24 Oct 2021 08:53:33
Not been asked to say this, but I know it is what this site needs. Post from individual\'s minds.
Most of you that frequent this site Probably think I am some kind of nutjob. I assure you I am genuinely not. I just have a big mind capable of thinking beyond the \'curve\'.
Even if you think this site is all BS, you still have a voice and an opinion to which will be invaluable to this site. Question things on here you don\'t understand. Don\'t believe etc. It\'s not that anyone will pick on you, but maybe YOU have a thought or concept which would open many doors to others.
Surely everyone is for knowledge? share your knowledge even if you think/ believe it is a fault or unnoteworthy. Everyone\'s opinions create the whole. At the very least do something to mock us on here as we are clearly all insane. Right?
I don\'t mind a fun conspiracy, but many are just ridiculous. Any super weapon, population controlling, fluoride killing, vax causing autism and others are just funny to me because if you\'re rational and read academic journals and articles instead of YouTube videos, you\'ll see that.
Otherwise, I can say that the whole 9/11 thing was sketchy but there\'s no way they can hide that big of a conspiracy without it getting out.
Just my opinion, that\'s all we have I guess lol.
Has anyone that thinks C.V. is a conspiracy and things the vax is actually bad read any academic journals or peer reviewed stuff by scientists? i\'m just trying to understand people\'s perspectives on here because there\'s been over a billion vaxs administered and the data is overwhelmingly positive. Honezt question, do you guys think the data is false or have you not read them?
Hi and welcome to the site, Standard. Appreciate you posting and a great set of questions to ask. I didn\'t realise the extent of my time I would have to use to give you a proper thought out answer so that you understand why I think what I do. I am going to have to do a MSWord doc to make sure I don\'t accidently delete it using the posting system on this site (not criticising, Ed :) ) as I will spend over an hour doing it, if not more. Right at this moment I am just praying a REAL Manchester United team turns up so difficult to give you my full attention.
Now, don\'t think I am making excuses. I will give you a proper reply rather than a rushed half-arse one. I want you to understand my POV as you have stated you want to get a perspective.
Thanks again for posting, I like making myself think harder. Knowing and understanding something is completely different to being able to explain it so others understand. I just wanted to give a quick response so you know I will have a full reply to your questions, very soon. I hope that is OK with you? :) GGMU!
standard. its always positive when the public are only allowed to see what they want you to see. have you listened to the scientists who are speaking out against it who the main stream media censor and give no platform to. my aunt got blood clots from it my uncles mate was complaining about a sore arm for a week or two after his and chest pains then dropped dead of a heart attack. my mates big brother has just had a heart attack to all my family members who have took the vax have been ill ever since. and know its the vax that\'s did it to them and will not be taking boosters
as i says they will only allow you to see the data they want you to see and its not honest data. look at the real world mate the C.V. i see is economy\'s being forced to shut and the elite going for a power grab and stripping your freedoms from you and telling you the will allow you a little back if you take a vax and if not you will suffer these people are **** mate who are in power.
Standard, you mention about reading academic or peer reviewed papers. To understand the scale of the deception you need to go right back to basics.
Once you start to question and understand that the fundamental basics assumptions are incorrect then you can start to gain true knowledge.
We have all been where you are now but try to understand what you are saying. You are effectively saying that to change our opinion we should trust the very same scientists who we believe to actually have very little or zero understanding of what they are talking about.
A doctor bases his or her understanding on what they are taught at medical school. For example they are taught that viruses can be passed from person to person and somehow linger in the air just waiting for us to inhale them. They call this Germ Theory and it\'s absolute rubbish.
So, once the basics are incorrect then anything that is built upon that is equally flawed and dangerous. vaxs have and always will be useless and damaging and that\'s before we get to the current vax that is even worse for you, unproven, unnecessary, no upside and such a massive downside for many.
No one has died from cv19 or even got ill from it as it doesn\'t exist. People get ill from attempts to detoxify. viruses are our bodies own creation to fight bacteria, fungus and environmental toxins. Medicine makes wonderful sense when you understand terrain theory as opposed to the embarrassing nonsense science currently operates under.
I know two people with liver failure after the vax. I know a Bristol royal infirmary nurse who begged her 22 year old son to have it. A day later dropped dead. The liver ward is apparently packed out. My old mans mate had a blood clot behind his eye a day after the second dose, caused him to go blind for 10 days, now all he sees is double vision.
My wife is a night sister and covers the whole local nhs hospital. Beds have been removed over the last 18 months. She was all for the vax but won\'t be having her booster. Lots of liver issues giving strange level readings with people who\'ve had the vax including my mother in law who\'s never had liver issues.
We all tested positive including my kids and all had mild flu like symptoms but I lost taste and smell which is now coming back. I do remember when I was younger though getting a bad \"cold\" now again and not being able to taste much or smell at all. My wife was as bad as the rest of us if not slightly worse and she\'s had both Pfizer shots. Other nurses who\'ve had their boosters have felt even worse than the 2nd jab.
Hi Again, Standard. Apologise for the delay. Better just to forget yesterday from my POV : (
I\'ll do my best to give my perspective answer to your posts.
You say you don\'t mind a \'fun\' conspiracy but many are ridiculous. Does this mean any conspiracy that is not \'fun\' you automatically dismiss it? Just trying to get your perspective.
It also appears, although you find it \'sketchy\', 9/11 is too big a conspiracy to be just that, a conspiracy, without the info getting out? There has been a whole plethora of videos posted on this site, alone, not to mention others. I am not sure just how much information you need to get out to convince you that it is possible to pull off such a big conspiracy?
You say you are rational and read academic journals instead of YT videos. Some of the videos on this site, are from YT but that is so heavily controlled by the Elite now that we tend to use other videos sites with more freedom to speak something other than the mainstream rhetoric and pretty much all of them contain someone that has been through an academy and have been indoctrinated with the theories and belief system that best suit the Elites narrative but they haven\'t been able to accept blind scientific faith and have questioned the things academics should not ever question.
They then get censored and shunned from the industry they have spent their whole lives studying, just for being a free thinker and questioning the Elite belief system. Surely to be rational, you need to look at ALL the information to come to a scientific conclusion and not just the information you are told to blindly believe? (I have already uploaded a video so won\'t link it again, of a series of interviews with academics/ professors being questioned about their blind faith in Darwins theory of evolution, keep an eye out for that maybe you will see that people have been fooled in to thinking something is fact when it is not)
Now on to the C.V. data. Just on here alone you have United ireland and BLUEBOY1 giving you first hand experiences with just how bad the vaxxine is, now imagine if you heard of everyone\'s bad experiences? . Boris Johnson said the vaxx won\'t stop you catching, spreading or getting ill and going to hospital. So what is the need for the vaxxcine? There is a video on here showing where the effectiveness figures the Elites keep giving out, dropping off 1% at a time, now they are even reclassifying what it is to be vaxxinated? I don\'t know what you need to see to realise they keep changing their story to fit the narrative.
Tj70 mentions above about terrain theory. Have you looked into that? Here is a video from an academic, Dr Sam Bailey.
Germ theory vs Terrain theory
There is also other \'theories\' that you should look into
Exosome theory vs C.V. theory
url: bitchute.com/video/2ErTedhg0Sd4/
Ed033 often states that this is an advanced site and I paraphrase but it is a deep thinking site. None of us know what the REAL answers are, we just know what they are not. Maybe you don\'t see yet, that all of the videos on this site all relate to the one BIG conspiracy which almost makes 9/11 insignificant in comparison.
Do you believe we went to the Moon? What\'s your opinion on the Antarctic Treaty and the 60th parallel no entry point? Soon after which the \'Space Race\' was started to distract and take the attention away from there. Have you watched any interviews with Admiral Richard E Byrd explaining his explorations of Antarctica?
The only two things that ALL countries and governments agree on is Space and Antarctica. Why is that do you think? When they argue over pretty much everything else.
You asked if we believe the data being giving to us by those that control us and what we should believe in? Quite simply, no. IMO we aren\'t shown all the data. We have to look to those academics which are silenced to get the full picture. Are you aware of just how many people who are professional in their respective field, that are being silenced and losing their careers because they speak out against the MSBS?
As United ireland mentioned “it\'s always positive when the public are only allowed to see what they want to see”. Data sets can be twisted to fit any POV when you leave out a lot of context.
Thabks for your replies. I hope it was clear over text that I wasn\'t being sarcastic and genuinely wanted perspective so thankyou for that!
Firstly, that\'s sad you have all had bad experiences, buy recognise that you are in the minority. I have had the vax with Absolutely no side effects, in addition to my family, and 99 something % of the recipients of the vax.
There\'s also clear data indicating the people on hospitals are unvaccinated and only a very few are vaccinated. Again, clear, and large sample size clearly showing effectiveness.
I researched 9/11 a lot when I was 13 (8 years ago now) and thought super weapons were used on the towers thanks to this site, so I was well and truly down the rabbit hole. But it\'s pretty clear that nothing of the sort was used. Very clear. Building 7 was and is still a very shady subject, I will acknowledge.
Back to C.V. though and the peer reviewed journals, I know it\'s mainstream but it\'s literally peer reviewed. You\'ll get the odd person saying its all rubbish and C.V. is fake (which is very strange to say) but the majority and the smartest people among our population have done years of study and research into all this.
Sometimes you\'ve got to recognise you\'re not the smartest person in the room, a lesson I learned 8 years ago.
Also yes, we definitely landed on the moon, I don\'t see how that is even a conspiracy, nor flat earth lol.
So thankyou for your replies. It\'s very difficult to talk large discussions on this subject but I think it\'s pretty clear were not going to change each others minds. I do respect your opinion, as long as it isn\'t harming society (which anti vaxxers are doing) .
Cheers all! Hope none of this is perceived as disrespectful. Definitely not my aim. Thanks!
Like I said mate I used to come on here a lot.
No, not too advanced at all. I respect people\'s opinions but like I said, some people have an inferiority complex and don\'t believe there are people smarter than them, or, they like to believe the world\'s against them.
Again, it\'s interesting to look at and I genuinely did want some perspective, so I appreciate your response southern monkey.
Would be nice to talk to you lads in person but that\'s obviously impossible. Hope you guys are well but definitely cannot agree with anyone that doesn\'t believe research journals and peer reviewed research is the correct method of thinking. Cheers.
You haven\'t offended anyone, Standard. It is just a shame you spent the last 8 years falling back asleep but sweet dreams, all the same :)
\'There\'s also clear data indicating the people on hospitals are unvaccinated and only a very few are vaccinated.\' - I\'d love to see that data.
How is an anti vaxxer harming society?
Do you subscribe to the idea that the state/ government should have jurisdiction over your body? Would you like to see mandatory vaxs?
And thanks for clearing up the moon landings.
Ed033, this thread just demonstrates exactly what we are up against. Standard, came on here appearing to ask a genuine question but with no intention of listening.
Standard, how can you dismiss all the responses you got in less than a day, that just shows no willingness to learn. If you wanted to learn then it would take you months or years to appreciate what we are telling you.
How do you think that we have broken free from the brainwashing?
I\'ll tell you, we have all spent hundreds if not thousands of hours looking at events/ topics and alternative explanations, most importantly, simply thinking!
To believe we landed on the moon shows us that you have so far to go on your journey, if you can be bothered that is which I seriously doubt.
standard could you explain how anti vaxers are harming society in what way are we harming society wee took a choice our body our choice our god given right to refuse anything we do not want in our bodys. yet we will be left in poverty and to starve to death in a few months when we are banned from society.
As the OP I wanted to clear a few thoughts up.
“Standard, came on here appearing to ask a genuine question but with no intention of listening. ”
I did openly state to come on here and mock us, you could read his way of response like that, but more than likely genuinely steadfast in indoctrinated belief. No harm in that just a shame.
“some people have an inferiority complex and don\'t believe there are people smarter than them” this is a bit of an insult, Standard. No one has said on here that they are smarter than anyone else. Maybe You have mirrored logic and are trying to actually tell yourself a thing or two? I did say people wouldn\'t get picked on but statements like this are just rude, are they not?
“{Ed033\'s Note - We shouldn\'t waste our time on people who have already made up their mind and move onto people who are willing to take a look and have a think. ”
There has been no wasted time on this thread IMO, Ed033. Maybe a feeling of banging one\'s head against a wall, but the content within, which has two sides, may just help a few to wake up? I for one have enjoyed it. Great to here from like minds every now and again peeps and great to have unawake questioning so thanks for all the replies.
Standard, you say you don\'t believe anything us so called conspiracy theorists say about C.V. or the vax yet everything we have said would happen has actually happened.
now if you want to finally open your eyes go research death rate year on year and you will see we had more deaths in the 80s and 90s compared to this so called pandemic. now regarding the vax (it\'s not a vax as it doesn\'t give you immunity against the C.V.) it\'s an mRNA jab that\'s never been tested on human beings and while I\'m at it think about this you are blindly following Boris and co doing what your told getting experimental jabs for a C.V. no deadlier than the flu that by itself should be enough to wake you up.
Before they told people to get boosters
It was coming clear up to 60-70 percent in hospital was double vaxxed
Israel was or is 100 percent mRNA jabbed but CV still going
Only thing to change now
All those that had jabs
If they don\'t have booster
Go down as unvaccinated
So go on with you belief mRNA jab Is a Vax
For CV that doesn\'t affect most population
Also think back to when this started
Kids didn\'t catch or spread
But once they wanted to experiment on kids
Oh there now super spreaders lol
Nevermind experiment with humans and alter DNA
Whilst telling people it\'s a Vax
And hiding the massive damage and death
Chased by experiment
Delta did not exist before jabs started
But soon jabs happen so did delta show up
But where is the test that
Can tell the difference
And any mug that thinks two towers fell directly down
Not one of them topple over
That just says fast asleep
And moon look at the SR to the moon lander
And difference in cost to build.
And u thought the twin towers was brought down with dew tech
Because u read Judy woods book I guess.
Good thread
Enjoyed reading above from all.
I also know three people to have side affects. One with stroke like symptoms one with a blood clot. All have been told they don\'t know what\'s wrong with them but all heart and blood related.