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15 Jul 2016 15:02:28 I'm not saying I'm some sort of all known oracle of the real world and it's owners but surely people can scratch under the surface slightly and see the picture being painted by the media, governments, religions is 1 big mis information operation used to use people for their own gains.
15 Jul 2016 15:43:38 Religion. Politics. Entertainment . All exist to distract. Half the worlds talking about Pokemon Go rather than things that matter.
15 Jul 2016 02:31:07 Hey chaps, I remember reading something here about the flu vaccine but can't locate it now. Can you give me directions please?
{Ed033's Note - I'm not making any medical here just comprehend the following logic.
The flu vaccine is created each year way before the actual strain of flu is known for that year, so they can never create the correct actual strain.
Therefore if anyone has the flu vaccine, their body is in a lower immune state because it is fighting the injected flu.
This injected flu by itself kills a number of frail people each year especially old people.
Now if you happen to 'catch' the flu as well before your body has completely recovered from the injected flu, your body has to fight 2 flus at the same time, which will be tough on anyone, but will possibly kill frail people.
From the above logic, in my personal opinion, the flu vaccine is there to make the medical cartel lots of money each year and kills more people that it saves.
15 Jul 2016 22:45:24 Also where is the logic in giving someone last year's flu when they really should have this year's flu. As viruses mutate, you will never be injected with the correct strain using current methods.
17 Jul 2016 21:10:58 As a user of the flu vaccine for the past 10 years (except for 1), I can say the year I went without it my asthmatic problems were a lot worse and I was picked up illnesses more that year. Since I got back on it, I've been in very good health.
15 Jul 2016 08:58:19 First time poster but not new to the site. Wanted to know views on another attack in France. This is another in a long list of attacks but is this because their security is so lax or is France involved in something else that is being kept quiet. Why target France in particular?
15 Jul 2016 10:56:47 French intelligence services are poor. There's lots of racial/ religious tension in France that doesn't get reported. And the French role in Syria acts as a contributing factor.
15 Jul 2016 11:11:52 Kim, why are they so poor? is it a deliberate stance in which they and other 'shadowy' figures concur to allow incidents of this type to happen enuring tensions elevate?
15 Jul 2016 13:44:37 A lot of it is down to poor funding/ training/ technogy. They've been understaffed for years. They have a larger population with a larger ethnic subgroup a lot of whom have been radicalised. People complain about suspects slipping through the net but don't realise the resources needed to follow just one person around 24/ 7. Its beyond the resource capabilities of practically every agency on the planet. Even the KGB at its peak would have struggled. Although they'd have solved it by rounding up and executing all suspects.
It simply isn't practical to devote huge resources to constant surveillance and technology can't do everything. Then the human rights laws get used and the politically correct back off.
Then you get something like this and everyone automatically cries conspiracy and assumes an agency is behind it. Whilst at a very high level there may well be, at the smaller level often there isn't. Even where you know a certain person has certain sympathies you can't predict what they will do and when.
14 Jul 2016 18:23:30 Afternoon peeps. Been awhile since I posted but after reading a few threads below thought I'd share this.
I've said before that I live in Luton. The population here is probably the most diverse in the country. We have obviously English, a large Irish contingent ( my mum's Irish, Dad English) Polish, Albanian, siekh and of course, Muslim.
I'm sure you have seen the videos of Bury Park. I would go out on a limb and say the area is 80% Muslim. It has always been a Muslim area as long as I can remember. McDonald's got shut down there after protests as did the casino. You can imagine the uproar when Mecca Bingo opened there.
Anyway, I was in a park with my son. It isn't in Bury Park but about a 20 min walk. Lovely park. Big open space. Rivers full of ducks to feed etc. I had my son on a swing and a Muslim couple came over to me and told me to remove him as their son wants that swing. Obviously I told them to wait their turn but I was told that I am now in a Muslim area and it's time that me and my son left. I'm a pretty stubborn guy and told them to go forth and multiply. He then got his phone out and 10 mins later I had another 2 people with them screaming and shouting at me.
My son is 19 months. He could sense the tension so I decided to leave. Trust me, I would have lost it if my son and other children weren't around. I was told as we left that this is a Muslim town and to thank my lucky star's that I'm walking away.
Now I understand what people have posted underneath that it's been happening for years by different groups but until you have experienced that, with your child, you automatically form prejudices.
What's your guys views on this? I've lived in Luton all my life and never had anything like this. I seem to notice that they were all in their twenties/ early thirties. I find most Muslim elders quite respectful and approachable. Is it an age thing? Is it something drummed into them at mosques or is it something they've seen on the Internet and decided to copy it? Where has this all come from?
{Ed033's Note - Ultimately it's all by design and everyone is a pawn, plays their part and works for free in the controllers divide and conquer negative agenda. The politically correct people can point at the moderate, "respectful and approachable" muslims then think what you're talking about is just racist and nothing to see here, while the radical Muslims can work for free creating and expanding more muslim only areas all like the controllers want them to do.
And then the politically correct infected people can call me racist just for pointing out the obvious and we move step by step towards European countries becoming Islamic states one by one and the politically correct people can't see it because it's racist.
Just watch the main stream media continually pound us with the racist propaganda, so the agenda can continue unnoticed by half the population and those that can see it can't say anything because it's racist.
The radical muslims are radical by the same process that the radical politically correct people have become politically correct radicals.
All we can hope for is that there is a split in the elite to change the agenda.
14 Jul 2016 22:19:50 Cheers Ed. It's shocking how easily led most people are. I've tried my best to put this across without sounding racist but I know that some will say I'm being prejudiced. It's a pc nightmare. Pc is just a way to get people into a single track mind in my opinion.
{Ed033's Note - yes, the single track mind seems to be at the moment, are you racist or not racist.
but they've changed the definition of this word 'racist' to mean anything politically incorrect, and politically incorrect means anything that goes against their agenda. Obviously i'm generalising but people can get what i mean.
14 Jul 2016 23:25:29 ed33 is spot on as always And I'm very sorry to have heard this happened when you had your child with you must have been nervy But sorry to say I am not surprised as I have had and seen similar myself.
15 Jul 2016 00:53:18 People need to get rid of being political correct, speak up and say what they really feel, james you did the right thing. you had more respect for your child, a place where you grow up and then to be told by some other race this is our patch now. this kind of thing is starting to happen in ireland. there's churches and mosques springing up everywhere. and thers one not too far from me and I must say I was more than surprised to see a big crowd coming out of a place of prayer one evening, they pop up unnoticed. For me you respect the laws of the country you are in whereever it may be.
15 Jul 2016 02:13:47 Leahy if you were respecting the law of your country you would be standing outside the Dail making a citizens arrest every time a member of the present government stepprd out. They are amongst the most corrupt in Europe. You should also be actively campaigning to remove you country from the EU as at the moment it had your people enslaved, but don't let the opening up of a few mosques distract you.
You are aware of the terrible treatment of thousands of our people by the religious orders in our country? You are aware of their influence on the government in our country?
15 Jul 2016 07:07:22 James are you going to go back to the park? Bring a friend and record any attempt to remove you and post it on YouTube. They are the ones showing racial prejudice, not you. Imagine if you were in a predominantly Muslim country and you told them to remove their son as they were in a Christian area? You'd be lucky to get home in one piece.
14 Jul 2016 14:03:24 hey guys just giving you a update on what is going on in the labour party.
as you may know they tried to kick corbyn off the elected ballot which failed.
a private donor with links to labour friends of Israel might challenge his right to be in the election.
anyone who joined the lab party recently cannot vote even though it has it in writing that YOU CAN VOTE.
all clp meetings stopped until after the election, 80 per cent of labour clp are pro corbyn and could have deselected angela eagle and many of the mps who went against him.
125k new members joined (not all pro corbyn) but the majority were are now being asked to pay £25 to vote in a 2 day window next week .
i am doing grass root stuff which I cannot go into detail but this is a massive attempt to influence a vote because if corbyn wins, you will see the establishment mps kicked out on their arses and you will see grass roots local people standing as mps instead of career politicians parachuted in that studied in oxford and Cambridge.
i am going to repeat this again, this is not about corbyn, this is about people getting their voices heard .
also if corbyn wins and reshapes the party I could see him stand down and pass the baton to a more able communicator.
14 Jul 2016 16:08:55 Agree frankie, but it's important to mention that the vote to exclude the new members was taken after corbyn had left and without his knowledge!
15 Jul 2016 13:36:34 The Labour Party is dead Southampton . No matter how hard you squint I can't see them been a viable alternative for years, in fact I think they will just keep failing tbh. And that's the last thing people need is a conservative government for the next 3 decades.
15 Jul 2016 21:32:38 Sad to say you are probably right sanogo Personally I've never liked Blair or the Labour Party, I couldn't see why they where liked till you look back in history and that is no good for this period in time . Ukip look like they have a problem with infiltrators, I could be wrong and lib dems are syco lol And the cons are the cons . So it looks like the raving loony party it is! Are they still going lol?
14 Jul 2016 09:38:09 When everyone was surprised that Boris didn't go for that PM job, and now he gets Foreign secretary job, do you think he already knew all this was going to happen (getting the job, may as pm) as it was in a script? then that would mean the outcome of Brexit was always going to be a leave as they wanted it to be?
14 Jul 2016 16:30:45 It is a suprise, however, as one of the main Leavers, I think he will probably be around the table with David Davis (DD) negotiating the deal with the EU. Wonder whether DD will invite Farage (if at all possible) to aide him. The likes of Merkal, Junker and Schulz will of course make it difficult - they are awful, just like the rest of them bureaucrats - especially on the subject of 'free movement'. I hope they are strong enough to get the best for the UK. I believe DD wants to introduce a Candian style points system.
Additionally, I hear the Mayor of London and Nicola. S want a seat at the table also. Hope they are kept well clear of negotiations.
13 Jul 2016 20:14:22 Rory McElroy obviously knows there's a stink in world golf now you have fellow British golfers Faldo and Montgomery saying it's regrettable . Something smells fishy ðŸ .
13 Jul 2016 23:59:28 He won't lose any sleep over what those two say, but the real reason is not Zika, or a lack of respect for the Olympics. Rory has a huge sponsorship deal with Nike, and they rejected an approach from Pat Hickey to sponsor the Irish Olympic team, as they felt (rightly) that he was about to declare for Ireland. Hickey then went to New Balance and struck a deal for them to sponsor the Irish team.
Nike didn't really expect McIlroy to declare for Ireland as he had already intimated that he might declare for Britain. But in the end he declared for Ireland and suddenly Nike were faced with the possibility that he could be on the podium wearing New Balance gear.
In the end the diplomatic (some might say cynical) thing to do was to withdraw from the Olympics under the pretence of a concern about Zika despite Rory having said previously that he wasn't terribly worried about it.
In the last few days he has gone up in my estimation. The real politique of Northern Ireland culture can be very nuanced and confusing even for people who grew up on this island. Religion is very defining in terms of how you are identified, regardless of how you identify yourself.
Barry McGuigan is a good example of someone who tried to please everyone and ended up picking sides anyway. He is from Ulster, but he is not from Northern Ireland. Some of you may find that confusing but it is true. He is seen by some people as a man who effectively defected to the other side.
Rory McIlroy doesn't seem to want to discuss his religious or ideological beliefs publicly. He really only wants to talk about golf. He doesn't want to upset anyone who thinks he identifies with being Irish or British, as he knows no matter what he does in respect of Olympic representation he will be seen to take sides.
In the end Nike made the decision to withdraw from the Olympics an easy one for him.
13 Jul 2016 16:40:15 Want to reply to jimmyjones as to the black lives matter march in liverpool. He thinks we don't have race issues there, he's delusional and obviously too young to remember Toxteth!
13 Jul 2016 17:33:31 Actually I remember them well, an are I lived in got smashed up, what I was on about regarding black lives matter was, the race problem has never been anywhere near as bad as the states'even back in 60 70 early 80s, sure it's been rough at times, bit black lives matter'here, do me a favour, sometimes people March just to be seen to do it, and when did a black life matter anymore than any other race's. You do know people are being shamed on line for saying "all lives matter" wtf is that all about.
13 Jul 2016 21:46:22 The problem that I noticed about black lives matter is that it just creates a bigger division between the races. Not to mention the English defense league, BNP and any other neo nazis are going to react to there marches at some point or another.
{Ed033's Note - i think you'll find that when any group gets popular (EDL for this example) and makes it into the mainstream, it gets taken over and run by an intelligence service. You'll probably find that there is a core group that gets paid and then they try to recruit people from the public to attend a 'protest' every now and again.
When the intelligence service organises a 'protest' through one of these groups they also have a paid 'anti' core group (who also try to recruit people from the public by social media or whatever), who then meet up and protest the other 'protest' group.
The police are sent to keep the 2 protest groups apart while each of the core group gets a violent sounding short mantra shouting match going between the 2 groups (i.e. The core group of the group protesting the EDL type group will start shouting some mantra like, "racist scum off our streets" and the EDL type group will shout some short mantra back that sounds politically incorrect). They will have at least local main stream media there but there could also be national main stream media there as well.
if you've been recruited from the public, you go and work for the intelligence services for free (and won't even know it) and help keep the racist / fear mongering idea going in the public's mind who are watching it on TV who believe it's all real.
You also missed the undercover police who are there to monitor anyone who takes things too seriously and collect data to be used for blackmail.
{Ed033's Note - Yes i didn't add that undercover police are sent into both groups to both agitate/cause violence and to gather intelligence by talking to people in the groups.
13 Jul 2016 08:29:44 Areas such as this in parts of the UK apparentely?
{Ed001's Note - why is this in conspiracy? What a load of nonsense. There have always been gang controlled areas that the police are scared to go in. I guess you lot only notice when it happens to be a Muslims in the gangs, as opposed to drug dealers.}
13 Jul 2016 10:10:17 Funnily enough I agree with Ed001 here, The government and police force is just another gang as well, they are all as bad as each other, they just have different rules between their organisations. "Isis" killing an unarmed civilian is just as bad as the bloods killing a civilian or the cops killing or the columbian cartel or the Army killing an innocent person. We seem to be told who to hate more, without seeing the bigger picture that we need to stand against all of it.
13 Jul 2016 11:15:17 Becuase BBC haven't reported this Becuase EU blocked and ordered and payed for this not to be shown There are two sides to everything And I agree these ain't what people call moderate Can I ask where in England Christian gangs or the like have done this Without being stopped or brought down And where in England at this second Do they think police won't go Obviously police are the govts gang.
13 Jul 2016 11:39:38 And I don't know why people keep repeating about the police in uk This was in Sweden I'm never going to be a fan of these police Because I have unlike others got arrested and had fake evidence produced to have me took off the streets for a couple of years here and there when I was younger and more stupid.
But I also see wings full of sex offenders In prison Also many murderers And thousands of plebs But out of all them together at least 70 percent where convicted rightly I say because people in uk jails love to tell there stories.
Apart from the nonces that have an extremely easy time on a easy wing It's the police that put them there Not all police officers no matter how much I would like to say are corrupt but many are. The real corrupt ones are CPS and judges.
This is how even though you have two witnesses and a lot of evidence against a famous sex offenders And they walk Cps allows charges to be fiddled and judge allows
Then there are the massive corrupt police that where involved in hillsborough and covering up of sex abuses.
13 Jul 2016 11:52:44 southhamton87, this is happening all over the country pal the police have been using gangs from different areas for years to control everything and the goverment to them as you said.
the ones that get away with it are the ones who are at the top and use the smaller gangs to keep media/ public eye away from them
liverpool, manchester, london, west/ east of scotland. they're everywhere
the muslim/ christian/ yardie/ european/ irish/ asian. whatever gang thing has just been created for chaos and to scare the public.
{Ed033's Note - Scores of new gangs and scores of new muslim only areas in Europe all by design with government collusion can't be a good thing.
Something to think about in general for the 'awake' people is: what the controllers want and we should avoid is arguing over political correctness or minute details. The controllers are gong to keep playing the racist card over and over again to divide and conquer everyone.
12 Jul 2016 20:21:56 MSN news just had an article there, saying " UK may have broken law with EU referendum" . Is this the globalists elite and Rothschilds banking cartel trying to get UK back? The only reason I can think I that they're trying for more financial control.
12 Jul 2016 21:45:15 This just smacks of desperate grasping by those who control the continent, the sooner this brexit issue is put to bed the sooner we can get on with running our own ship, we have a chance now with all the upheaval to go our own way, hopefully we have strong enough mps in Westminster who truly want rid of brussels'if we crack then the game is up, we won't have this opportunity again.
13 Jul 2016 10:11:53 Its all over the place to cause a bigger rift between the two camps. The more tense and angry they make us the more easy they can use us.
12 Jul 2016 17:30:59 What are peoples thoughts on the following which has been reported by the BBC (note, this is just an extract of what is being said)
"The Bank of England governor has said it is "important" that he and Chancellor George Osborne are allowed to have private meetings.
However, Mark Carney has agreed minutes of their private talks on Brexit may be examined "discreetly" by MPs"
To me, it sounds like some very dodgy dealings to commence with MPs that are remainers. Imo, they'll only allow remainer MPs to 'discreetly' examine the private talks. Anyway, if true. overall, this is shoddy behaviour.
12 Jul 2016 08:41:01 Its sad to think we are still freer now than we will ever be in the future! we might as well use this to our advantage now before it is completely undermined.
12 Jul 2016 09:15:12 Sad indeed, and the majority of people can't see it happening, much too busy getting brainwashed by msm &the establishment. My 12 yr old son has started asking questions about things he's learning in school history related stuff, and I'm having to give him an alternative outlook on those things in an attempt to get him to question what he's being taught to find out differing sources of information'and to make his own conclusions, if we can get more people aware then maybe we can stop or at least slow down rot.
12 Jul 2016 17:14:01 If your son questions it in class there will be a good chance of suspension and if he keeps asking questions there is a good chance you will get a call off the social services. I know I once questioned whether Martin Luther King really had a dream and got kicked out of school for the day lol.
12 Jul 2016 21:50:05 I'll take that chance'atleast he will grow up with a more rounded view, which I think is important' he's a bright kid so he will see what's what eventually anyway, I was force fed the usual as a kid, as most of us were' I'm determined it won't happen to him without him getting other information as a balance.
