Talk Sense discussion

04 Sep 2023 00:48:27
Hi, so I just wanted to drop in and say hi, used to frequent the site many years ago, when Zari (I think his name was began with a Z anyway) was a regular poster, not sure if he ever posts anymore. I had a different username back then by the way but I’ve forgotten the password.

Also just wanted to say thankyou to ED033 and the other posters of old (I think Scouse Duck Red is the only other I remember) who were the beginning of my waking up to this world and what it truly is. Also hi to Ed032 who I see is a regular poster here these days.

Anyway just wanted to post some things I’ve noticed over the years.

So there’s a term that gets thrown around a lot these days and that’s “Marxist/Marxism”, and I just wanted to give my thoughts on it.
So firstly I want to quote Marx himself and then discuss how this is applicable today.

“8. Literature and journalism are two of the most important educative forces, and therefore our government will become proprietor of the majority of the journals. This will neutralize the injurious influence of the privately-owned press and will put us in possession of a tremendous influence upon the public mind …. If we give permits for ten journals, we shall ourselves found thirty, and so on in the same proportion.
This, however, must in no wise be suspected by the public. For which reason all journals published by us will be of the most opposite, in appearance, tendencies and opinions, thereby creating confidence in us and bringing over to us quite unsuspicious opponents, who will thus fall into our trap and be rendered harmless.
9. In the front rank will stand organs of an official character. They will always stand guard over our interests, and therefore their influence will be comparatively insignificant.
10. In the second rank will be the semi-official organs, whose part it will be to attack the tepid and indifferent.
11. In the third rank we shall set up our own, to all appearance, opposition, which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipodes to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.
12. All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions — aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical – for so long, of course, as the constitution exists …. Like the Indian idol “Vishnu” they will have a hundred hands, and every one of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as required.
When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgment and easily yields to suggestion.
Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us.
In the vain belief that they are following the organ of their party they will, in fact, follow the flag which we hang out for them“

So reading the above passage it becomes obvious that under Marxism the aim is to control the minds of everyone. In the past this was achieved with newspapers but in the modern era it’s achieved using social media.
Not long ago I watched an interview on RT with a German journalist whose name eludes me now, and he was explaining how he was approached and coerced into writing anti Russian sentiments by a CIA agent. This was many years before the war and the man himself is now dead, (he died of cancer a few years after the interview, make of that what you will). Now this ties in with what I myself have seen happening on social media over the last 3-4 years. In my life I had a huge mental breakdown 4 years ago and was signed off work on long term sick. I spent most of my time in bed and watching social media. Oftentimes 14 hours a day. During this time I watched much sport and followed much sporting channels and I very quickly realised that they all tow the same lines. Not one channel out of the many many I watched ever deviated from a set narrative. On the surface they may appear to be of differing opinions and offer different points of view but underneath was an undercurrent of agendas being pushed, and the agendas were always the same and to someone who spent so much time watching these channels it became so clear that these channels I was watching were all controlled and being used to shape public opinion in the manner they desire, and they never fail. For example, if someone loses a fight in boxing that the establishment is trying to prop up they can easily swing public opinion using these channels to change the narrative from a negative one to a positive one, and vice versa. I’m going to give a recent example to those here to those who follow boxing. Recently a HW champion, Oleksander Usyk (he is a Ukrainian boxer) was dropped and hurt badly by a young British fighter who was billed as a huge underdog. This whole event was Ukrainian propaganda, it took place on Ukrainian Independence Day, and it was propaganda inspired from start to finish. Now the establishment could not have him lose as it would upset their propaganda, and the referee saved him and called a perfectly legitimate shot a “low blow”. After the fight the entire of social media was in an uproar as everyone felt as the shot was a completely legitimate shot and that the opponent was robbed of victory. This lasted a whole of 12 hours. Very soon after the usual suspects, who I fully expected to come out and defend Usyk and the appalling decision came out and did just that. These influencers completely swayed public opinion and now the narrative has completely changed and the vast majority of people have either been hushed by these highly influential people or have since changed their minds. A very prominent boxing channel kept asking the same question over and over on social media “was the shot legal or not” until they got the answer from the public they wanted. Now I know this is a very long winded and probably relatively insignificant example of Marxism in action, but the point I am trying to make here is that absolutely nothing in the public sphere these days is left to chance. Absolutely nothing; and as Marx wrote above they will have a hundred hands and all of them work together to shape public opinion. Now the point I’m trying to make here is if they will go to such lengths to shape the public consciousness over a boxing match, there is absolutely nothing they will not try (and almost always succeed) to influence.

People think that sport is left to chance these days. It’s not. Yes the outcomes may well be real, and the events themselves are not “fixed” (the majority of the time), but sport in itself is a massive tool in social engineering, and public opinion surrounding sport is not left to chance. Adults these days act like children on social media, and this is not by chance. This is because the public consciousness has been shaped in such a way that “trolling” has become commonplace and accepted as completely normal. Certain sports teams and figures are targeted and attacked and others are propped up, this is all social engineering and whilst I can’t say I fully understand the motives all of the time I can see the effects this has on the public, and how much society has changed over the past ten years since the dawn of social media.

Comment sections on social media are also never left to chance. They are heavily moderated either by people or so called “A.I. Computers”, and on the larger channels that get tens of thousands plus views then often times both. The amount of comments I’ve had deleted or shadow banned for simply going against the agenda has basically stopped me from even trying anymore. The comments that fit their agenda go to the top (so long as they currently have control of the narrative) and any that don’t fit their narrative are hidden at the bottom or simply deleted or shadow banned. This is an absolute fact and something that is verifiable. All you have to do is have multiple accounts and see where your comments end up.

Addressing what he wrote about someone losing their judgment when a pulse quickens, I have again seen this in action. Firstly I just want to say that I’ve read before that comment sections have far more influence of public opinion than the content itself (whatever that content may be, a tweet, a YouTube video etc), and of course those who make the content are well aware of this. So when they make a video for example they will headline it in such a way that they already know the reaction of the public. So for example they may seem to be in the video being impartial and reasonable, but they know the inflammatory title will “quicken the pulse” and cause a certain reaction in the comments. Its become so obvious to me over the last 3-4 years how these people operate and how futile it is to fight against them. This isn’t intended to be a nihilistic post by any means, but they have so much power and influence today, and the vast majority of people have absolutely no idea how they operate, that they can manipulate public opinion extremely easily.

Now finally I just want to discuss the motives of this. Firstly if you can control the minds of nearly every human being on earth you can get away with almost anything. If you can shape the human being into what you require them to be, whether that be a mindless drone, who is apathetic and completely passive, or a zealous and passionate warrior fighting the cause you have implanted in their consciousness you can manipulate the direction of the whole world. You can prop up governments, you can tear down anyone who stands in your way. This is a major reason “cancel culture” has become so prevalent in this modern society, so the powers that be can “cancel” anyone who is a threat to them. They control the vast majority of Twitter accounts, they control the vast majority of YouTubers. Anyone who is promoted on social media and gets a substantial amount of engagements is almost always controlled. Just like the German Journalist who was approached by a CIA agent and paid to write what they wanted him to write, the vast majority of social media “influencers” are under the same control. A few years ago I had a Twitter account that was gaining traction and I was using it to fight certain agendas I was seeing. I only had a few thousand followers but I was gaining traction, I was approached in my inbox by someone offering to purchase my Twitter account. I refused, as I knew what was going on immediately, a few weeks later I was locked out of my account and unable to recover it. As you can see they’re willing to go to those lengths for someone with a few thousand followers, so anyone who is not under ‘their’ control, whether financially or simply brainwashed and blindly following their narratives as Marx wrote ‘Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us.’, will be shut down.

Social media is a social engineering tool beyond anything that the world has ever seen and they cannot allow anyone to influence the public sphere. Of course I’m not saying trust no-one, as this can lead to insane paranoia, which having seen all this myself succumbed to at one point, but be very careful about who you don’t trust and what you listen to.

Anyway I’m sorry for the extremely long post but just wanted to share my experiences and views I’ve seen over the last few years, and hopefully this can help others to see the world and social media in particular in a new light. If you made it this far then thanks for reading. Much love. JE