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08 Jul 2016 13:22Discussion #9537Talk Sense

08 Jul 2016 14:11:01
Oh good one Cameron, just antagonise Russia before you step down, very clever. Sow the seeds for the next war, you abhorrent bellend.

jimmyjones08 Jul 2016 14:03

08 Jul 2016 14:38:30
Great isn't it'he's too scared to invoke article 50 but he will happily send troops off to antagonise Russia before he slopes off into the distance, is this his last chance to be seen as a strong statesman who took no pisoners lol or could be this be a way to get the sheeple to start screaming even louder about us needing to stay in the Eu for the safety of everyone whilst dealing with the wicked"Russians"
Just a thought.

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08 Jul 2016 12:38Discussion #9966Talk Sense

08 Jul 2016 13:37:44
MSM is a joke . The headlines all over the MSM read white police officers shoot black males. I frankly don't give a hoot what colour they are nor should anyone, the story should be about UNLAWFULLY killing by those gang enforcers on civilians, not about what colour the civilians are. Its obvious a way to turn people against each other, divide that population.

Mr.x08 Jul 2016 14:03

08 Jul 2016 14:41:19
I saw the video of the Alton Sterling shooting in America, its sickening to watch. Two officers have him on the ground and one officer shouts gun then the put a number of shots into him, stand up then put two or thee more into him. The American police know how to get away with such actions they just shout gun before opening fire and that seems to justify the death of a subdued man. There was a black lives matter march on the streets just after were shots were fired from the crowd, they hit no one but it sends a clear message to the government. The population will fight back if unjustified shootings continue.

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jimmyjones08 Jul 2016 14:03

08 Jul 2016 14:46:07
Agreed, colour shouldn't come into it but unfortunately it does, white liberals are empowering black lives matter'well you know what'they matter no more than a white man's or an Asians, when a white man gets killed by the police in the US you don't see people on the streets protesting and rioting, and more whites get shot and killed by the US police than any other race'yet they don't commit as many violent crimes as other races.
And I'm not saying whites don't commit violent crime.
I'm sick to death of hearing all of this dived and conquer bs that is being spread by the media'the sooner people start waking up to this the better'that goes for black and white.

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southampton8708 Jul 2016 14:23

08 Jul 2016 15:17:17
Just the fact you can go on youtube
And see many happen in this last year
Most have been black victims
100 percent un defendable murder
But some white too
It's just mental
Then they try say stay with me buddy lol
Mate on the video you see his blood pumping from his chest but know eye movement he still handcuffs him
And the pig has the cheek to say stay with me buddy

Thing is go jail in America and there is a massive chance
1 you get longer for things you have to do in jail
2 end up dead
3 manage to some how finish sentence and get out
When your light at the end of the tunnel is removed or unlikely many people give up on life becuase the wing becomes your life
And if somehow you can control a certain trade
You new limited life is a little better
So things go from bad to worse
Never bad to good
And it gives you a bigger reason to not go prison in the first place
But you still need money to survive
Then on the other hand
Let's say your not a bad person
And you think for a career I'm going to be a cop
You have kids and a wife
You know there on your mind and you wish to return
You also know any pertential criminal could stop that
You also know most have a gun and will not hesitate to turn and shoot you at a blink of a eye
Wot do you do?
It is something that can in truth only be stopped if guns are not a threat
But can people in America afford to have no gun for defence?
When I first watched them my first reaction was anger
But when you think of the whole picture it a lot different .
And your right colour does not matter we are humans
But I think it becomes like that becuase
The majority of bloods crips you name the gangs are black
So the straight humans that are black are being affected the most.
But like said before most I have seen are indefensible
And seem very pre meditated.

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07 Jul 2016 22:30Discussion #9948Talk Sense

07 Jul 2016 23:17:33
Oh my word guys, I couldn't make this up if I tried. After all the upset that's been going on regarding brexit vote MSN news have an article talking about how Britain may lose its favourite snack, the pork pie. Yep you read it correct THE PORK PIE! This must be some sort of distraction story to try and turn peoples attention away from Tony Blair. Why such a stupid story, is this a smokescreen? Or a very silly attempt at a smokescreen.

{Ed033's Note - The mindless ones will probably lap it up and forget all about Blair.

southampton8707 Jul 2016 23:03

08 Jul 2016 00:03:09
Lol good one.

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Mr.x08 Jul 2016 02:12

08 Jul 2016 02:28:56
There must be too much fluoride in the water or the masses are eating toothpaste if they accept things like that in the news. But serious question here. Are the masses really in some sort of numbed down hypnotic state not to pay attention to what's really going on in the world, are me and the people I call "awake" just paranoid or mad. I find the people nowadays are like cattle just blindly following stupid trends and wasting days of there week watching mind numbing reality tv and glued to pathetic idols like the kardashians on facebook, always distracted from the important things in life and kidding themselves on that the world doing just fine.

{Ed033's Note - And they watch Newsnight and Question Time and think they're all clued up on what's going on.

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KimPhilby08 Jul 2016 17:05

08 Jul 2016 17:57:28
And surely you'd lose scotch eggs with Indy Ref 2.

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southampton8708 Jul 2016 19:22

08 Jul 2016 20:15:12
Nooooo not scotch eggs and pork pie
This will start riots forget EU lol.

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07 Jul 2016 21:55Discussion #9423Talk Sense

07 Jul 2016 21:56:58
If the elite did in fact stage a false flag on Paris could they conceivably 'fix' a major international tournament as reparations?

{Ed033's Note -

southampton8707 Jul 2016 23:06

08 Jul 2016 00:04:55
Yh that penalty was deffently soft and agaist the flow of play
Last thing they won't is France getting bounced by Germans
Labour riots would go overdrive lol.

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Supasub08 Jul 2016 01:19

08 Jul 2016 01:34:07
And yet for the apparent lack of security surrounding the outside of grounds at the French euros (russian fans extremely and to a lesser extent just drunk english fans) a few months ago people tried to blow up stade de France. Yet not even a murmur of any trouble concerning terrorism at the tournament.

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southampton8708 Jul 2016 14:27

08 Jul 2016 15:22:05
Lol I know supa
It amazing
Don't you think it's just (lucky)
Lol.

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GracieBhoy08 Jul 2016 17:05

08 Jul 2016 17:43:00
Emmanuel pettite said in an interview he believed the 98 world cup win was a fix.

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southampton8708 Jul 2016 23:29

09 Jul 2016 00:07:05
Lol Gracieboy
Wasn't that in France to.

{Ed033's Note - yes 1998 was held in France. The host country can control things so has an advantage. The England team were apparently helped out in The 1966 world cup held in England.

Also happens in the Olympics, 2012 was team GBs best medals haul, i think,

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07 Jul 2016 11:45Discussion #12085Talk Sense

07 Jul 2016 12:25:11
With all this recent upheaval, I haven't seen so much political turmoil since Thatcher and the miners, I'm thinking why? why now? why all at once? . Does anyone else think this all happening together could be deliberate? Is something being slipped under the radar? .

southampton8707 Jul 2016 17:08

07 Jul 2016 17:58:12
I think a lot is where the PC brigade got burnt by EU along with the Biased Broadcasting Center, so they are magnifying it.

Blair is the biggest one that needs to fall for what he has personally done. And what does get me, if you admit guilt in anyway, a court will find you guilty
Blair in no way in a good or decent place would get away with this. I hope even more wake up when he doesn't fall.

P.s. there is a website that is offering a reward if you citizens arrest him.
I know it's going to hurt lol, but I'm having me some pennies for that, even if I do get dropped by security :-)
Last payout was Â£2000, BBC kept that quiet didn't they.

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GracieBhoy07 Jul 2016 20:53

07 Jul 2016 20:39:12
When I see people talking about politicians etc I can't help but think why be annoyed by these people, they are controlled, whatever tptb want to happen they will make happen, so why do we still say blair this blair that they are all the same anyway.

The faces that hide a darker agenda, I don't feel any hatred to them as
they don't have any say in anything really.

Hope people understand where i'm coming from.

{Ed033's Note - Certainly do, but if by some miracle someone such as Tony Blair or someone similar was to get a huge sentence (if you know what i mean), it would send a large message to other politicians that they are now accountable and if they commit something terrible, they may have to pay a big price for it.

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GracieBhoy07 Jul 2016 21:55

07 Jul 2016 22:05:10
Ok ed yes I see what you mean never thought about it like that. I guess my view just stems from the fact that they could easily just replace these people if they aren't willing to follow the agenda, its almost like a perpettual pessimism I have when it comes to government etc.

{Ed033's Note - The biggest problem we have is getting the mindless masses to realise that there is an 'Elite' controlling politicians/governments.

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southampton8707 Jul 2016 21:55

07 Jul 2016 22:14:52
But if we just ignore the ones that do this type thing they go unopposed
And I personally think Maybe wrong
This puppet colluded and planned with the other puppets
They are a couple of very few that are aware what they are doing
So they do get at me
But you are right in what u say as no need to get aggravated
But there is no chance in hell I will
Speak nicely about these people.

{Ed033's Note - We should do crowd funded bounty hunting on these diabolic criminals similar to what you said above, southampton.

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southampton8707 Jul 2016 23:21

08 Jul 2016 00:06:21
It would turn up the heat on these people ed
Something needs to happen.

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06 Jul 2016 23:04Discussion #11856Talk Sense

06 Jul 2016 22:27:30
Ed/ anyone. I'm pretty much 99% sure Dr kelly was assassinated. I'm a little swayed in thinking that Robin Cook was too. Both obviously interpreting information differently regarding going to war in Iraq. Just what's happened in the last day has brought it back to me. What's your thoughts?

{Ed033's Note - All Dr kelly did was to say Blair lied, but the problem was he was an insider and insiders aren't allowed to talk to the media because they know a lot. They killed him because otherwise it would of given the green light to other insiders to come out and talk to the media and sooner or later someone would start telling the truth. so they killed Dr Kelly to send a message to other insiders to keep quiet and never talk to any media.

Robin Cook was killed exactly the same way as Labour leader, John Smith was, using a heart attack 'gun' which sends microwave energy to the victim to stop their heart. Both Robin Cook and John Smith were on walking holidays when they were murdered.

It was thought that John Smith wouldn't go along with the Iraq War and weapons of mass 'distraction' (as Tony Blair once said in error). The control group knew Tony Blair would go along with the whole Iraq war fiasco after Blair went to the Bilderberg meeting just before John Smith's murder.

Robin Cook (a millionaire author who didn't need the money from being an MP) was about to reveal that there was no discussions within the cabinet and Tony Blair just dictated to the cabinet what was to take place (with Tony Blair being told what to do by Blair's handler). So they took out Robin Cook permanently to prevent this coming out.

Mr.x06 Jul 2016 23:58

07 Jul 2016 00:53:03
Yep, that's what they call democracy haha. Sometimes you look at these cases of suspected assassinations and just think we're not much better off than countries that live under a dictatorship or communist rule. If the truth can't be revealed by the people we trusted to put in power then are we that different from the governments and regimes we call bad if we just give in to corruption and corporate greed. While all the time we hide under the veil we call democracy and that somehow makes us feel better. TRUE democracy would be great but power, greed and corruption will always come out on top if the masses don't wake up.

{Ed033's Note - yes, most people believe in the illusion of democracy but we're actually living under a dictatorship (that currently uses the velvet glove if you think and do exactly as the government wants you to think and do.)

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Supasub07 Jul 2016 00:14

07 Jul 2016 01:06:48
Funny you mention John Smith ed. I posted about this a couple of weeks ago when the whole brexit thing was going on. I was quite young when he died but my step father who was a socialist at heart but had always voted tory for as long as I remember mentioned him as someone who would get his vote for whatever reason, what little I know gave the impression that he was as honest as they came in a politician sense and was fairly genuine. My parents brought me up to believe that in general politicians were untrustworthy and some more untrustworthy than others. If there were any honest politicians then they were very few and far between but he appeared to maybe be one of them. Then just as he takes leadership (I think) he dies of a heart attack and Blair is thrust before us. On another note how does Alistair Campbell not even get a mention today? He just makes me feel dirty when I see him or hear him speak. Add Mandelson to that too.

{Ed033's Note - yes, there are a few good non corrupt MPs always about and John Smith was apparently one of the good ones and therefore as we know Tony Blair did so much harm as the Establishment wanted, it's highly likely John Smith would never had gone along with all the evil stuff, so from their point of view, John Smith had to be removed permanently.

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Rian07 Jul 2016 15:17

07 Jul 2016 15:48:02
I think you're right about David Kelly.

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southampton8707 Jul 2016 16:53

07 Jul 2016 17:46:14
Yes, and I've heard quite a few different accounts of the directed energy 'gun' being real.
If I remember right a clever man / scientist called John Hutchinson had a big one on his van lol.
But he just can't get funded for his science, basically been cut off. no one invests in him because he is on the same line as tesla.
I even think he may have worked with him. don't know for sure as I can't remember if it was him that said this.

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southampton8707 Jul 2016 16:55

07 Jul 2016 17:51:13
Also there are many people to have claimed to be T.Is (targeted individuals) in America and a couple in Britain.

Also on a side note the tetra system the police use, works on a dangerous frequency / microwave that interferes with the chemical process in your body making you depressed. This can in theory back up claims of directed energy weapons being possible.

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06 Jul 2016 21:10Discussion #9863Talk Sense

06 Jul 2016 22:08:44
May be nothing in it but looks like all the main parties are going to have female leaders and possibly a female president also Mrs Merkel.
Are they the best candidates or is there another reason? As Kezia Dugdale is a beaut and Ruth Davidson ain't far off her. Pretty sure there would be better candidates in the parties!

{Ed033's Note - Mrs Clinton

Mr.x06 Jul 2016 23:17

06 Jul 2016 22:26:12
Just a silly remark but how funny would it be to see Donald trump as president. The guy is no politician hees a comedian. It would probably have catastrophic consequences for the country and the region but all in all it would be hilarious until lives are lost, then I would stop laughing.

{Ed033's Note - Donald trump is no fool, he's just beaten the entire Republican machine. You obviously believe the mainstream media crap about him.

i would expect the Electoral College vote (and therefore the Presidency) to go to Mrs Clinton as she is the Establishment's choice out of her and Trump.

If by some miracle Trump won the Presidency, he would probably have to get things enacted using executive orders as the majority in the House and the Senate who are completely corrupt and under the thumb of the Establishment would fight him on everything.

If Trump does anything the Establishment really don't like, he may have to be publicly shot at in order to send a message to anyone else that the President does as they're told, or else.

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KimPhilby07 Jul 2016 10:32

07 Jul 2016 11:24:49
Trump might be an egotistical blowhard but he's no fool.

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hsf07 Jul 2016 13:57

07 Jul 2016 14:40:28
Trump will probably win the election, but Clinton will be pushed in on the fix I think.

I can see another repeat of the alleged black votes going missing a few elections ago.

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southampton8707 Jul 2016 17:11

07 Jul 2016 17:59:47
I do hope trump wins most I speak to online say they want trump to win.
But that is as reliable as the famous polls.

{Ed033's Note - Trump may win the Popular Vote but that's why the U.S. election system has the built in Electoral College [rigged] vote. The Electoral Vote should be rigged for Mrs Clinton to win it.

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southampton8707 Jul 2016 23:21

08 Jul 2016 00:08:55
Oh right got ya
I'm not to clever when it comes to the workings of American politics
But your right the groups I speak to trump would be more of a popular candidate.

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06 Jul 2016 21:10Discussion #9785Talk Sense

06 Jul 2016 21:56:38
So Branson had a meeting with Teresa May.

jimmyjones06 Jul 2016 23:04

06 Jul 2016 22:24:04
We are now starting to see just how scared people like Branson are, these people have everything to lose and they won't give up and accept defeat without a fight.
The majority won they should deal with it.

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Onceared07 Jul 2016 18:38

07 Jul 2016 19:32:31
I don't think Branson is scared, at the end of the day he is still going to be filthy rich. I think it's more a PR stunt to show he is on the same side as remainers so no one decides to boycott his products based on his views.

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southampton8707 Jul 2016 23:21

08 Jul 2016 00:12:21
Yes red has a point the establishment love to use
Celebrity type or popular rich type to suggest a way of thinking

A funny one for me is the public don't understand Europe in or out
But when we vote out
It's them that struggle to realise what out means lol.

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06 Jul 2016 13:58Discussion #9654Talk Sense

06 Jul 2016 14:25:22
The fiend that is Tony Blair, the only thing's missing are the horns on his head, just how well protected is this diabolic degenerate, even now he can't see that what he and the retard Bush did was wrong and that we are still suffering the fallout from his shameful bloodlust, the sooner this hellion is in a box the better off humanity will be.

Mr.x06 Jul 2016 20:57

06 Jul 2016 21:48:45
Probably backed by big business, America and multiple intelligence agencies. The Intel on the Iraqi war was flawed and exaggerated in order to sway the public into backing an invasion. The powers that helped him probably won't let him take the fall because they made a ton of money out of oil, defence contracts and the rebuilding of the country.

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Rian06 Jul 2016 23:04

06 Jul 2016 23:01:40
KP mentioned recently that he was rumoured to have worked with Christians in Action. It makes sense.

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KimPhilby07 Jul 2016 08:23

07 Jul 2016 08:07:59
The Intel on Iraq came from a source who basically fabricated everything. What was it the report said, descriptions of weapons were more like Hollywood films versions than actual ones.

The point being who was this source. Did they just pay some random Iraqi to talk nonsense that they could pass off as genuine as they were so desperate to launch military action.

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KimPhilby07 Jul 2016 09:01

07 Jul 2016 09:52:24
Bit of an old link. David shayler: Tony blair was an mi5 spy

goo.gl/9ja8nR

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KimPhilby07 Jul 2016 16:13

07 Jul 2016 16:49:58
It does make sense. Although I think he was more a joint venture between 5 and the Boys from the Farm. He's certainly had a huge effect in crippling the labour party.

I tend to usually take Shaylor with a pinch of salt as he has a tendency to inflate himself. But 5 has always been (rightly) obsessed with the communist influence in the labour party. If I remember correctly Shaylor's first job at 5 involved getting current and prospective labour candidates for the forthcoming general election on 1992. The Wall had come down, the satellites were free and USSR was in its death throes and the hunt the red under the bed game was still on.

I was part of a joint Lubyanka/ Foreign service delegation over here at the time in the months running up to the GE'92. Reassuring our friends in the trades unions and labour party that even though the USSR was gone Russia remained a friend. Blair at the time was being talked about as the rising star and a viable candidate for a junior ministerial role if Kinnock had won. And groomed for higher. It was my colleague that managed to get a brief chat with Blair. As I recall he wasn't impressed.

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06 Jul 2016 03:06Discussion #9947Talk Sense

06 Jul 2016 02:20:24
I knew we were going to exit E.U. I read an article about a dinner the queen hosted and she said. and I quote " give me three good reasons to stay in the E.U.? " Big Liz is the sole authority of this backwards island. She is a high level mason and operates within that network. Eg. When she came out the hospital and was saying her goodbyes to the nurses look at the nurses belt, its the masonic badge/ logo. These people really do live a different reality than us, they are THEE shadow government that rules us and on this island big Liz is our master. The world is a stage and we are the audience. People need to wake up and start asking the difficult questions about who really is in charge. I'm certain whatever research you do big Liz and her offspring will lie at the bottom of the truth of our reality.

KimPhilby06 Jul 2016 07:20

06 Jul 2016 08:06:38
I'll reverse that. If "big Liz" has so much power and is anti-EU then why did Britain join in the first place? What changed her mind to leave?

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Mr.x06 Jul 2016 12:07

06 Jul 2016 12:51:29
If u think about it she obviously had prior knowledge of the one European army and the change to article 50. I'm not saying she rules the world but she is the authority on this island, therefore put her foot down so to speak and took her island back before the rest of the powers that be eg. Brussels bind them into political entrapment. I think there is power struggle going on between the world elites and she is either making a stand or politically attacking the E. U. by starting a trend of referendums for other countries to leave.

{Ed033's Note - If 'Big Liz' is the 'sole authority' why does she get told where to go and what to do?

It's more likely that there is a split in the ruling class and she has powerful backers now as some of the ruling class have figured out that they are in trouble themselves if they don't make changes.

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hsf06 Jul 2016 14:52

06 Jul 2016 13:51:32
Royals are nothing more than a tourist attraction now.

{Ed033's Note - It depends on who you mean. This thread is about the Queen not lower level 'royals'. The Queen is more powerful than most people realise, but less powerful than a few people think.

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Sanogolovesbentner06 Jul 2016 15:59

06 Jul 2016 16:51:27
You really don't like big Liz do you mr X! She obviously has some sway but I don't hate anyone for having some antique birth right. If balls were bigger then maybe your brethren wouldn't need to care at all! But as it stands.

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Mr.x06 Jul 2016 20:57

06 Jul 2016 21:40:29
I don't really bother with Liz to be honest plus a lot of Scotts did vote independence you say my "brethren" like your talking about the whole country. A good percentage of people think the vote was rigged anyway, even if it wasn't just less than half the country wanted to break away from U. K. and its common knowledge that Liz had her speech ready before the result. As I said earlier prior knowledge to what's going to happen. Balls my friend, Balls is having the courage to ask for a referendum and step into the unknown as a small country. Lack of balls is when you open your country up to the world and let them take your houses, jobs and benefits. Not meant in a racist way but we ain't got housing, Job and migrant problems as bad as the English. The world walks all over Britain and especially England.

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05 Jul 2016 11:20Discussion #9784Talk Sense

05 Jul 2016 12:13:07
At the moment, Article 50 allows an EU Member State to formally withdraw from the EU by giving two years notice to the relevant authorities. However, as from March 31st 2017 Article 50 will be subject to the Qualified Majority Vote (QMV That means we will have to persuade a total of 14 EU Member States to support our decision to leave.

HP05 Jul 2016 11:34

05 Jul 2016 12:31:13
Once the new PM is in place, they had better trigger it this year, if not, total uproar ensues me thinks. Can the 1973/ 5 decision be repealed?

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jimmyjones05 Jul 2016 11:37

05 Jul 2016 12:36:01
Funny that hasn't been widely discussed on msm news programmes.
Could this be what the stalling is all about?

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HP05 Jul 2016 11:45

05 Jul 2016 12:41:09
Btw, that's very crafty regarding the QMV, that is never going to work, and they know it. Hence, each member state is sucked in for a very long time.

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southampton8705 Jul 2016 15:28

05 Jul 2016 16:13:01
Yh this is why people have said this is the only chance to get out
And we are the only ones that can make this happen
They are not going to pull out of this
Have our troops been pulled out of EU
Have they even looked like there doing as told or asked of them
How many have we now heard it's only publics opinion
It's up to us to act on it and force it through
Or we deserve what we get
I mean if we can't help ourselves out then why do we deserve anything.

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KimPhilby05 Jul 2016 16:01

05 Jul 2016 16:59:30
Remember who your dealing with. Every trick in the book is in play.

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05 Jul 2016 08:07Discussion #12084Talk Sense

05 Jul 2016 08:46:02
The Texas call for independence seems to be gathering some wind. The disintegration of the US from within is a possibility.

Rian05 Jul 2016 10:19

05 Jul 2016 11:08:28
A few thousand people out of a population of 20 odd million. I don't see it happening to be honest. If they're willing to start wars half way around the world to get their greedy hands on fossil fuels, they're hardly going to wave goodbye to their own biggest source of it at home.

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KimPhilby05 Jul 2016 16:07

05 Jul 2016 17:03:48
I believe the current signatures on the petition was 236000 earlier. Around 1% of the Texas population. That figure will pick up. If it came to a vote and Texas did secede it would be the largest constitutional crisis since Watergate.
If, and obviously its a huge if, Texas voted to leave what could the Federal government do. This isn't 1861 and there isn't a pretext to fight a civil war. The entire union would fracture.

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Rian06 Jul 2016 03:06

06 Jul 2016 01:29:52
It's not going to happen KP. Not a chance. But if it did, it wouldn't be the largest constitutional crisis since Watergate, it would dwarf it.

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KimPhilby06 Jul 2016 07:54

06 Jul 2016 08:30:16
Well the largest of course was 1860-61 but none of us were around. I also don't think any of us were here for Teapot Dome. So Watergate is the only available context.

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Rian06 Jul 2016 08:45

06 Jul 2016 09:33:18
By that absurd rationale, if we were both in our thirties we couldn't reference Watergate on the basis that we weren't around when it happened. Ridiculous.

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