killed. ” He added: “I am doomed. I do not want to die. But I am not insane. I was framed to kill Oswald. ”

Ruby died from lung cancer shortly after these statements. According to Dallas Deputy Sheriff Al Maddox, Ruby had suspected that he was injected with cancer cells.

Jim Marrs book - “Ruby told me, he said, ‘Well, they injected me for a cold. ’ He said it was cancer cells. That’s what he told me, Ruby did. I said you don’t believe that rubbish. He said, ‘I damn sure do!’ [Then] one day when I started to leave, Ruby shook hands with me and I could feel a piece of paper in his palm… [In this note] he said it was a conspiracy and he said … if you will keep your eyes open and your mouth shut, you’re going to learn a lot. And that was the last letter I ever got from him. ”
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Regardless of the precise identity and location of the shooter - my take is the elite families of the USA were behind the assassination. They needed to over throw JFK because of his anti-central banking, anti-oil industry, anti-CIA, anti-Vietnam war tendencies (pick your favoured motive!). They set up LHS as the patsy, then Jack Ruby as the patsy's patsy. On the day itself they had at least one other marksman (possibly more) to ensure a 'successful' result. The elitists used their contacts held within cells of the CIA and other intelligence agencies, organised crime families, government puppets and the media to carry out the initial shooting and subsequent cover up.

This was a mass conspiracy on a par with 9/11 and would have required compartmentalised support within many agencies to pull it off so successfully.

I watched a very good documentary on this some time ago but it's hard to find as it was repeatedly getting taken down off youtube, if I find it I will post a link.

Sorry for the long post.

Harold

11 Oct 2014 12:25:19
There's just too much mess around the whole thing. I never bought into the Jackie part.

The Ruby angle is interesting but the mob's just covering tracks for someone else.

Mort

Jfk was the first political conspiracy I got in to even thou I am more in to ufo related stuff, as for the jackie k stuff I have found the more dissinfo you put out there the harder it is to find the truth, do I think the mob or someone else ordered ruby to kill oswald?, yes. Do I think oswald had the skill to make those shots?, no.

we all have different opinions which is good but 1 thing remains that can not be argued, history showed in Dallas 1963 the whole world not just the usa changed for the worse.

Ed002, would love to hear your honest opinion on it. You lived in San francisco for some time and your most likely American. You often only relay stuff as fact that you know which is great but you rarely include your opinion which I understand also particularly the majority of the time on football issues. I know this page isn't completely your bag, but would love to know what you genuinely think. If it wasn't your gun that was one fired that day who do you think was?

Supasub

Very good ed 002. "Nothing to see here. " I know what your saying ed. All I was saying was that it was refreshing that they were looking at some of the people who were a bit closer in. I still think myself that the exit wound in the footage appears to come more from the top of jfk's head which suggests at leaSt 1 shot from lower down somewhere. Maybe Jackie's hidden hand/purse?

Supasub

Yeah I used to smoke that stuff back in the day Ed002.

Ryan.

I believe the killshot came from the front of JFK to his left, and not from within the car as some have speculated. It was almost certainly a rifle. The Ford motor company confirmed that they replaced the windscreen. I think if you knew where the glass fragments landed, it would be easy enough to confirm the trajectory.

Ryan.

I reiterate, the majority of the worlds population is peaceful. A few countries have attempted to expand their imaginary borders or supplement their lack of a logical economy through violence. How that behavior can be justified and even admired baffles me.

Hate is a waste of energy. People who feel hate are those fixated with the problem and have never moved to envision a solution to it and then a world without it. I choose to work towards a world where the only muscles that matter are ones heart and brain.
zari

Zari you are probably right about democratic votes and my views are similar. In my op I put that I thought it was one of the "most democratic votes I've witnessed" and I still think it is. I still believe it was a lot more of a fairer vote than maybe 99% of the world. Only I think some people were excluded to vote in Scotland because of age but if you were a Scottish national living abroad or say in England then you weren't allowed to vote. I believe that was one of the only downsides. But if we are going back in time also Scotland had a good few pre-emotive invasions of England and Ireland. They even sailed to Panama to colonise Panama to try and control a global shipping channel. It failed. Had they been successful then they would have established a far reaching empire. As I said nearly all countries flex their muscles at some point but it's the successful ones that develope a dislike, resentment even hatred from others.

Supasub

Though I can not prove it, I believe there are no democratic votes in any of the so called developed countries.
Elections are manipulated by the establishment and their well placed pawns. Some proof to that exists but nothing of the scale to support the above mentioned belief.

Additionally, human beings can dislike ones behavior even if it does not directly cause them injury. Presented with proof that it does so to others, who they consider fellow human beings, some feel empathy or compassion.

The reason I mention Cyprus is because that is one place I regularly receive accurate information from.
zari

Zari. I don't have to read my post again and stop twisting the words in my post. I say a dislike from Scotland yet you start posting a "general dislike" and quickly go to the English military in cyprus.
I could probably pick any any country in the world and an incident in a given week or month and use it suit any argument. I have posted about a "democratic" vote in Scotland and a relationship between Scotland and England that no one has answered including you. There is nothing in my lifetime which has fuelled the dislike that I am aware of between the 2 said countries. I expect you will respond taking me around the world stating as fact any incident between whatever countries you pick and hit me over the head with it. Maybe read my post again zari and maybe offer a reason instead of trying to represent the globe.

You should probably read your post again then.

Something about a general dislike, resentment or even hatred towards England based on historical events, that happened before all our lifetimes and have not happened again for the last few generations.

That post was proof that what you stated was false. It has happened again and it is still happening.
One month ago the English military base in Dhekelia, Cyprus opened fire on a local fishing boat. They were clearly not trying to kill anyone because they didn't and were most likely trying to scare them for "fun".
The military base command said no such event took place and if anyone was shot at it was their fault.

People are pissed off at England because it is such an effective establishment tool. The fact that there are and have been others just like it, does not in any way justify it.
The majority of the world's human population are peaceful people. That said there are a few murderers out there as well.
Comparing ones self with the murderers in an attempt to justify ones own actions is only a step before mimicking them.
zari

Zari. Not quite sure why your trying to give me a history lesson on colonisation as none my post hardly refers to anything you are trying to lecture me on. I'm certainly not interested in England increasing the commonwealth (and yes I am aware what it is!) I am not pro-Europe and I am not pro globalisation. I just have my own beliefs and opinions based on my own persona.
We can all get information from anywhere and I doubt there is a country in the world that hadn't aggressively had an interest in another, certainly beyond England and the u. s. but you reserve your acute option for them
Supasub

I didn't say they would vote no franky. I was just pointing out that many of them wouldn't divulge which way they would vote or would be on social media sites. Someone voting for change imo is more likely to say they are voting yes rather than someone more prudent in their views say.

Supasub

Firstly, if Scotland had its own government it would at least be housed closer to home and would thus make it easier for people to go to the parliament building. Which in turn could instill some minor sense of insecurity to the corrupt politicians.

Secondly, I hope you are joking but England still occupies a lot of countries, though it chooses to "properly" refer to them as colonies.
As an example, they invaded Cyprus twice, once supposedly purchasing the land and its subjects from the French Lusignan and the second leasing it from the Ottomans.
They officially left the country in 1959 while unofficially they are still occupying it. They imposed a constitution on the country in 1960 and have also placed them under the rule of the crown.
In 1963 they reached an agreement with Turkey about them occupying 37% of the island and England maintaining their military bases. Turkey fulfilled its side of the bargain when they invaded the country in 1974. This map was leaked and as the line was drawn with green ink, it is what inspired the term Cyprus Green Line.
Additionally, the only two fresh water sources, on an island plagued by drouth, are where their two "sovereign" military bases are conveniently located.
Also, know that this is nothing as compared to what they did to China, India and most of the continent of Africa.

Thirdly, have you ever heard of the commonwealth games and what do you suppose they are?

This might sound harsh but you should return the queen her glasses.
The establishment is using England as a tool to oppress more than one third of the world. About one third through the US and the rest is mostly split between Israel, China and Turkey. Though Germany seems to be catching up fast again.
zari

I take on board the social network site votes with people over a certain age, not the rallies were the masses were out in force (not reported on msm)plus also mate I don't buy all business men and landlords would automatically vote no.

i have always got on with scottish people and it might be just me but working class cities like glasgow and liverpool have more in common than london and liverpool, but I am not your stereotypical english flag waving monarchy loving type of guy.